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Also she had been warned that Geneva was a dangerous area at that time for members of royal and noble families, the Empress insisted on leaving the Beau Rivage Hotel without any bodyguards. Just her lady-in-waiting Irma Sztaray accompanied her on the walk along the quai. Elisabeth never liked to have any kind of bodyguards around her who were controlling every step she made. I would recommend the book written by Irma Sztaray for detailed info on the incident.

As for Elisabeth as a mother - She loved her first child. But...After her first daughter Sophie's death, she blamed herself for it (she had taken her with her on a journey, against peoples' advice not to do it. Sophie got sick and died) and never got over the loss and the guilt. This certainly influenced her behaviour and relationship to her future children. Just Marie Valerie, her last youngest daughter got all the love (some even say too much love) from Elisabeth. She was called 'her favourite'.
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I think forums are interesting and they also give feedback
on the number of hits, you can gauge popularity and public interest.
In my forum, Fergie has topped 2000 hits... not a bad score
easily outdoing Lady Di and Princess Anne....
but the star of them all is Empress Elizabeth with well over
4000 hits.
It proves that even now in 2011, so many years after her untimely death, she still fascinates people and has become a Royal Legend
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An organisation of the hungarian minority in romania (National Council of Hungarians from Transilvania) asked the local authorities of Cluj-Napoca to have the statue of Empress Elisabeth of Austria on Cetatuia hill:

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Maghiarii vor sa amplaseze bustul fostei imparatese Austro -Ungare, Sisi, pe Dealul Cetatuia VIDEO - Politic/Administrativ - Stiri de Cluj
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I am sad for the way empress Elisabeth died by being stabbed.damn that anti royal. I am sure emperor Franz Joseph grieved her death.
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Besided her murder didn't want to kill her originally; his plan was to kill the Duke of Orleans, the claimant to the French throne, but at the last moment the Duke cancelled his journey to Geneva so Lucheni bent over Elisabeth.
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Ok, I've seen pictures of Elisabeth and though she is in no way unattractive, I am stunned that she was regarded as the most beautiful woman in Europe.
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Empress of Austria found in Meath kennel - The Irish Times - Sat, Jan 28, 2012

LONG FEARED lost, an important painting of Empress Elisabeth of Austria - on horseback in Ireland - has been found behind a wardrobe in kennels in Co Meath.

The oil painting, in a frame decorated with scrolling shamrock, depicts Elisabeth of Austria, wife of the Habsburg Emperor Franz Joseph I, seated on a bay mare called Domino while hunting in Co Meath. It was commissioned by the empress and sent as a thank you gift to the Ward Union Hunt following her visits to Ireland in 1879 and 1880. But the painting was lost decades ago and only rediscovered last year stored behind a wardrobe at the hunt's kennels headquarters in Co Meath.

Now the oil painting, by Wilhelm Richter - a well-known 19th century Austrian portrait painter - is being donated by the Ward Union Hunt to the Royal Dublin Society on "indefinite loan".

The painting is not the first piece of Sisi memorabilia to surface in Ireland. In 2010, a riding whip decorated with a silver band bearing the imperial Habsburg crest, which she had presented to Capt Robert Fowler, master of the Meath Hunt in 1879, was found in the attic of Rahinstown House, Co Meath by his great, great, grand-nephew Charles Fowler. It was sent for sale to Adam's and sold for €37,000 to a collector in the Channel Islands who outbid a museum devoted to the Empress in Austria.
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Does anyone know his reactions to all the deaths of important people like crown prince Rudolph , archduke Franz Ferdinand and empress Elisabeth.
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Both his daughters Gisela and Marie Valerie left reports of his reaction - he suffered severely and needed a lot of support from his daughters and family.
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It was reported that, when he was told of his wife's assassination, his first words have been "Mir bleibt doch gar nichts erspart auf dieser Welt!", "I really don't escape anything in this world!".
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He said this when he was told about Franz Ferdinand ' s assassination. "You do not know how much I have loved this woman! " were his words concerning Elisabeth's death.
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According to both Nicole Avril's biography on Elisabeth and Alan Palmer's biography on Franz Joseph, he said the words I mentioned above when he was told of Elisabeth death.
Palmer adds that after exclaiming "Mir bleibt doch gar nichts erspart auf dieser Welt!", the Emperor whispered "Niemand weiß, wie sehr wir uns geliebt haben" ("Nobody knows how much we loved each other"). These words have also been reported in a different version, "Niemand weiß, wie sehr ich diese Frau geliebt habe" ("Nobody knows how much I have loved this woman").
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Read Hamann's book about Elisabeth it is as always the most reliable source. Even his daughter confirmed his words. And regarding Rudolph 's dead we don't know his first words cause Elisabeth told him in private about it.the servants were too afraid of him and his reaction. Later he said "my son has died like a Schneider" which refers to a very cowardly way of dying. Schneider is a stag who tries to hide from the hunters.
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in German: Elisabeth - Kaiserin wider Willen. in English it is called The reluctant Empress by Brigitte Hamann. Her biographies about Elisabeth and Rudolph are unsurpassed
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So many paintings of Elizabeth with a wasp waist ....
it must have been so fashionable back then !
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Finally got my hot little hands on " The Lonely Empress" by Joan Haslip.
400 plus pages !
looks good so far !
Archduchess Sophie tried to marry her son the young Emporer Francis into the Prussian dynasty but Bismark was having none of it...
so she then turned her eyes to the young daughters of her sister Ludovica in Bavaria.... the daughters of a mere Duke.... but then.....
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It is maybe interesting to know that said Prussian princess lived two years longer than Franz Joseph and was very much loved by her people...

The current House of Hesse is descended from Princess Maria Anna of Prussia, Landgravine of Hesse-Kassel. If you look her up on German Wikipedia, you may get an idea why Franz Joseph fell for her...

Interestingly she chose herself to convert to Catholizism, was thrown out of the House of Prussia for that (I bet if she had been able to marry Franz Joseph she would have been allowed to stay...) and lived for her last years like a nun, being famous for her charity work.

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The parallels with Marie Antoinette go on and on...
(though Franz Joseph was far more intelligent and astute
than Louis 16th ...). but reading the biog I see that
Eliz sis Maria ... became the Queen of Naples !
and years before, Marie Antoinette's sis was the Qu of Naples too !

Got to say though, Empress Eliz often seems very spoiled and selfish.... the winter she crossed the Atlantic to swan about in Madeira for example .... for what seems like bogus health reasons.... leaving her hubby and two young children behind in wintry Vienna.
Then the leisurely return voyage with stop overs in Spain, Malta and Corfu.
Emperor Franz was far too indulgent with his spoiled, self centered wife.... another husband might have took her over his knee...............
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Read The reluctant Empress by Brigitte Hamann and you will understand Elisabeth and her behaviour better. To compare her with Marie Antoinette is utter nonsense! She was a very intelligent yet deeply unhappy and therefore self-centered woman who was most definitely ill in 1859. The medical reports still exist. Her children were well looked after by their grandmother and winter in Vienna is not winter in Russia! It would Never have been possible to take them with her after the death of her eldest daughter in Hungary ......
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