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Old 10-06-2004, 01:23 PM
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JimBob on the glittering royal events messageboard made a lst of all the royals which attended the ceremony:

Queen Fabiola of the Belgians
Prince Hans Adam & Princess Marie of Liechtenstein
Archduke Otto & Archduchess Regina of Austria
Archduke Karl & Archduchess Francesca of Austria
Archduke Ferdinand-Zvonimir of Austria
Archduchess Eleonore of Austria
Archduchess Gloria of Austria
Archduke Georg & Archduches Eilika of Austria
Archduke Carl Constantine of Austria
Archduchess Gabriela of Austria
Archduchess Margherita of Austria-Este
Archduke Lorenz & Archduchess Astrid of Austria-Este, Prince & Princess of Belgium
Archduke Amadeo of Austria-Este, Prince of Belgium
Archduchess Luisa-Maria of Austria-Este, Princess of Belgium
Archduke Felix of Austria
Archduke Carl Ludwig & Princess Yolande of Austria
Archduke Carl Christian & Archduchess Marie-Astrid of Austria
Archduke Imre of Austria
Archduke Christophe of Austria
Archduke Alexander of Austria
Archduches Marie-Christine of Austria
Archduchess Gabriella of Austria
Archduchess Constanza of Austria, Princess von Auersperg-Trautson & Prince Franz Josef, Prince von Auersperg-Trautson
Princess Ladislaya von Auersperg-Trautson
Prinzessin Maria Anna von Auersperg-Trautson
Archduke Rudolf & Archduchess Anna Gabriele of Austria
Archduke Carl Peter & Archduchess Alexandra of Austria
Archduchess Sophie of Austria, Princess zu Windisch-Graetz & Prince Hugo, Prince zu Windisch-Graetz
Archduke Michael & Archduchess Christiana of Austria
Father Paul von Habsburg (formerly Archduke Paul of Austria)
Prince Michael of Baden
Prince Max Emanuel of Bavaria, Duke in Bavaria
Princess Lea of Belgium
Prince Kubrat & Princess Carla of Bulgaria, Prince & Princess of Panagiúrishte
Dowager Princess Paula zu Fürstenberg
Crown Prince Vittorio Emanuele and Crown Princess Marina of Italy, Prince & Princess of Naples
Prince Nikolaus & Princess Margaretha of Liechtenstein
Prince Josef Emanuel of Liechtenstein
Princess Maria Annunciata of Liechtenstein
Princess Marie-Astrid of Liechtenstein
Prince Guillaume & Princess Sibilla of Luxembourg
Prince Jean de Nassau
Prince Moritz & Princess Lioba, Prince & Princess zu Oettingen-Oettingen und Oettingen-Wallerstein
Prince Carlos Hugo of Bourbon-Parma, Duke of Parma
Prince Carlos of Bourbon-Parma
Princess Carolina of Bourbon-Parma
Princess Françoise of Bourbon-Parma, Princess von Lobkowicz
Prince Charles-Henri von Lobkowicz
Duke & Duchess of Bragança
Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia
Princess Anastasia of Prussia, Princess zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg & Prince Alois-Konstantin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg
Princess Marie Luise of Prussia, Countess von Schönburg-Glauchau & Count Rudolf von Schönburg-Glauchau
Prince Alexander & Princess Gabriela, Prince & Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn
Prince Christian Peter zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn
Dowager Princess Benita of Schaumburg-Lippe
Princess Anne of Bourbon Two Sicilies, Duchess of Calabria
Prince Carlos & Princess Camilla of Bourbon Two Sicilies, Duke & Duchess of Calabria
Hereditary Duke Friedrich of Württemberg
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Old 10-17-2004, 02:31 PM
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Her mother wear her hair long when she was young and she was very attractive.

I have found two images Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg .The first dates from year 1962 (8 year old) where you can see a Marie-Astrid with more than shoulder length hair, the second from 1966 (12 year old) on which she wear her beautiful blond hair a little shorter just above her shoulders. The third picture dates from 1970 (16 year old) the periode (the fourth to sixth image also) (1968-1974) during which she wear her beautiful hair very long. I saw a photo on which she has waist long hair and looks very beautiful:) . It was a rarity at that time to find a princess with such long blond hair like in the fairytales. On the last photo you see a Princess Marie-Astrid in 1974 (20) after she cut her long blond hair. It was a pity for her lovely hair (she never had long hair again!).
Nevertheless Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg was and is still at the age of 50 one of the most beautiful princesses the world ever saw!:o
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:10 AM
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Here are three recent photos of Marie Astrid and her beautiful children at the beatification of Emperor Karl of Austria taken in October 2004!!!
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I didn't even know about these 3 Princesses and my family is Austrian. Are they related to the Hapsburgs in any way?
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Old 10-19-2004, 08:18 PM
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Marie Christine and Gabriella's father Archduke Carl Christian is a nephew of Archduke Otto, son of the last Emperor of Austria.
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:05 AM
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Hello, for all the fans of Princess Marie-Astrid and her beautiful daughters I would recommend the follwing link, I've created:http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...982#post135982


:) In this thread you see gorgeous photos of Princess Marie-Astrid as a beautiful child and recent photos of her, recent and old photos of her beautiful daughters.:)

My nationality is Luxembourgish and I'm a great fan of the Grand Ducal family, especially of Princess Marie-Astrid and her family (also Archiduchess of Austria) and of Princess Margaretha and her family. I'm so sad that we rarely see images of them in Luxembourg.
:) I would be very pleased if you would reply to these photos and sent others you have and which are not yet shown in the forum.
Bye bye, drimal

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Also being a monarchist, I don't think there was a requirement for the end of the monarchy. I think a transition from the autocratic Imperial Monarchy, to a Commonwealth of national constitutional Monarchies eg: Kingdom of Austria, Kingdom of Hungary, Kingdom of Serbia etc would have been more effective.

Perhaps such a transition would have done something to prevent the instability of the region in the century after the First World War.
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I am sure I am getting all kinds of family relationships mixed up but is not archduke maximilian the man who had some objection to the marrying of someone in his family to the the daughter of thyssen bornemiza

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It was Karl Habsburg who married Francesca Bornemizsa-Thyssen (I hope I got the name right). The marriage was quite controversial as she used to be a wild party girl, and the older - and more conservative - members of the Habsburg family objected to her. However, she was a quite demure-looking bride and hasn't been involved in any scandals since. It seems that her marriage is over and they are separated, but being strict Catholics they can't or won't get a divorce.
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I am sure I am getting all kinds of family relationships mixed up but is not archduke maximilian the man who had some objection to the marrying of someone in his family to the the daughter of thyssen bornemiza
There are so many archdukes around it gets confusing, for me too :)

Archduke Karl of Austria (Otto's eldest son) is married to Francesca Thyssen. I don't know if the couple has split up, they are living apart anyways ... a pitty since they have 3 children. But they're still seen together at parties and family gatherings so maybe all is not lost yet ...?

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As far as the Austrian glossies tell us, they have split up and meet at diverse social functions and family meetings so as not to aggravate the rest of the family and keep up appearances. Oh, well. Karl Habsburg always makes me grateful that Austria's become a republic, anyway.

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It was Karl Habsburg who married Francesca Bornemizsa-Thyssen (I hope I got the name right). The marriage was quite controversial as she used to be a wild party girl, and the older - and more conservative - members of the Habsburg family objected to her.
Some of the more traditional members of the Habsburg family opposed the marriage of the Archduke Karl with Baroness Francesca Thyssen-Bornemisza in 1993 (some actually declined to attend the wedding!) because they did not consider the bride to be "equal". In other words Francesca did not belong to a Royal, Princely or Mediatised House, and was therefore unsuitable marriage material for an Austrian Archduke (more so when he is the Heir of the dynasty.)

However, the Archduke Otto, Karl's father and Head of the Imperial and Royal House, deemed the marriage to be "equal" and so Francesca is an Archduchess of Austria, Imperial and Royal Highness, and her children have full dynastic rights.
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The house laws were changed in the early 90s or late 80s to allow marriage to women of noble rank or lineage. These marriages would be recognized as equal. Thus the problem with Francessca wasn't so much her title of Baroness per se. But rather she lacked a long noble lineage, and her family & lifestyle were somewhat questionable.

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Why is this?
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was also wondering, does he say controversial things?

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Why is this?
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As far as I know he's botched up pretty everything he could. He's been enrolled at university for about 20 terms and still not got a degree, he was an MP for the Austrian People's Party and got involved in a scandal concerning donations to World Vision, he founded his own party, which failed miserably, etc. etc.

No monarch material, if you ask me.
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Please post informations and pics about:

MARGHERITA di SAVOIA-AOSTA, wife of Archduke Robert
ANNA EUGENIE VON ARENBERG, wife of Archduke Felix
YOLANDE DE LIGNE, wife of Archduke Karl Ludwig
XENIA TSCHERNYSCHEW-BEZOBRAZOW,1st wife of Archduke Rudolf
ANNA GABRIELE VON WREDE, 2nd wife of Archduke Rudolf

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Please post informations and pics about:
MARGHERITA di SAVOIA-AOSTA, wife of Archduke Robert
ANNA EUGENIE VON ARENBERG, wife of Archduke Felix
YOLANDE DE LIGNE, wife of Archduke Karl Ludwig
XENIA TSCHERNYSCHEW-BEZOBRAZOW,1st wife of Archduke Rudolf
ANNA GABRIELE VON WREDE, 2nd wife of Archduke Rudolf
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Archduchess Margherita was born in 1930, the elder daughter of Prince Amedeo of Savoy, 3rd Duke of Aosta and Princess Anna of Bourbon-Orléans. She married Archduke Robert (1915-1996) in 1953. She is the mother of Archduke Lorenz of Austria-Este who is married to Princess Astrid of Belgium; Archduke Martin, who married Princess Katharina von Isenburg last year; and two daughters who married Counts. So far Margherita has 15 grandchildren.

Archduchess Anna-Eugenie was born a Princess of Arenberg in 1925. Her parents were Prince and Duke Robert of Arenberg and Princess Gabrielle von Wrede. She married Archduke Felix in 1952, and died in 1997. Her husband, born in 1916, is still alive. None of their seven children have made particularly glittering marriages.

Archduchess Yolande was born in 1923, the younger daughter of Eugene, 12th Prince de Ligne, and Philippine de Noailles. She married Archduke Carl Ludwig in 1950. One of their sons, Archduke Rudolf, has 8 children; the other son, Archduke Carl Christian, is married to Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg. One of the two daughters, Archduchess Constanza, married Franz Josef, then Hereditary Prince of Auersperg-Trauttson.

Archduchess Xenia was the first wife of Archduke Rudolf. She was born in 1929, the daughter of Count Sergei Alexandrovitch Chernychev-Besobrazov and Countess Elisabeth Cheremetev. She married the Archduke in New York in 1953 and was killed in a motor accident in Belgium in 1968. Of their children Carl Peter married Princess Alexandra von Wrede; Simeon married Princess Marie Paloma of Bourbon-Two Sicilies; Maria Anna married Prince Pierre Galitzine; and Johannes was killed in a bicycle accident in Brussels at the age of twelve.

Archduchess Anna Gabrielle married Archduke Rudolf as his second wife in 1971. She was born a Princess von Wrede in 1940, the daughter of Carl, 5th Prince (Fürst) von Wrede and Countess Sophie Schaffgotsch von und zu Kynast und Greiffenstein. They have one child, Archduchess Catherina.

You will find family pics in the various Habsburg wedding threads in the "Old, New, Royal and Blue" sub-forum...
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...splay.php?f=31
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