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Old 07-16-2011, 03:29 AM
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Otto von Habsburg | The Economist

The Economist obituary. As a long-time reader I was surprised of this remarkable obituary from the very British The Economist. I strongly recommend this warm and just obituary of HIRH Archduke Otto.
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Old 07-16-2011, 04:11 AM
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In 23 October 1989 CBC radio interviewed Archduke Otto. This was replayed last week on the following podcast, the interview was from the 17th to the 21st minutes of a total of 26 minutes program. Although short is a treat to listen to Otto's voice, his passion and intelligent replies to the naive questions of the journalist. Enjoy: Audio
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:38 AM
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Many thanks for making this available ! You made him come alive for me :-)
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:05 AM
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Funeral Ceremony For Otto Von Habsburg

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Old 07-16-2011, 09:08 AM
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I've been meaning to ask: the banner on his coffin is that the banner that the Kaisers used or a different one?
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:44 AM
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Thank you!

I am surprised HM King Mihai I is not near the swedish royal couple in the first desk but in the third one near Princess Astrid of Belgium...
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:48 AM
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No,not surprised at all.King Mihai is not a ruling Monarch,like HM King Carl XVI Gustav is.Protocol is strict,and all know that.
Heads of State and Heads of Governments ( PM's) have precedence,always.

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I've been meaning to ask: the banner on his coffin is that the banner that the Kaisers used or a different one?
The Imperial banner.

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Old 07-16-2011, 10:08 AM
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Always a bit taken aback when I see Europeans stand after the consecration since we here in the US kneel throughout the whole of the Canon.

The Cardinal is wearing his Golden Fleece knighthood symbol. What's he saying about "Gott erhalte?"

In English that tune is sung to "Holy God we praise thy name." Anyone know what the German lyrics are?

Did I hear correctly that the Archbishop of Prague was present?

I noticed that the President did not sing "Gott Erhalte!" Does the Austrian President actually live in the Hofburg or just have an office there?

Now a military salute in Hero's Plaza? The Republic is going all out! The commentators are going on and on about monarchy and form of government. My German is no where near good enough to keep up. It sounds interesting, though.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:19 AM
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Prince Hassan of Jordan was in the second desk and the Kings of Romania and Bulgaria in the third?

Today the real Austria is really present.The austrians should understand how much they had lost abolishing the Monarchy.The real symbol of Austria is the imperial House of Habsburg! A real imperial funeral, wonderful music.

I didn't understand the homily of HE Cardinal Cristoph von Schonborn but I suppose he spoke about the whole life of the late Archduke. There were bishops from Austria,Hungary,Czech R., Slovenia,Slovakia,...

In a real democracy a surname should be respected and not see this shameful cut off of "von".The austrian republicans still apply a non-democratical law that forbids the use of "von".They really fear to call the dead Archduke Otto von Habsburg and they continue with their "Otto Habsburg". The republicans still fear the restoration of the Habsburgs that's why they still mantain non-democratical laws of 1919.

He was the last Crown Prince of Austro-Hungary but his elder son could become the Emperor of Austria.I suppose many austrians think Monarchy could be a better solution for Austria. I noticed everybody was very respectful (with the exception of the problem of the surname continously repeated without "von") and the Habsburgs seem to me quite popular despite of a so long republican campaign.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:44 AM
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His Imperial and Royal Highness Crown Prince Otto of Austria, Hungary, Croatia and Bohemia (1912- 2011).

May God bless his soul and may we all honour his memory.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:54 AM
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What's the Cardinal saying about "Gott erhalte?"
He was just announcing it would be sung.

The gentleman in the Navy uniform of a Captain-Lieutenant,wearing the pillow with the Toison d'Or is the eldest son of Otto's daughter Gabriela,thus his grandson,Severin Meister.He served in the German Navy an dhas special permission by the German Embassy in Vienna to wear the uniform today.

His mother,Mrs.Meister néé Archduchess Gabriela of Austria lives in Georgia and is that country's ambassador to Germany.

The gentlemen in red uniforms escoring the Imperial Family consist of the Members of the Tradional Society of the Imperial Lifeguards,dressed in the uniform as was worn during the days of the Empire.Then,as now,they always escort the Family.

Thousands followed the Requiem at the Stephans Square by the video walls.While ten's of thousands line the streets trhough which the funerary procession will proceed to the Kapuziner church.On the Helden Platz ( Hero's Square) there will be a salute by firing guns.

At present you see the Guards of the present day Austrian army. Austrian top brass insisted on participating in the funerary ceremonies.
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Did I hear correctly that the Archbishop of Prague was present?
I noticed that the President did not sing "Gott Erhalte!"
Hmm,wonder why....every funeral has a funny note to it..
But HM Queen Silvia and TSH Prince Hans-Adam and Princess Marie -Aglaé did sing the anthem..Gott Beschütze,Gott erhalte,unseren Kaiser,unseren Land....

Yes,Bishops of all neighbouring dioceses,read all the former Lands of the Empire,are present.Yes.

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And, of course, the men in the black robes with the white crosses are members of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, the oldest and most prestigious order of the Catholic Church

So is this a state funeral? I know the Austrian government said it would not be. But you have the Austrian military, heads of state, heads of government, etc...
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:20 AM
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They haven't been able to really point that out and came out with a semi-state funeral.Semi State,and then all these people show up at ones funeral.No,it definitely IS a State Funeral,it's just official Austria can't get that out between their lips as it is a republic now....Hmm,a republic with a strong foundation shouldn't be halve as nervous at it....Their top brass insisted to appear and have part in this funeral,such are the sentiments,the honour and respect.

The President and the Chancellor of Austria are in attendance,so no,they do pay respect.And,the State of Austria abolished the Laws against Members of the House of Habsburg participating in elections for President of Austria.

That is correct Cory....what are they so afraid for...hmm

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Does the Austrian President actually live in the Hofburg or just have an office there?
Just the office.

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Old 07-16-2011, 11:29 AM
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A semi-state funeral? Isn't that like being semi-pregnant?

At least the military is showing the proper respect, even if the Government can't bring themselves to.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:35 AM
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I thought that I read the entire route of the procession was only 1km long. It seems to be taking a long time for just 1km.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:37 AM
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I suppose it's about 5 km ...
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:40 AM
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I suppose it's about 5 km ...


In fact it is reall a short distance,a few minutes walk really,but they take such a detour especially for this historic occasion and because the procession is the longest in Austrian history,about 1,5 km.

When the coffin was set in motion at the Dom,the front of the procession had already reached the Helden Platz.

You see the salute at the Helden Platz now

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Old 07-16-2011, 11:59 AM
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Thank you, Lucien, for being our guide today at this hystoric event!
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:11 PM
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It is really moving to see the Imperial Banner once more in the streets of Vienna,and thousands throng the streets to pay their respects,or just out of curiosity,likewise,they are there and it is a most fitting farewell of a great human being ans last Crown Prince of Austria-Hungary IMHO.

Mr.Ulrich Lipp,family friend and lawyer,will now perform the Knocking on the Door ceremony.


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