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#41
09-28-2005, 06:12 AM
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are the children from the morganatic marriages also princes/princesses? Or are only the children of Christine de Ligne and Antonio of Orleans-Braganca entitled to this (they are the only ones in line of succession anyway).
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#42
12-10-2005, 03:41 PM
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The children from equal marriages (a prince who marry a princess or viceversa) are in line to the throne of Brazil, and are Prince(ss) of Brazil, Prince(ss) of Orleans-Braganza, with the style Imperial and Royal Highness and the honorary prefix Dom/Dona.
The children from unequal marriages are Prince(ss) of Orleans-Braganza, with the style Royal Highness and the honorary prefix Dom/Dona. Only the children of Dom Antonio and Dona Leonor are in line to the throne, the rest are all considered morganauts.
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#43
12-28-2005, 03:40 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up. Arw they referred to X de Brazil/ Prince X de Brazil in brazilian magazines? Or, like the others, as Prince X de Orleans-Braganca?
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#44
01-03-2006, 11:20 PM
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#45
01-09-2006, 05:41 AM
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Where does the (former) imperial live? Still in Petropolis or did they move somewhere else? Are they rich?
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#46
01-09-2006, 09:55 PM
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I'll do a more thorough research to see if I find something more on it.
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#47
01-10-2006, 08:27 PM
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thanks! I saw some lovely pictures of an estate in petropolis in the book of Isabelle of Paris (l'histoire de ma vie), so that was why I was wondering...
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#48
03-27-2006, 01:31 PM
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From: http://entretenimento.globo.com/Entr...5-5276,00.html (in Portuguese)
The Commoner Prince Dom João Henrique Maria Gabriel Gonzaga de Orleans e Bragança is the only child and heir of the prince dom João Maria, who died last year and of princess Fátima Chirine, who died in 1990. Great-great-grandson of dom Pedro II and great-grandson of princess Isabel, the noble, who chose a low-profile life and won the nickname of João Prince. He doesn't get involved in political subjects and doesn't have any official engagements. Two weeks ago he went through thousands of miles through the inner Piauí, where he took many pictures with his new hasselblad (the camera that is the dream of any professional photographer). The 800+ pictures will be published in a book dedicated to the State of Piauí. The book shall be published in May. João became one of the most popular characters in the Brazilian Royal Family. At 51, he enjoys surfing with his 19 year old son, likes "cachaça" and plays the tambourine. "I can't give up on this. It's an addiction," says, referring to the instrument. Charming, dom João talks so enthusiastically about de Brazilian diversity that he's able to convince the high society laduies that cities like Juazeiro do Norte are more interesting than the South of France. “I've learned to appreaciate what is worth. When I was a kid, my friends would go to Disney and I would go camping in remote locations with my father”, he says with pride. In this pictorial, João shows exclusively each phase of his career as a photographer - which he insist to call a hobby. From the pictures in Xingu on 1978 to the cowboys in the interior of Brazil in 2006. To see some of the pictures taken by the Prince, go here: http://entretenimento.globo.com/Entr...1-5276,00.html
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#49
03-28-2006, 07:22 AM
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 Morganauts! That great description got my mind to imagine all the unequal marriages we discuss in here bundled up into a space trip voyage!Last edited by Toledo; 03-28-2006 at 07:30 AM.
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#50
08-26-2006, 03:53 PM
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I have a question that can seem without pertinence, because I'm Brazilian, but if Brazil went a monarchy still today, who would the emperor be?
And Crown Prince or Crown Princess
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#51
08-26-2006, 04:25 PM
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08-26-2006, 05:31 PM
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The Prince Imperial, title reserved to the heir to the throne, would be Prince Luiz's brother Prince Bertrand of Orléans-Braganza The third in line is Prince Antonio of Orléans-Braganza, followed by his children: 4th. Prince Pedro Luís of Orléans-Braganza (1983) 5th. Prince Rafael (1986) 6th. Princess Amélia (1984) 7th. Princess Maria Gabriela Fernanda (1989)
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#53
08-26-2006, 05:40 PM
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Dom Antônio's wife, Princess Christine de Ligne, is a first cousin to the Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg.
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#54
08-26-2006, 05:46 PM
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"Every novel is an equal collaboration between the writer and the reader, and it is the only place in the world where two strangers can meet on terms of absolute intimacy. I have spent my life in conversations with people I have never seen, with people I will never know, and I hope to continue until the day I stop breathing. It's the only job I've ever wanted." ~ Paul Auster
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#55
09-16-2006, 06:55 PM
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POSTCARD FROM BRAZIL
FAMILY TREE The head of the only genuine royal monarchy in North or South America is the fifty-two-year-old Brazilian prince, Dom João Henrique Maria Gabriel Gonzaga de Orleans e Bragança. He makes his living by developing tourist resorts and also by selling hearts of palm from his eight-hundred-acre palm-tree plantation; publishes books—eight so far—of his photographs of Brazil; heads environmental campaigns; and keeps his twenty-five hundred acres of rain forest untouched. http://www.newyorker.com/talk/conten...18ta_talk_ross
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#56
09-16-2006, 09:09 PM
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That was one great article you found there Benjamin! It also mentions the family relations between the Imperial House of Brazil and the Royal House of Egypt. We hardly heard anything on Princess Fawiza's daugther and I did not know it was such a nice love story between two princess of two different backgrounds. Here is the quote about Princess Fawiza's beautiful daugther:
"...The family moved back here in 1929, and my father served as a major in the Air Force. There is a beautiful story of my mother and father. She was an Egyptian princess, Fatma Chirine. My father met her in Cairo when, as a pilot, he was inaugurating a flight between Rio and Cairo. King Farouk bitterly forbade her to marry my father, so they ran away,” he said, giving a long laugh. He continued, “My sister, Princess Melekper Tousson, lives in Paris and works in the Quai d’Orsay. She called me today on the cell. She wants to know what your British journalist here at the festival, Christopher Hitchens, is saying about Lebanon...” Last edited by Toledo; 09-16-2006 at 09:16 PM.
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#57
10-03-2006, 06:37 AM
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How is the royal family of Brazil viewed by the people today(fascination, disdain, pride, etc)? There seem to be so many royals. I noticed in past posts there were mentions of one or two referendums to restore the monarchy and received a respectible response, although by no means a majority.
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