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Old 09-03-2012, 07:55 PM
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I wonder if there are any pictures of the inside....the outside looks gothic style. I'll see if I can find a website on the interior.

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Found a site...absolutely BEAUTIFUL altar...
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:31 PM
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Why are they getting married in D.C. rather than in Luxembourg which would be appropriate for someone of his stature? Or did I miss something?
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Why are they getting married in D.C. rather than in Luxembourg which would be appropriate for someone of his stature? Or did I miss something?
I don't think that you missed anything. I suppose that they are marrying in DC because it is traditional to hold the wedding in a venue associated with the bride, and there is no reason to do otherwise in this case.

Archduke Imre is not officially part of the royal family of Luxembourg, so there would be no reason to hold it here. His mother is a princess of Luxembourg by birth, but his father -- who determines the family or "house" to which Imre belongs -- is a member of the deposed imperial & royal family of Austria. In short, Imre belongs to the House of Habsburg-Lorraine, not to the House of Nassau (which rules Luxembourg). In my observation, it is only when the groom is a pretty high-ranking member of a reigning royal house -- and the bride is not -- that a wedding takes place at his location rather than hers. Such will be the case when Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume weds Countess Stephanie de Lannoy.

I believe that Kathleen Walker's parents live in Ohio, but she lives in DC. I don't know about you, but I can much more easily picture Princess/Archduchess Marie Astrid attending her son's wedding in Washington than in Ohio, no? To me, it makes sense.
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:09 PM
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... Princess/Archduchess Marie Astrid in Ohio ... It would have been like travelling to an exotic country. It would be fair to say that Washington, D.C., seems like a city without soul.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:33 PM
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I find her a bit repugnant, and really wish he was marrying someone who isn't involved in heavily divisive political lobbying, but what's done is done. Hopefully the pictures will be nice. I'm more interested in the next Hapsburg wedding.
She is a very vocal young lady is all I can say. But I'm glad that she & Imre are happy together.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:52 PM
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Noblesse oblige............. These marriages will be considered unequal? The American will never be able to call herself an Erzherzogin?
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:55 PM
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Both marriages will be equal, and both Adelaide and Katie will become Archduchesses of Austria.
According to the current rules of the Habsburg Family, the only requirement for a marriage of an Archduke to be equal is that the bride is Christian, and both the fiancées of Christoph and Imre are.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:51 AM
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So once Adelaide and Katie will get married will they be known as Archduchess Katie and Archduchess Adelaide or will they be known as Archduchess Imre and Archduchess Christoph?. Is an Archduke's marriage considered equal even if he marries a non catholic/non christian?
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Do you think that Kathleen and Adelaide will borrow tiaras for their weddings? Their sister-in-law AD Marie Christine wore the small floral diamond tiara of Grand Duchess Maria Theresa.
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So once Adelaide and Katie will get married will they be known as Archduchess Katie and Archduchess Adelaide or will they be known as Archduchess Imre and Archduchess Christoph?. Is an Archduke's marriage considered equal even if he marries a non catholic/non christian?
Actually, Otto change the rules and it doesn't matter if an Achduc marry a noble girl or not. The only thing that matters is that she has to be a (practising) catholic. Which Katie clearly is
Imre is really catholic, so is Christoph and Adelaide. I think European people just tend to be discreet about their positions. Americans are not, that's why you just know about Katies positions. You'll be surprised about Imres, Christophes and Adelaides. But what's important is that they love eachother right?
It would have been different if Guillaume or Felix would marry Katie. Or Amedeo or Joachim. But be realistic. Imre is not in line for the Luxemburg trone, neither that of the Habsburg, so let's them live their life, who cares?
I wish them both lot of happiness and joy.

PS: I saw them together, and clearly, they are in love. No, Katie is not an evil woman who just wanted to marry an Habsburg
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:46 AM
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Afaik, there is no need for the bride to be catholic. It's fine as long as she's a christian. One recent example is Archduchess Eilika, a born Princess of Oldenburg and a protestant.
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Afaik, there is no need for the bride to be catholic. It's fine as long as she's a christian. One recent example is Archduchess Eilika, a born Princess of Oldenburg and a protestant.
I'm sorry, I read in had book they had to, but you're probably right because Eilika is an archduchess :)
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Do you think that Kathleen and Adelaide will borrow tiaras for their weddings? Their sister-in-law AD Marie Christine wore the small floral diamond tiara of Grand Duchess Maria Theresa.
Thwere also is a tiara in that line of the habsburgs which was worn by Imre and Christophes aunts Archduchesses Alexandra and Constanza at their Wedding days and also by Estelle de Saint-Romain the wife of their cousin Carl Christian. so it also could be that they wear this tiara.
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mre is not in line for the Luxemburg trone, neither that of the Habsburg, so let's them live their life, who cares?
Imre is in line to the headship of the House of Habsburg. But only on a distant place as his grandfather was the 4th son of the later Emperor Karl I. and his fathers older brother has 6 sons.
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More precisely he is the 24th in the line of succession to the Headship of the former Imperial House (and Christoph is the 25th).
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Does anyone know the time of the wedding on Saturday? I live 30 minutes from DC and I was thinking about popping over to the church to see if I see anyone? Depending on their schedule and mine of course.
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Does anyone know the time of the wedding on Saturday? I live 30 minutes from DC and I was thinking about popping over to the church to see if I see anyone? Depending on their schedule and mine of course.

Apparently the reception is at 1pm at the Regis Hotel. So they Wedding will probably at 10 or 10:30.
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Thwere also is a tiara in that line of the habsburgs which was worn by Imre and Christophes aunts Archduchesses Alexandra and Constanza at their Wedding days and also by Estelle de Saint-Romain the wife of their cousin Carl Christian. so it also could be that they wear this tiara.
Yes, that is another possibility. Do you know more about the origin of this tiara? I must admit that the design is not my favourite.
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Yes, that is another possibility. Do you know more about the origin of this tiara? I must admit that the design is not my favourite.
No Idea. Perhaps a de Ligne inheritance. But AD Yolanda wore another tiara on her Wedding day.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:35 PM
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I think European people just tend to be discreet about their positions. Americans are not, that's why you just know about Katies positions.
Um, no. Believe me, I understand the reputation that Americans have in Europe as loud mouths. Also, much of American television caters to the lowest common denominator and to the worst instincts in people - so that, if you happen to see broadcasts of American programs in Europe, you may get the impression that all Americans are this way. For the record, there are plenty of Americans who, by temperament and/or education, are discreet about their opinions and don't feel the need either to vent them in public or to cast harsh judgment on those who think differently. Kathleen Walker is apparently not one of them.
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