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Old 05-05-2011, 07:01 PM
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Restoration of the Monarchy in Brazil

In 1992 there were officialy 17% of the population in favour of Monarchy.How's the situation now?
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:37 PM
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There is not enough support and I doubt there will ever be in spite of the Imperial family here in Brazil has never been hated, quite the contrary. Brazil has finally started to make peace with its history and now, more than the affection people have had for King D. João VI, D. Pedro I and D. Pedro II, these monarchs have started to get some respect as well, thanks to new studies, books and reevaluation of ou historiry in recent years. But no, I don't think there is ever going to be another King in Brazil or in the Americas.
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A king maybe not but an emperor?
The monarchists are strong enough?
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:56 AM
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In 1992 there were officialy 17% of the population in favour of Monarchy.
May I inquire where did you get this poll's result, Cory?
Since HIH the Prince Bertrand of Orleans-Braganza said in one of his interviews they had 11%.
May I see some proof link, please?
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:38 AM
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A king maybe not but an emperor?
The monarchists are strong enough?
Let me rephrase: I don't think there will ever be a King (as we had when Brazil was a United Kingdom with Portugal and Algarves) or an Emperor (when Brazil became independent). Our goverment is not parlamentarist and I doubt the people would accept absolutism ever again. Brazil would have to change its constitution to accept first a head of state and a head o government. The monarchists don't even have a party here.
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I was wrong:Monarchy had only 12% in 1992.A new Constitution is not impossible with a real campaign of a serious monarchist association.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:23 PM
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I have some links here that might help to understand the 1993 referendum. Just one of them is is Portuguese:

1993 Brazilian Plebiscite

Brazil Won't Slip Back Into Monarchy - New York Times


Entre o parlamentarismo e a monarquia, o Brasil resolveu continuar presidencialista | Caça ao voto - VEJA.com

I also would like to add that monarchy supporters are now trying to register 3 or 4 parties to support a new referendum in 2013. I don't think they will succed. Brazil is doing very well nowadays and people try to stick with what is showing results.

Ah, I thougt you might find it interesting: The motto pro monarchy in 1993 was "Give your vote to the King"
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:08 PM
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Is it true that one of the main reasons of the failure of the 1993 referendum was that Prince Luiz Gastao (the claimant) and Prince Bertrand (his brother and successor) are generally considered to be too much conservative?
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No. The failure was not because of the Vassouras branch is "carola" (which means too much religious in a derrogatory way - as Princess Isabel was also called) and too much conservative. It was very well explained to the population that if monarchy was chosen it didn't mean that this or that claimant would immediatly be the king. The Congress or another referendum would choose the king/emperor. And, at that time, a rather charmant Prince, D. Joãozinho (as he is called -João Henrique D'Orléans e Bragança, Grandson of D. Pedro D'Órléans e Bragança, son of D. João Maria D'Orléans e Bragança of the Petrópolis branch) was much in vogue, giving interviews and so on. D. João Henrique was then young, modern, dashing, very well articulate and quite handsome; the perfect ambassador for monarchy.
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Don Antonio and Don Raphael are known by the people?
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Brazilian elite knows them all but the majority of the population is not very interested. They know they are princes but very little about dinastic matters. Of course they were all over the news when D. Pedro Luís de Orléans e Bragança passed away in the Air France 447 Flight crash in 2009.
I know there are other Brazilians at the Royal Forums and it would be nice of them to also give their opinion and correct any mistakes I might have made.
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What about the monarchist movement in Brazil?
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What about the monarchist movement in Brazil?
Here are some useful links, Cory
Movimento Pró Monarquia « Monarquia’s Weblog
REDE ACI | O Portal da monarquia na internet
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Old 05-07-2011, 12:59 PM
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Pro-Monarchy Political Parties trying to be registered, all of them support the Vassouras Branch (They have to achieve half a million registered participants to be officially recognized - so far, none of them has succeeded :
1) Partido da Real Democracia: Partido da Real Democracia - O Brasil tem Soluo Real !
2) PMPB - Partido Monárquico Parlamentarista Brasileiro: Partido Monarquista Parlamentarista Brasileiro - A nobreza deve ser resgatada! Monarquia! Ainda que tardia!
3) PMMB - Partido do Movimento Monarquista do Brasil
4) PCI - Partido da Construção Imperial: PCI - Partido da Construo Imperial - VAMOS CONSTRUIR UM GRANDE BRASIL !!

Official site (Vassouras Branch) of the Monarchy in Brazil: Casa Imperial do Brasil - Home
The Brazilian Monarchy - Projeto Pr-Monarquia do Baronato de Fulwood e Dirleton -INFO IN ENGLISH
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Roughly how much support does each have? If they were to combine and form one monarchist party would that have any hope of being recognised?
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Don Luis Gastao visits the different parts of the country in order to be known by the people?
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If he does, it does not make the headlines.
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It means the monarchists are not very well organised?
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It means there is no PR work, no leadership and no money (from the royal family or from wealthy supporters). And most of all, no interest from the great majority of the population.
I guess that the more time passes by, the lesser chances monarchy has in Brazil.
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Don Antonio seems to be a very intelligent person.He could become a very good symbol of the royal revival.
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