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Old 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM
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What about Prince Pedro's daughter Maria da Gloria? Is she doing things for the family? I know she is living in Spain with her second husband and two youngest children, but does she do anything on behalf of the family?
HRH Princess Maria da Glória, Duchess of Sergobe isn't a member of the Imperial Family, because her grandfather, Prince Pedro de Alcântara, renounced his Dynastic rights, in his name and in name of all his descendents.

None of Prince Pedro de Alcântara's descendents works on behalf of the Imperial House.

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I know of d. Luiz's condition, and it is understandable :) d. Bertrand does more bad then it is worth, and d. Antônio might go to meetings and other events but that simply isnt enough. They dont do any Lectures to Universities (except d. Bertrand, who ends up making more enemies then allies when he does, just look at what happened at PUC...) nor do they appear doing any volutneer work for people that need it (ok, d. Antonio is too old for that, but d. Rafael hasnt done any as far as I know, and the Princesses have only done one from what I've heard). We need more of these affirmative actions from our IF, and we need them to go to the different organizations of the Movement and tell them to start working Together.
The problem is that they don't receive media coverage.

Prince Antônio is always visiting schools and universities, he even visited a detention center (accompanied by Prince Rafael). Princess Cristina works with charities for mentally disabled children. Sometimes, the Goverment invetes Prince Antônio and Princess Cristina to represent the Imperial Family at official events.

Prince Rafael is starting to work for the Imperial Family, but he also has his work for Ambev. And we have to undestand his situation: the poor guy only become a direct heir to the Throne at the age of 24, after his brother's death.

Princess Amélia is now living and working in Spain, so she's not representing the Imperial Family anymore (I hope she return married with a Prince). Princess Maria Gabriela only finished college last year, but she has already accompanied her father to an official event, and was the highest ranking female royal at last year Monarchical Meeting.

Princess Isabel has worked for the Red Cross (she served as the President of the Brazilian Red Cross), and she's still envolved with many charities.

And we also have the Princess of Ligne, who is envolved with charities, but in Belgium.

The Imperial Family does a lot of things, but they don't receive any coverage.

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d. Bertrand does more bad then it is worth.
Oh, please, Prince Bertrand isn't that bad.

He's a brilliant man, and he's very in touch with the brazilian reality. And His Imperial and Royal Highness know what to do in order to solve our problems.

Did you ever saw this interview?

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HRH Princess Maria da Glória, Duchess of Sergobe isn't a member of the Imperial Family, because her grandfather, Prince Pedro de Alcântara, renounced his Dynastic rights, in his name and in name of all his descendents.

None of Prince Pedro de Alcântara's descendents works on behalf of the Imperial House.
Why is this?
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:30 PM
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Sorry, I didn't understand your question.
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Why did he renounce his dynastic rights? Why do his children not work on behalf of the imperial family?
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In order to marry a woman of low rank. A Brazilian Prince or Princess have to marry equally, in order to keep his/her succession rights. It's a rule established by Princess Isabel, Head of the Imperial House, in 1908, still in force today.

For Prince Pedro de Alcântara's descendentd, as they aren't members of the Imperial Family, the didn't work on behalf of the Head of the Imperial House. They live a quiet life, appearing only at some events.
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Interesting as I thought Maria da Gloria's mother was a princess (one of a line of nine straight women who married directly into their own house). I guess that must be wrong?
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Yes, but her grandfather married a "mere" Countess which the Brazilian Imperial Family, already living in exile, did not feel was quite up to snuff so he renounced his rights to the non existent Brazilian throne.

Through her mother she does descend from a long line of Bourbon princesses.
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Interesting as I thought Maria da Gloria's mother was a princess (one of a line of nine straight women who married directly into their own house). I guess that must be wrong?
Oh, yes, her mother was Princess Maria de la Esperanza of the Two-Sicilies (1914-2005).

But Princess Maria Cristina of Orleans-Braganza's paternal grandmother was Countess Elisabeth Dobržensky of Dobrženicz (1875-1951).

As Princess Isabel ruled that Brazilian Princes and Princesses must marry equally in order to keep their dynastic rights, Prince Pedro de Alcântara had to renounce his rights before marry the Countess. None of his descendents are in line to succeed to the Brazilian Throne.
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On the 15th of June a new Meeting of the Brazilian Monarchists moderated by HRH Prince Dom Antonio and HRH Prince Dom Rafaerl de Braganza Orleans:

Monarquia Já: XXIII Encontro Monárquico e aniversário do Chefe da Casa Imperial do Brasil
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The XXIIIrd Meeting of the Brazilian Monarchists began in Rio de Janeiro under the leadership of HRH Prince Dom Antonio de Orleans Braganza:

Monarquia Já: XXIII Encontro Monárquico discute importantes temas ligados ao país
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A picture of HRH Prince Antônio of Brazil openning the event.
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...72144729_n.jpg

HRH Prince Rafael of Brazil with some of the Monarchists who attended the XXIII Monarchist Meeting, today, in Rio de Janeiro.
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...13253854_n.jpg
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17%, is not any kind of a number you would publish. It is a joke. I think there are very few that want this. Pay for people who cut ribbons and do nothing.
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17%, is not any kind of a number you would publish. It is a joke. I think there are very few that want this.
In the last Referendum, Monarchy received 13% of the votes, after 99 years of censorship, because being a Monarchist was illegal.

Today, we (the Monarchists) are 21% of the population, and we are getting strong, while the Republic seems to be collapsing. Today, President Rouseff was booed during the openning the Confederations Cup.

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After more than a century from the fall of Monarchy 21% is a very good number indeed.

Surely it is important even more Brazilians know better HRH Prince Dom Rafael de Orleans Braganza.
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21% is also an increase, although a slow one.
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Who conducted the poll that arrived at the 21%? When was it conducted and how large was the sample?
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:31 AM
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From left to right: Prof. Tjader, HRH Prince Rafael of Brazil, HIRH the Prince Imperial of Brazil, HRH Prince Antônio of Brazil, HRH Princess Cristina of Brazil and Dr. José Carlos Sepúlveda. The picture was taken during the XXIII Monarchist Meeting, in Rio de Janeiro, on June 15:

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...27613105_n.jpg

HIRH Prince Bertrand, Prince Imperial of Brazil, chating with some Monarchists who attended the event:

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...14466623_n.jpg

HRH Princess Cristina of Brazil, Mrs. Rita de Sá Freire and HRH Prince Antônio of Brazil:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A9Tc-wVoo4...51775328_n.jpg

Prince Rafael speaking, whatched by his uncle, Prince Bertrand (at his left side) and his parents Princess Cristina and Prince Antônio (in the first row):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FxqoeDxAgl...06437619_n.jpg

Prince Antônio speaking:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_URO-93btM...50339989_n.jpg

The certificate that participants received, celebrating the 75th birthday of HIRH Prince Luiz, Head of the Imperial House of Brazil.

The Mass, held on June 16, in celebration of Prince Luiz's birthday:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Js98IlCCbo...38061806_n.jpg

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The lunch, held after the Mass:

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Old 06-17-2013, 10:35 AM
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Dr. Sepúlveda giving his lecture "From the Monarchical Organicity to the Republican Authoritarism", during the XXIII Monarchist Meeting:

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Who conducted the poll that arrived at the 21%?
It was Instituto Brasil Imperial (Institute Imperial Brazil), a very important Monarchist organization.

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A couple of years ago.

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and how large was the sample?
As IBI has branches all over the country, I believe it was a large sample. But it's known that the majority of the Monarchists are in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, with a significant number also in Brasília.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:57 AM
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Last year, O Globo, the Brazilian newspaper with the largest circulation, published the following article:

"A new breath for Monarchy"

Fôlego jovem para monarquia - Amanhã no Globo: O Globo

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"While many people struggle to found a new party, there are those who dream with a far more dramatic change: changing the political system in Brazil. In Internet, groups who preach a return of the Monarchy are proliferating. And is deceived those who thinks that behind those groups are a bunch of nostalgic old men who have learned how to use a computer. Many of the XXI century Monarchists are less than 30 years old. It is the case of Lucas Suzigan, a 23 years old student of History of the Universty of São Paulo, who lives in Assisi, São Paulo.

— We have to put an end in the prejudice who says that Monarchy is something authoritativ, from the past. I believe it is the most efficient system for Brazil, both for political and cultural purposes - sentences the student, who is part of the group Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy, whose Facebook account has already reached nearly four thousand members.

Lucas was just 4 years old when the country had a chance to return power to the Orleans-Braganza Family. In 1993, a referendum offered to the public the chance to choose between presidentialism and parliamentarism republican or monarchical. The return of the Imperial Family, however, was only supported by 13% of Brazilians."
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