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Old 06-28-2004, 11:11 PM
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Why exactly did they get overthrown? Is it because they didn't agree with the British et al and they got rid of the Habsburg royal family?

If that is the reason, I don't think they should have lost their country etc. just because a big group of countries won a war against them.
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Old 06-30-2004, 04:43 AM
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They were involved in World War I and controllled a humungous empire consisting of Austria, Hungary, Czechoslavakia, and parts of the Balkans, Poland, Italy, and other Central European territories. When the began to lose the war, these separate territories began to seceed from the empire, causing a power struggle within Austria itself. When at last the war was over, the empire splintered, and as the people were up in arms against the Hapsburgs, they were removed from power. It was at that time that their enormous wealth of possessions was taken- they probably amounted to billions more than the wealth of the British royals. To be fair, the Hapsburgs had sparked World War I with their ambitions of conquering Serbia. That was one of the integral flaws with their empire, it was not a country and there were no ties of blood or allegiance, it was simply an imperial confederation of subordinate territories under the rule of an autocratic monarchy. That was one of the reasons why their own subjects hated the Hapsburgs so much.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:04 AM
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My basic feeling is, that by the time Franz Josef came along, the empire was already an outdated antique, and though the Emperor was a decent fellow, he was completely unable to govern his empire the way it needed to be governed at the turn of the 20th century. FJ had a firm, almost mystical belief in the powers of autocracy (much like the Tsars) and he was simply overwhelmed by the forces of nationalism and unrest that developed. I personally believe most of his subjects liked and admired him greatly, more than they actually did his Empress, Sissi. I think the Hapsburg Empire had by most means outlived its usefulness, and that was what contributed to its downfall. Just my opinion. :flower:
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in this photo, which is the name of the boy standing behind astrid, talking with maria christina?

here is a new photo of today's reception in honour of astrid and carl christian.
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:35 PM
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Marie Christine and Gabriella of Austria

they are the daughters of archduke carl christian of austria and princess marie astrid of luxembourg and sisters of christopher, imre and alexander. here are some pics i have found of them. gabriella is utterly cute and christine seems to be a really beautiful girl!

astrid, christine and gabriella

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-25.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-27.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-24.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-23.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-22.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-21.jpg

with their parents and brothers

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-20.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-19.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-17.jpg
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:54 PM
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in guillaume's 18th birthday (she is the one in the pink dress)


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they were celebrating their birthdays...

a pic of astrid and carl christian
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Old 07-09-2004, 04:31 AM
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*from netty's page*

Full name: Marie Christine Anne Astrid Zita Charlotte
Title: Archduchess of Austria (Her Imperial and Royal Highness)
Born: Brughmann Clinic, Brussels, Belgium, July 31st 1983

Parents: Carl Christian Archduke of Austria (1954) and 1982, Marie Astrid Princess of Luxembourg (1954)
Brothers: Imre (1985), Christoph (1988) and Alexander (1990)
Sister: Gabriella (1994)

Education and work: boarding school in England (-2001)
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who is this person? is he related to any of the Luxembourg royals?
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:50 AM
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Yes, he is the second child of Princess Marie-Astrid [Henri's elder sister] and her husband Archduke Carl-Christian of Austria.

And, I always thought that his name was pronounced "Imm-ray". I could of course be wrong, but that's my guess! :)
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HSH Princess Marie-Annunciata, HSH Princess Marie-Astrid, HSH Prince Joseph-Emmanuel, HRH Princess Marguerite and HSH Prince Nichlaus of Liechtenstein. Princess Marguerite is the daughter of GD Jean and GDss Josephine-Charlotte of Luxembourg.

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HIRH Archduchess Marie-Asdrid of Austria (nee Princess of Luxembourg) and her daughter HIRH Archduchess Marie-Christine of Austria.

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we see so amny royals on this picture! Among them HRH Prince Guillaume & Princess Sybilla of Luxembourg and HSH Furst Hans-Adam II and Furstin Marie-Aglae of Liechtenstein. The lady in white is HM Queen Fabiola of the Belgians. I also recognise HRH Prince Carlos of Bourbon-Parma (next to Pss Sybilla), HIRH Archduke Joachim of Austria, HIRH Archduchess Maria-Laura of Austria, Princess of Belgium (between Prince Joseph-Emmanuel of Liechtenstein and Princess Marie-Annunciata of Liechtenstein) Prince of Belgium and HSH Princess Isabelle of Liechtenstein (apart from the people I recognised above)

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HIRH Princess Sophie of Windisch-Graetz, nee Archduchess of Austria (granddaughter of the count of Kyburg who was a brother of Emperor Karl I), HRH the Princess of Naples, HRH the Prince of Napels.

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HIRH Archduchess Regina of Austria, nee Princess of Saxe-Meiningen, HIRH Archduke Gerog of Austria, HIRH Archduke Otto of Austria, HIRH Archduchess Regina of Austria.

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Old 10-06-2004, 09:27 AM
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1. HRH Princess Sybilla of Luxembourg and her son Prince Jean
2. HRH Dom Duarte of Portugal and his wife Princess Isabel

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the archdukes/archduchesses Fransesca (born Baroness Thyssen), Karl, Anna-Eugenia (born Pss of Aremberg), Felix, Karl-Ludwig, Yolande (born Princess de Ligne), ? , Margarita (born Princess of Italy (Aosta))

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hirh Archduchess Francesca, HIRH Archduke Karl with their youngest daughter.
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HSH Furstin Marie of Liechtenstein

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HIRH Archduke Carl-Christian and HIRH Archduchess Marie0Astrid of Austria with their children.
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