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I know that Otto Von Hapsburg is the oldest son of this marriage. Who are the other siblings? Can anyone list them?
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01-20-2007, 12:39 AM
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I know that Otto Von Hapsburg is the oldest son of this marriage. Who are the other siblings?
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The family of Emperor Karl and Empress Zita
• Otto, Crown Prince of Austria and Hungary (1912- )
married Princess Regina of Saxe-Meiningen
• Adelhaid (1914-1971) unmarried
• Robert, Archduke of Austria-Este, Head of the Ducal House of Modena (1915-1996)
married Princess Margherita of Savoy-Aosta
• Felix (1916- )
married Princess Anna-Eugenie d'Arenberg
• Carl Ludwig (1918-2007)
married Princess Yolande de Ligne
• Rudolf (1919- )
married (1) Countess Xenia Bezobrazoff
married (2) Princess Anna Gabrielle von Wrede
• Charlotte (1921-1989)
married Duke Georg Alexander of Mecklenburg (-Strelitz)
• Elisabeth (1922-1993)
married Prince Heinrich von und zu Liechtenstein
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01-20-2007, 04:20 AM
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It´s strange that all the girls died in their sixties, but the men become all very old. Especially Otto must be of a very strong constitution. It´s impossible that he always travels sooo much, even if he is much over ninety. He must be a bit like his mother, who became so old, too. When I once say him in TV, I would never have thought that he is ober ninety. I appears much younger to me.
Has anybody recent pictures of the family of his son Karl? Or is there another thread for it? Thanks!
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07-11-2007, 01:32 PM
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where is this crown from and does is still exist??
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07-12-2007, 07:34 PM
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If I understand correctly, the Habsburgs who accepted the Republic were permitted to stay in Austria and retain their property. Karl and his family, however, had to leave Austria and lost their property. How did Karl, Zita, and the children survive? Did they have property and assets out of Austria on which they could draw? Did Austria ever return any property? Thanks.
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02-19-2008, 08:16 PM
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I'd love to see pictures of her funeral in Vienna in 1989.
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03-31-2008, 08:35 PM
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I too would be keen to see the video of the Requiem for Emprress Zita. I have heard it is available on the internet, but have failed to find it.
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04-01-2008, 03:58 AM
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No luck with the Empress Zita funeral, but here's a YouTube tribute to the Emperor Karl, featuring the Empress.
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04-14-2008, 06:30 PM
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Which of Zita's sisters ended up in or was in a convent in France? I believe it was somewhere in the south and starts with an S but I may be mistaken. Been trying to find out but can't find any information on that.
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04-14-2008, 07:01 PM
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Empress Zita actually had 3 sisters who were a benedictine nun at Solemnes, France: Princess Adelaide of Bourbon-Parma, Princess Fransesca of Bourbon-Parma and Princess Maria Antonia of Bourbon-Parma. Respectivaly no's 13, 16 and 20 of Duke Roberto's children.
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04-15-2008, 03:48 PM
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thanks, Marengo. Does anyone here know of a connection they may have had to Argentina. I seem to recall someone telling me that one of Zita's sisters was distantly connected or related to some noble family in Argentina, possibly even a Dutch connection. And that she ended up in Solesmes where she still was in 1936.
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04-18-2008, 09:44 AM
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The only Dutch connection I can think of for the Bourbon-Parma family is that the nephew of Zita and her sisters (Duke Carlo Ugo of Parma) was married to HRH Princess Irene of The Netherlands, sister of the present Queen.
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04-23-2008, 07:29 PM
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If I understand correctly, the Habsburgs who accepted the Republic were permitted to stay in Austria and retain their property. Karl and his family, however, had to leave Austria and lost their property. How did Karl, Zita, and the children survive? Did they have property and assets out of Austria on which they could draw? Did Austria ever return any property? Thanks.
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I am reading a book about them at the mo but I haven't got round to their life in exile yet. I think they had some savings account or whatever in Switzerland and some supporters of their regime were helping them out etc. Oh, also, I think, the emperor was hoping that Horthy would invite him to Budapest and let him carry on as the King of Hungary or something but Horthy never did.
One of my friends in Germany who is a lawyer also tells me that this property issue is in such a chaos because some of those properties that previously belonged to those aristocratic families and all were sold out to some wealthy people post their revolutions and then those that were owned by the Jews were confiscated by the Nazi government etc during the Hitler's regime etc, it is very difficult to identify who the most rightful owners of those properties are etc.
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I have moved the posts about Archduke Otto's carreer, nationality and titles to a new thread dedicated to the Archduke and his wife, which can be found here.
Now about how Zita survived and such, I believe she did receive help from relatives, the Spanish King helped her with the villa in the North of Spain, if I remember correctly.
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I wish that Emperor Karl could had more time to show how he could have managed as a good Kaiser. I think he could have been a great Emperor. Franz Josef was a very "professional" Emperor, but maybe Karl, helped by his wife, Zita could have become the true soul of Austria.
Vanesa.
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07-08-2008, 11:47 AM
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I'd love to see pictures of her funeral in Vienna in 1989.
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07-14-2008, 06:42 PM
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A nice portrait of the Empress:
The family:
 
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