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Old 04-20-2004, 03:07 AM
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She had 16 children but only 9 arrived at the 20 years, the others didn't survive.
She was the mother of Emperors Joseph II and Leopold II. Also of Marie Caroline, wife of the King of Parma, and Marie Antoinette, wife of the King of France and Navarra.
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Imre is the first person on the left.

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The Imperial Family of Austria is related to several Royal Families like Portugal, Bourbon-Parma, Bourbon Two-Sicilies, Brazil, Spain, Italy, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Bulgaria, Romania, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Belgium, Bavaria, Saxony, Thurn und Taxis, France and many others.
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Maria Theresa was also called "The Mother of Europe" as most of her children married different sovereigns in Europe. Ironically, she was both Marie Antoinette's mother (wife of Louis XVI) and a great-grandmother to Marie-Louise who married Napoleon ca 1810.

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These are the three you're probably talking about.I think his brother is cuter than him. :P
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more family celebration in 2001
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/topixx/da...GER00050266.jpg

beautiful francesca, born thyssen
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fürst und fürstin zu windisch-graetz (in vintage valentino)
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francesca with two of her children
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with cute little gloria
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Francesca is the daughter of the former model Fiona Campbell, right?
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Francesca is the daughter of the former model Fiona Campbell, right?
Yes ...but Fiona also is a member of the Campbell family - ancient Scots feudal family.
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Hi, what the occasion? what are they celebrating? And being an non-ruling house, are they still connected to the other ruling royal house? Example are they going to the danish and spainish wedding? Thanks!!!
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i thought the hapsburg line finished with the abdication of Emperor Karl in 1918?
The Habsburg family died out with Maria-Theresa. Her agnatic descendants are Habsburg-Lothringens. They are Lothringen because they are agnatic descendants of Franz Stefan von Lothringen (Francis Stephan of Lorraine).

It's the same situation as the Romanovs. They are really Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs.
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Marie Antoinette, wife of the King of France.
Maria Theresa fretted and worried constantly about Marie Antoinette. She was too frivolous, was not producing heirs (not all her fault because Louis XVI needed an operation to permit him to have intercourse), and did not listen to any sense or reason in her mother's opinion. Maria Theresa wrote Marie Antoinette constantly and her advice was ignored. Perhaps if Marie Antoinette had listened to her mother, she might not have ended up as she did.

It has been said one of the greatest regrets Maria Theresa had was not seeing a French grandson and heir for France. She died 1 year before he was born.
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In 1918, following the First World War, the Hapsburgs of Austria (and Hungary), along with half a dozen or so other European monarchical dynasties were overthrown, primarily for their part in opposing the British, French, and Americans in World War I. Most of their worldly possessions, reliquaries, homes, and titles were taken from them and they were disgraced. Do you think the Hapsburgs deserved this, and do you think they deserved to remain rulers of Austria following the aggression they unleashed against the Western Allies in WWI?
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being a monarchist, i would have prefered a constitutionl(modern european style) monarchy,but they were quite despotic though.
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Why exactly did they get overthrown? Is it because they didn't agree with the British et al and they got rid of the Habsburg royal family?

If that is the reason, I don't think they should have lost their country etc. just because a big group of countries won a war against them.
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They were involved in World War I and controllled a humungous empire consisting of Austria, Hungary, Czechoslavakia, and parts of the Balkans, Poland, Italy, and other Central European territories. When the began to lose the war, these separate territories began to seceed from the empire, causing a power struggle within Austria itself. When at last the war was over, the empire splintered, and as the people were up in arms against the Hapsburgs, they were removed from power. It was at that time that their enormous wealth of possessions was taken- they probably amounted to billions more than the wealth of the British royals. To be fair, the Hapsburgs had sparked World War I with their ambitions of conquering Serbia. That was one of the integral flaws with their empire, it was not a country and there were no ties of blood or allegiance, it was simply an imperial confederation of subordinate territories under the rule of an autocratic monarchy. That was one of the reasons why their own subjects hated the Hapsburgs so much.
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My basic feeling is, that by the time Franz Josef came along, the empire was already an outdated antique, and though the Emperor was a decent fellow, he was completely unable to govern his empire the way it needed to be governed at the turn of the 20th century. FJ had a firm, almost mystical belief in the powers of autocracy (much like the Tsars) and he was simply overwhelmed by the forces of nationalism and unrest that developed. I personally believe most of his subjects liked and admired him greatly, more than they actually did his Empress, Sissi. I think the Hapsburg Empire had by most means outlived its usefulness, and that was what contributed to its downfall. Just my opinion. :flower:
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in this photo, which is the name of the boy standing behind astrid, talking with maria christina?

here is a new photo of today's reception in honour of astrid and carl christian.
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they are the daughters of archduke carl christian of austria and princess marie astrid of luxembourg and sisters of christopher, imre and alexander. here are some pics i have found of them. gabriella is utterly cute and christine seems to be a really beautiful girl!

astrid, christine and gabriella

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-25.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-27.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-24.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-23.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-22.jpg
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-21.jpg

with their parents and brothers

http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs1...lux1954-20.jpg
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in guillaume's 18th birthday (she is the one in the pink dress)


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