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What a surprise! I bet this explains why he divorced from his first wife less than six months ago.
Btw, congratulations to them!
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07-20-2010, 08:50 AM
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I suppose the bride is protestant and the reliogious blessing was given by a protestant priest, am I right?
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07-20-2010, 01:35 PM
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07-20-2010, 01:37 PM
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Wow, surprise.
Was she the reason for the divorce?
Congratulations.
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07-20-2010, 01:38 PM
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Father Karl-Heinz Berger is Roman Catholic who serves several congregations in Sigmaringen.
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I suppose the bride is protestant and the reliogious blessing was given by a protestant priest, am I right?
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07-20-2010, 01:38 PM
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Karl-Friedrich and Alexandra were separated for several years.
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What a surprise! I bet this explains why he divorced from his first wife less than six months ago.
Btw, congratulations to them!
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07-20-2010, 01:41 PM
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Karl-Friedrich and Alexandra were separated for several years.
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Yeah but there's a difference between divorce and seperated. If he in the time he was seperated, he found this woman, that's why he asked for a divorce six months ago.
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07-20-2010, 03:20 PM
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Father Karl-Heinz Berger is Roman Catholic who serves several congregations in Sigmaringen.
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It's catholicism different in Germany from Italy, where I live, or it's different just for princes? A catholic blessing for remarried divorcees sounds very new and incoherent to me!
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07-20-2010, 07:30 PM
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Maybe there was an annulment? Or maybe it's just that some priests don't follow the rules too closely?
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07-21-2010, 06:52 AM
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07-21-2010, 12:49 PM
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Countess Alexandra zu Castell-Rudenhausen is Georg Friedrich's aunt, the wife of his uncle Count Rupert, isn't she?
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07-21-2010, 12:55 PM
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The divorce would have been in the works for some time.
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Yeah but there's a difference between divorce and seperated. If he in the time he was seperated, he found this woman, that's why he asked for a divorce six months ago.
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07-21-2010, 12:57 PM
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the marriage was not annuled. The priest blessed the civil marriage.
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Maybe there was an annulment? Or maybe it's just that some priests don't follow the rules too closely?
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07-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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Probably not. As I said earlier, Karl-friedrich and Alexandra had been living apart for some years.
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Wow, surprise.
Was she the reason for the divorce?
Congratulations.
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07-21-2010, 05:39 PM
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Countess Alexandra zu Castell-Rudenhausen is Georg Friedrich's aunt, the wife of his uncle Count Rupert, isn't she?
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I think she is, at least Rupert is married to a woman called Alexandra (née von Unger). Not sure when they got married, I guess around 2004/05 (?). Actually he was already married to a woman called Alexandra before (née Baroness of Werthern), does someone know when they divorced?
Countess Alexandra seems to be a good friend of either the groom or the bride because she was one of the witnesses to the marriage.
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I read the wikipedia articel about Karl and was quite suprised that he was divorced, had a relationship to a teacher, and married Katharina this month. 
I thought, what? Did I missed anything? Yes :)
Congratulations!
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08-31-2010, 12:57 PM
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Are the Sigmaringens senior to the Imperial (Brandenburg) Hohenzollerns, and thus, is the head of the house of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen the head of the entire house of Hohenzollern?
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08-31-2010, 07:15 PM
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Which line is senior is something of an unknown but it's generally accepted that the Swabian branch (the Princely Hohenzollerns) is senior.
The two sons of Count Friedrich III of Zollern (died < 1204) divided the possessions of their father and mother; Konrad, possibly the younger, taking the Burggravate of Nuremberg and becoming the ancestor of the Protestant Royal House of Prussia and Friedrich IV retaining the county of Zollern in Swabia and becoming the ancestor of the Catholic Princely line.
The House Order of Hohenzollern was instituted by the Princely branches of Hechingen and Sigmaringen and later adopted by the Prussian branch.
The Head of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern is Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia; the Head of the Princely House of Hohenzollern is Prince Friedrich Wilhelm of Hohenzollern. I don't think either claims to be the "Head of the Hohenzollerns".
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So, if there is no evidence that Friedrich IV was the elder son of Friedrich III, why his descendants name their branch senior? Why the fact that he inherited the most important family title of Zollern does not prove he was elder?
I think, that if members of the Swabian branch use the titles of Princes and Princesses of Hohenzollern is sign of their seniority over the Prussian Hohenzollerns. The house's name is Hohenzollern and its head uses the title of Prince of Hohenzollern, it makes sense...
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09-01-2010, 07:46 PM
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Yes, as I said "it's generally accepted that the Swabian branch (the Princely Hohenzollerns) is senior."
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