Prince Georg Friedrich (1976- ) Head of the Royal House of Prussia (2003-Aug 2011)


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One reason for him not being married yet might be the fact that he is under pressure to marry a noble woman. Because in case he marries a commoner he will probably get in trouble with his uncles who were disinherited by house-law because of them all being married to commoners. As far as I know his uncle Friedrich Wilhelm tried to appeal the judgement for years but didn´t succeed. So if Georg Friedrich himself marries a commoner he will lose a lot of money, share it with his uncles or even lose his position as head of the Hohenzollern family.
 
If I remember correctly he once said in an interview jokingly that he could always change the rules because he is the boss but I guess he would never do that due to the reasons you said.
 
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I have to correct myself: The pictures of the prince in front of the farmhouse where made on the island Plön, called Prinzeninsel. It was a residence of the emperial family, where the emperor's sons worked and lived like farmers. Read more under:
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Thank you very much for this pictures Saschana. If you have more, you are welcome !
Here is a another picture of Cornelie: ( just scroll down ):

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Hello all together :wave: I just recently became interested in royalty and especially in German royalty and I was wondering if someone knows on what term the Prince of Prussia and other royal families are :ermm: I've seen pictures of him attending the wedding of Fürst Alexander zu Schaumburg-Lippe and as well pictures of him with members of the House of Hanover (especially Ernst-August, Georg Friedrich even attended the Red Cross Ball in Monaco). Does someone know if he has especially good relations with those two and how his relation with other German royalty is?! I was wondering about him and Ernst-August, I would have expected that someone of the House of Hanover wouldn't be on very good terms with someone from Prussia because of what happend in 1886...

Thanks a lot for your answers :flowers:
 
It happened in 1855 and not 20 years later but the realtions between the Houses of Hannover and Prussia are reconciled since the Wedding of Prince Ernst August (the grandfather of the present Head of the House) with Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia in 1913.
As for Georg Friedrichs relations to other Houses i don't know but he attends most high profile Weddings in german Houses.
 
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Genealogy of the House of Prussia

Friedrich I. King in Prussia married Sophie Charlotte of Hanover

Their son King Friedrich Wilhelm I in Prussia married Sophie Dorothea of Hanover.

Their son was Friedrich II. King of Prussia ( the great ) had no children ( married to Elisabeth of Braunschweig-Bevern ) , so his nephew became heir: ( His nephew was the son of his brother August and his wife Luise of Braunschweig – Wolfenbüttel)

King Friedrich Wilhelm II. married 4 times: 1. Elisabeth of Braunschweig –Wolfenbüttel ( divorced after one girl) and then 2. Friederike – Luise of Hessen – Darmstadt. Marriages 3. and 4. were Mesalliances

Their son King Friedrich Wilhelm III. married the famous Luise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz ( Queen Luise). Her mother was the sister of Friederike – Luise of Hessen- Darmstadt. So she married her cousin first grade actually. Just two weeks after her marriage married Friedrichs younger brother Louis Luises younger sister Friederike.

Their son King Friedrich Wilhelm IV. married Elisabeth of Bavaria, but he was crazy, so that his brother became King after years ( he had no children)

Now we have Wilhelm I. King of Prussia and Emperor of Germany married to Auguste von Sachsen – Weimar ( unhappy marriage, just two children, he had many other women)

Their son Friedrich Wilhelm II. became King of Prussia and Emperor of Germany for just nine month, because he had cancer. 1888 was the year of three emperors.
He was married to Princess Royal, Victoria of England ( child of Queen Victoria and Albert).

Princess Victorias sister married the Grand- Duke of Hessen- Darmstadt, her brother King Edward Alexandra of Denmark ( which caused trouble, because Prussia and Denmark were in war about Schleswig-Holstein). Her brother Alfred married Maria of Russia, her sister Helena Christian of Schleswig- Holstein –Sonderburg- Augustenburg……

Alice daughter Alix married the last Russian Zar.

Freidrich Wilhelms and Victorias son Wilhelm II. King of Prussia and Emperor of Germany married Auguste Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg ( called Dona)

Wilhelms II. sister Charlotte married the Duke of Sachsen-Meinigen, his bother Heinrich Irene of Hessen-Darmstadt, his sister Victoria the Prince of Schaumburg –Lippe, his sister Sophie the King Konstantin I. of Greece and his sister Margarethe the Count of Hessen-Kassel.

Wilhelms II. had 6 sond and 1 daugther:

Crownprince Wilhelm to Cecilie Duchess of Mecklenburg



Victoria Luise married Ernst-August Duke of Cumberland. Prussia had beaten the Kingdom of Hanover, so that the former Kings descendants were not able to claim the throne of Hanover. So they had to call themselves as Duke of Cumberland. When the man, who should have been Crownprince of Hanover, married the emperors daughter, “war” was over. Ernst August could return from the exile in Austria ( his father “King of Hanover” stayed there) and he became the Duke of Braunschweig –Lüneburg. Their grandson Ernst August V is now married to Caroline of Monaco.

The Welfen where Dukes of Braunschweig and Wolfenbüttel and Lüneburg ( rich German cities). Later they became Kings of England for a while and the Kings of Hanover till they where beaten by Prussia/ their line on the british throne died out.
The emperor/ King of Prussia did not give Ernst August the title of a King when marring, but the families old title of the Duke of B.-L.
They could call themselves Dukes of Cumberland, due to the fact they were England’s Kings: please read the Wikipedia article cause my explanations to the Welfen are rather short and not 1000 % complete.

The Crownprince oldest son Wilhelm married of Salviati, which was a Mesalliance. So his younger brother became the descendant of the family of Prussia.( He died anyway in war)

Louis – Ferdinand married Kira Grandduchess of Russia ( niece of the last Zar)

They had 4 sons and 3 daughters.

Friedrich: married middle classs
Michael: married middle class
Marie Cecilie : married the Duke of Oldenburg, became divorced in 1989, her sister in law Donata married her ex-husband
Kira married Thomas Frank Liepsner: Their daughter married the
Louis- Ferdinand jr. married Countess Donata of Castell- Rhüdenhausen ( daugther of the Prince of Castell – Rhüdenhausen): equal marriage
Christian Sigismund married Nina countess of Reventlow
Xenia married middle class


Georg Friedrich is the son of Louis Ferdinand jr and Donata.
 
Genealogy of the House of Prussia

Friedrich I. King in Prussia married Sophie Charlotte of Hanover

Their son King Friedrich Wilhelm I in Prussia married Sophie Dorothea of Hanover.

Their son was Friedrich II. King of Prussia ( the great ) had no children ( married to Elisabeth of Braunschweig-Bevern ) , so his nephew became heir: ( His nephew was the son of his brother August and his wife Luise of Braunschweig – Wolfenbüttel)

King Friedrich Wilhelm II. married 4 times: 1. Elisabeth of Braunschweig –Wolfenbüttel ( divorced after one girl) and then 2. Friederike – Luise of Hessen – Darmstadt. Marriages 3. and 4. were Mesalliances

Their son King Friedrich Wilhelm III. married the famous Luise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz ( Queen Luise). Her mother was the sister of Friederike – Luise of Hessen- Darmstadt. So she married her cousin first grade actually. Just two weeks after her marriage married Friedrichs younger brother Louis Luises younger sister Friederike.


Friedrich Wilhelm II and his frist wife Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick where also cousin as her mother was Charlotte of Prussia, a sister of Friedrich Wihelm's father. The daughter from this marriage Friederike married Frederick, Duke of York, secon son of George III.
Friedrich Wilhelm II. and his wife Luise where not cousins as Queen Friederike and Luise mother where not sister but cousins (their fathers where brothers)
 
Prince Georg-Friedrich sells the "Wümmehof" , the old farmhouse of the Prussians next to Bremen with an estate of nearly 10000 m².

Der Landsitz der Hohenzollern Wümmehof steht zum Verkauf - Bremen - Bremen - Bild.de
Engel & Völkers Exposé | 1104314 - Einzigartiges Baugrundstück am Wümmefluss ( Deutschland, Bremen, Bremen, Borgfeld )

This is the house of his beloved late grandfather Prince Louis Ferdinand, the house where Georg spend half of his childhood and his father, aunts and uncles grew up.
http://www.iblbildarkiv.net/fotoweb...47DB33BCC8AF80293EFDA1F072AB4D263CA8913A01AE8

Furthermore his uncle Christian ( blind, helped him with the Prussian/ Hohenzollern business until he was 30 years old by his grandfathers last will) and his aunt Nina lived there until to now.

He kicks them out !!!!!

I think he reallly...REALLY needs money. Poor Georg. This is a very sad story.

And I'm worrying about Christian - he is old and blind and now he has to move from the house where he has also spend a big part of his life.

The House belongs to the Prussians since 1945.



In what firm is he actually working or what job does he do ????

This is not mentioned on page 1 - may be we need an update ???
 
What does Wummehof mean?
Also, it does not look like a big house. How on earth did Louis Ferdinand raise 7 children there?
 
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Wümme is a river in Germany next to Bremen and "hof" means farm or farmhouse.

The house looks small from the frontside, but it's large from the side ( know what I mean ??). You just see a small part of the house on the picture. there is also another small house on the estate ( a gatehouse / house for staff).
 
When the family settled at Wummehof in 1945 was it just the family or did they bring staff and servants? Were they able to secure many of their personal items from their homes in West Prussia, Silesia, and Brandenburg?
 
I would really like to know why they are selling Wümmehof :ermm: In another article I read that the only comments Prince Christian wants to make are "No comment" and when answering the question if he would stay in Bremen anyway "I won't say anything, I'll just get in trouble", whatever that means...

Like Seraphine said maybe they really need money. I mean every member of the family still gets a small apanage even if, according to some sources, it isn't enough to live just from the apanage. But what are they making money with? I think the only significant property (in the way significant that they can make money with it) is Burg Hohenzollern and I guess that it is more like a +/- 0-business in the end because it is very expensive to pay all the costs for the maintenannce and the employees. There is a reason why a lot of German royal familys started a trust which their properties belong to.
Another reason could be that they (whoever that is ;)) think that they don't need Wümmehof anymore. According to the articles the only ones who are still living there are Christian and his wife and according to the TAZ they are the only ones that still live near Bremen. A couple of years ago the staff that manages the properties moved from Wümmehof to Berlin.

I just hope that it won't be too hard for Prince Christian to move out because he spend almost his whole life there :)
 
Were they able to secure many of their personal items from their homes in West Prussia, Silesia, and Brandenburg?

I don't how much they were able to secure after 1945 but all their belongings were already split up after 1918 between the House of Preußen and the then German state. I just know a little about the art and if I remember correctly that there was a museum in Schloss Monbijou (the castle belonged to the state while the art that was presented still belonged to the Hohenzollern). During WW2 most of the things were evacuated but some of it was destroyed anyway and other parts went to the Soviet Union. Some of it got back to museum in the former GDR and now belongs to the Stiftung Preußischer Kulturbesitz (Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation) which belongs to 25% to the German states of Berlin and Brandenburg and 75% to the German state.
Most of the things that are still owned by the family are lend to museums and castles owned by the state. Additionally there are touring exhibitions and I've once heard that the family wants to open a Hohenzollern Museum.
 
The TAZ article is here: Adel: Bremen ohne Prinz - taz.de

Taz is a german daily newspaper, which is politically rather left orientated ( anti monarchie, anti kapitalism, pro socialism).

(If someone wants a full translation, ask me)

The article is written ironically and not Pro Georg Friedrich. ( They don't like him, because he is young, royal, and not the first in ther heritage line - for them Mesalliance don't exist, because they don't "believe" in royal stuff like equal marriage)( for them an heritage should be divided in equal parts and a big part of taxes to the state )

They also write, that
1) all stuff is in Berlin now
2) only the two live there and the house is quite big ( a little too bit big for two person - could be a resaon for Georg to say "leave", but doe to the fact that Christian didn't say " we move alternatively to city XYZ, it looks like a hard kick out)
3) Georg was head of the house but not boss until his 30 th birthday. Until his 30 th birthday Prince Christian was responsible for Prussian / Hohenzollern business and I guess also for money. I am dead sure that Georg always had to ASK, although he is the head ( so he had more duty than rights the first 12 years of headship. Now this could be a little revenge ???? ).The Taz doesn't write that exactly, but they make insinuations.

No one knows where they go and Christian seems to be banned to speak ( what worries me somehow)

Georgie, what is going on ??? May be we'll never know what disturbed the family peace ( I guess the same rumors and arguments, injuries etc like in every family....)

I think he needs a nice wife ( with money ) :)))))
 
I don't how much they were able to secure after 1945 but all their belongings were already split up after 1918 between the House of Preußen and the then German state. I just know a little about the art and if I remember correctly that there was a museum in Schloss Monbijou (the castle belonged to the state while the art that was presented still belonged to the Hohenzollern). During WW2 most of the things were evacuated but some of it was destroyed anyway and other parts went to the Soviet Union. Some of it got back to museum in the former GDR and now belongs to the Stiftung Preußischer Kulturbesitz (Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation) which belongs to 25% to the German states of Berlin and Brandenburg and 75% to the German state.
Most of the things that are still owned by the family are lend to museums and castles owned by the state. Additionally there are touring exhibitions and I've once heard that the family wants to open a Hohenzollern Museum.

But until 1945 the still owned Cecilienhof Castle in Potsdam and Oels Castle in Silesia which Crown prince Wilhelm and his Family used as their Reisdencees. And they also Huis Doorn where a lot of Artworks still are.
 
But until 1945 the still owned Cecilienhof Castle in Potsdam and Oels Castle in Silesia which Crown prince Wilhelm and his Family used as their Reisdencees. And they also Huis Doorn where a lot of Artworks still are.

Oh yeah, that's true :) Didn't mean to implicate that they lost all their castles after 1918, they lost most of the real famous ones like the Berliner Stadtschloss, Sanssouci and Charlottenburg but they also kept lesser knowns like Schloss Rheinsberg (100km from Berlin) and also Schloss Lindstedt, I think. But of course lost them after 1945. Is there actually a castle (apart from Burg Hohenzollern) that belongs to the family (or belonged) in (after 1945) West-Germany?
 
If I recall correctly, Louis Ferdinand built a house in Berlin called Villa Monbijou after the war so that the family would have a presence there. Does the family still own it? Anyone have any pictures?

If I recall correctly, the agreement between Prussia and the Hohenzollern family after the end of the monarchy granted the Crown Prince and Princess the right to live in Schloss Cecilienhof in Potsdam and in the Altes Schloss* in Berlin for the rest of their lives. Since the Crown Prince and Crown Princess are both dead, I don't think the currently Hohenzollerns have any claim on any of their former palaces in Potsdam and Berlin, do they? But I seem to recall that part of the family's business office is housed in one of the palaces in Potsdam. Is this correct?



*or was it the Crown Prince's Palace?
 
If I recall correctly, Louis Ferdinand built a house in Berlin called Villa Monbijou after the war so that the family would have a presence there. Does the family still own it?

I don't know who is the owner of Villa Mombijou is, it's either Prince Georg himself or Prince Friedrich Wilhelm but the later one lived or still lives there. A few years back there was a inheritance dispute about the furniture, art etc inside the villa, pretty sure it wasn't about the villa itself. It was all part of the big dispute who is the rightful heir.

Since the Crown Prince and Crown Princess are both dead, I don't think the currently Hohenzollerns have any claim on any of their former palaces in Potsdam and Berlin, do they?

No, all the castles/properties are owned by the Foundation Palaces and Parks of Berlin and Brandenburg. They either became property of the state after WWI or WWII.

But I seem to recall that part of the family's business office is housed in one of the palaces in Potsdam. Is this correct?

I had a look at the contact address on their homepage and it says Tristanstraße, which is in Berlin-Zehlendorf, one of the richest parts near Wannsee but I don't think there is a palace there :ermm:. While the Foundation Palaces and Parks of Berlin and Brandenburg is situated in Potsdam but I can't find anywhere if they are housed in a palace.
 
Well... There isn't a lot to find out about Villa Monbijou but according to this article it has ten rooms. It was build in 1962, couldn't find a picture.
 
I accidentially found out where Georg Friedrich works:

engage AG : unternehmen : Team

Text: Georg Friedrich Prinz von Preussen studied economics at the university of Freiberg with focus on Business Informatics and innovation management.Since 1994 her is the head of the family business with registered office in Berlin. He worked for the "Prince of Castell bank" ( his mother was born Castell-Rhüdenhasuen), the Grünenthal limited corp. in Ecuador and afterwards he worked for Maecenata Management GmbH, where he did some management in the department for consultation and administration of foundation, associations and non commercial limited corporations. Now he works as Venture Manager for engage AG in Karlsruhe ( in south west Germany not so far away from Hechingen ( look it up on Google maps)).

So he seems to live in Karlsruhe now and not in Berlin anymore, which means that he commuting between Berlin ( where Prussian/ Hohenzollern management is) and Karsruhe and Hechingen and at least Oldenburg, where his mother lives and Lübeck, where his sister lives. Now I can understand, why he sells Wümmehof....too much chaos...no one can keep the focus on all that 100 %.
 
Where do the Prussian royals live.. im new here and dont know much about this family.. i thought Prussia was a country that doesnt exist anymore...
 
Indeed Prussia (today parts of Germany, Poland, Russia, Lithuania, Danmark, Belgium, Netherlands & Czech Republik) doesn't exist anymore to be exact it doesn't exist anymore since the abolishment of monarchy in Germany after WWI. The Prussian Kings were also German emperors since 1871. The are originally from Swabia (Southern Germany) so they still own parts of a castle there but afaik nobody lives there.
Instead they all live all over Germany, quite some of them in or around Berlin, after WWII the family of Louis Ferdinand went to live near Bremen but they are now selling the Wümmehof (the house they lived in) and it seems like not a lot of people are living in Bremen anymore. The head of the house seems to live (or at least work) in Karlsruhe.
 
The prince is a likeable guy and cute as well.He has the power to change the house rules being he is the head of it I don't think he wants to get away from traditon. He is pressured to marry a woman of royal or noble birth there is no exception has been mention by other members in this forum and supply a couple of children one would be heir and the others are there for security puropses.
 
Georg Friedrich has various legal bills due to the lawsuits from Onkel Friedrich Wilhelm. Christian Sigismund has known for some time that Wummehof would be sold. The appanage was limited to Louis Ferdinand's surviving children, but when Friedrich Wilhelm and Michael sued, they apparently lost their allowance (although, under German law, they received something from their father's estate.) Louis Ferdinand's surviving sons have done nothing to find work on their own - and establish their own income. They were enabled by dad, but the party was over when Georg Friedrich inherited.
I would really like to know why they are selling Wümmehof :ermm: In another article I read that the only comments Prince Christian wants to make are "No comment" and when answering the question if he would stay in Bremen anyway "I won't say anything, I'll just get in trouble", whatever that means...

Like Seraphine said maybe they really need money. I mean every member of the family still gets a small apanage even if, according to some sources, it isn't enough to live just from the apanage. But what are they making money with? I think the only significant property (in the way significant that they can make money with it) is Burg Hohenzollern and I guess that it is more like a +/- 0-business in the end because it is very expensive to pay all the costs for the maintenannce and the employees. There is a reason why a lot of German royal familys started a trust which their properties belong to.
Another reason could be that they (whoever that is ;)) think that they don't need Wümmehof anymore. According to the articles the only ones who are still living there are Christian and his wife and according to the TAZ they are the only ones that still live near Bremen. A couple of years ago the staff that manages the properties moved from Wümmehof to Berlin.

I just hope that it won't be too hard for Prince Christian to move out because he spend almost his whole life there :)
 
Georg Friedrich has various legal bills due to the lawsuits from Onkel Friedrich Wilhelm. Christian Sigismund has known for some time that Wummehof would be sold. The appanage was limited to Louis Ferdinand's surviving children, but when Friedrich Wilhelm and Michael sued, they apparently lost their allowance (although, under German law, they received something from their father's estate.) Louis Ferdinand's surviving sons have done nothing to find work on their own - and establish their own income. They were enabled by dad, but the party was over when Georg Friedrich inherited.

Georg has still bills due to all this lawsuits ???? How much is it ? When will this conflict ever end ? ??? :bang:
Poor Georg. It guess it is not easy for him to be the boss. :sad:

They all say, he has a lot of money, but it doesn't seem so. It rather looks like being the boss means a lot of work and abdication than power and wealthy living....
 
This is all for because an Imperial Highness ranked ahead of a Royal Highness simply because an emperor ranked above a king. In some monarchies, specifically Russia and Austria, imperial issue also used titles higher than prince grand duke and archduke, respectively. I think the problem with many people is that they believe that if you fall you should stay down. Royals don't believe the same.
 
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