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Old 10-13-2012, 07:56 AM
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It's all still new to her but hopefully she will learnas she gains experience. There I have said something positive.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:10 AM
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There is no Maharajah. The last one, Bhawani Singh, died a few years ago. He had an only child, a daughter, who married a very ordinary commoner. Their child, a boy, was chosen by Bhawani Singh as his successor but since all princely titles were abolished in 1971, there are no maharajas at present in India. The boy is not considered royal at all by most people except those who are very close to the family.



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I wondered that too, especially since he is a young boy and he probably had never heard of either of them.
I am wondering if they actually stayed in his palace or just in the part of the palace which is a hotel and maybe based on their "titles" they got invited to the residence for tea or dinner.

Of course now we have to be kept informed that she and her husband are spending time at Mother Theresas house working with the poorest of the poor.
http://royalmusingsblogspotcom

They must be the first couple to either take a publicist on their honeymoon or one of them is sending regular updates to media. Your guess on which one that might be

I don't think I would care to meet Mrs Habsburg.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:12 AM
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I have a question: Is she prominent face in the States or is she just known in her own circle? Does her publicity bring anything to the table? Or is she preaching to the choir?
Just curious.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:58 AM
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Oh my god - that's such a sick discussion !!!

When did they marry ? A month ago ? I think they have had their real quiet peaceful honeymoon ( normal people have mostly just 1-2 weeks !!!!)

And now they travel around the world ( probably a wedding present)
and attended one ( omg might have been even two - didn't count) charity or social work appointment.

I really enjoy that these two young people do social and charity work and don't just think of theirselves like too many young people do today.

It is their choice for what political, religious or social obejects they spend their time on and were are not right to judge their aims or the way they spend their honeymoon or live.

And being honest - they didn't recive THAT much attention, so it's actually not such a big deal !!! They weren't at Hello magazine cover !

AND it is also the couples choice how loud and public they want to live and how emphatic they fight for their aims.

If Marie Christine and houseband like their daughter in law ? No idea - may be they do, may be they don't. It is NOT our family and NOT our problem!

But it's Imres live and, as far as now, she didn't really abouse his name and she didn't really do bad things. She doesn't act like Katie Price - so what's the matter ???

It's their live and they are free to live the way they want. So stop jealuosy and enjoy two young persons who look beyond look beyond the rim of your teacup!
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:30 AM
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I have a question: Is she prominent face in the States or is she just known in her own circle? Does her publicity bring anything to the table? Or is she preaching to the choir?
Just curious.

This. She was and is a complete unknown in the US.
She needs to stop feeding her publicity hunger and divisive behaviour by using her husband's royal title.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:31 AM
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I have a question: Is she prominent face in the States or is she just known in her own circle? Does her publicity bring anything to the table? Or is she preaching to the choir?
Just curious.
No, she is not a prominent person in the United States. If I did not follow royalty as closely as I do, I would have never even heard of her. That said, I wonder why she seems to get under people's skin the way she does. As far as I can tell she espouses conservative principles such as abstinence and her pro-life stance. Imre had full knowledge of her activities and beliefs well before marriage. I personally believe that if there was more abstinence and fewer abortions our society would be a better place, but I am not naive enough to expect this to actually happen. I wish more young people would speak out for their beliefs the way she has. I hope they have a very happy and successful marriage.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:50 AM
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Because her methods include standing in front of clinics and handing out religious literature to women trying to see their doctors- which is insanely and unbelievably rude. Because she's argued that the Inquisition wasn't an atrocity. Because she worked for a group who's job was to lobby for incredibly restrictive legislation.

Her beliefs don't bother me. They're her own. It's her bullying desire to encode those beliefs into laws that effect ALL women that makes me furious.

I very much hope this couple doesn't return to the U.S.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:57 AM
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It's their live and they are free to live the way they want. So stop jealuosy and enjoy two young persons who look beyond look beyond the rim of your teacup!
Is there any particular reason for any TRF member to be jealous of Archduchess Kathleen? Given the articles and photos, TRF members expressed favourable/unfavourable opinions. No better, no worse than they did/do in other threads.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:17 PM
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It is their choice for what political, religious or social obejects they spend their time on and were are not right to judge their aims or the way they spend their honeymoon or live.



She doesn't act like Katie Price - so what's the matter ???
So we shouldn't judge anybody but it's ok for you to judge Katie Price? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

Discussing our opinions of royalty is kind of the point of this forum. That includes both positive and negative opinions. So far in this thread I have seen people being very restrained in how they express their opinions especially compared with the things I've heard said about this couple in real life.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:52 PM
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About Katie:
I didn't and don't judge Katie Price. I just took her as an example of a women, who is often in the media and is not very close to royalty by clothes or language. I could have named a few more women, but I didn't want to spend much time on that due it's not the main tenor of my post. And: no there is also no problem with Katie's clothing or language ... don't want to open a Katie fuzz about it. So let's leave that before this turns into a side show.

About jealousy:
I feel that there is a bigger than normal discussion about them, but I think that there is not that much to discuss - the two are not first row of european royals and rather second row - evens as Habsburgs.
Theres not much substance - just an article - and no big non royal controversy acting happened to my opinion. Too: not much positive was said about her, eventhough she tried to do positive things in this world.
I felt that some people just didn't like the fact that SHE hooked a imperial highness while OTHERS never will do.

About my intention:
Someone started to make a fuzz about nearly nothing in this thread. She is not a crown princess, didn't pressed herself agressivly and repeatedly into media and they keep quite a low profile. So please DO relax and give her time. Stop prejugding her !

Let's look at them for a while and when she goes to a point, where she does aggressive PR and attends very often in the media we can start this discussion again.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:59 PM
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I have a question: Is she prominent face in the States or is she just known in her own circle? Does her publicity bring anything to the table? Or is she preaching to the choir?
Just curious.
Basically Mrs Habsburg preaches to the choir, those who believe that they and only they know the proper way to live and feel that their views should be enshrined in law to force everyone else to live their way.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:02 PM
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About Katie:
I didn't and don't judge Katie Price. I just took her as an example of a women, who is often in the media and is not very close to royalty by clothes or language. I could have named a few more women, but I didn't want to spend much time on that due it's not the main tenor of my post. And: no there is also no problem with Katie's clothing or language ... don't want to open a Katie fuzz about it. So let's leave that before this turns into a side show.

About jealousy:
I feel that there is a bigger than normal discussion about them, but I think that there is not that much to discuss - the two are not first row of european royals and rather second row - evens as Habsburgs.
Theres not much substance - just an article - and no big non royal controversy acting happened to my opinion. Too: not much positive was said about her, eventhough she tried to do positive things in this world.
I felt that some people just didn't like the fact that SHE hooked a imperial highness while OTHERS never will do.

About my intention:
Someone started to make a fuzz about nearly nothing in this thread. She is not a crown princess, didn't pressed herself agressivly and repeatedly into media and they keep quite a low profile. So please DO relax and give her time. Stop prejugding her !

Let's look at them for a while and when she goes to a point, where she does aggressive PR and attends very often in the media we can start this discussion again.
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Archduchess Kathleen's actions are and will be judged through the prism of her staunch views. There are million subtle fine points separating demeanour of an aristocrat from that of an ordinary man or woman. It would be deemed expedient for her to learn them.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:08 PM
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Kathleen's views are exactly what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. Not more and not less. Right now there is a 40 day program going on in the US to bring light to the issue of aborted babies. Yes the Catholic Church believes that it is a baby from the moment of conception. It is an issue that will always devide people.
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Agreed Grandma. Kathleen is a devout Catholic and works for a pro-life group. She is welcome to her opinions. Imre and Kathleen are not representatives of a ruling family. They are private citizens.
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Being private citizens, why then present themselves as Austrian Royals in Indian newspapers?
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That is a very good question Magali. WHY indeed ???
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:15 PM
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Being private citizens, why then present themselves as Austrian Royals in Indian newspapers?
Imre and Kathleen are members of a non-ruling family, but I don't see why they cannot mention that fact. After all it is who they are.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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No, she is not a prominent person in the United States. If I did not follow royalty as closely as I do, I would have never even heard of her. That said, I wonder why she seems to get under people's skin the way she does. As far as I can tell she espouses conservative principles such as abstinence and her pro-life stance. Imre had full knowledge of her activities and beliefs well before marriage. I personally believe that if there was more abstinence and fewer abortions our society would be a better place, but I am not naive enough to expect this to actually happen. I wish more young people would speak out for their beliefs the way she has. I hope they have a very happy and successful marriage.
Agreed. Imre's relatives including (the late King Baudoin and GD Henri) appear to have held or currently have the same views. Both men asked their governments to declare them temporarily "unfit to rule" in order to avoid signing legislature that conflicted with their conscience. Therefore it would not surprise me if Imre and his immediate family were also pro-life. No doubt they were all fully aware of Kathleen's views and her career prior to their engagement.

If the couple decide to spend part of their honeymoon working at a charitable organization then I cannot fault them for that decision.
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No, she is not a prominent person in the United States. If I did not follow royalty as closely as I do, I would have never even heard of her. That said, I wonder why she seems to get under people's skin the way she does. As far as I can tell she espouses conservative principles such as abstinence and her pro-life stance. Imre had full knowledge of her activities and beliefs well before marriage. I personally believe that if there was more abstinence and fewer abortions our society would be a better place, but I am not naive enough to expect this to actually happen. I wish more young people would speak out for their beliefs the way she has. I hope they have a very happy and successful marriage.
I think she irritates people because she's an activist, (although not an especially articulate one), and people tend to love activists who have principles that agree with their own and vilify those who don't.

I don't agree with all of her views, but I appreciate the fact that she has a set of beliefs and is acting in a way she feels is morally consistent with those beliefs.
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I think she irritates people because she's an activist, (although not an especially articulate one), and people tend to love activists who have principles that agree with their own and vilify those who don't.

I don't agree with all of her views, but I appreciate the fact that she has a set of beliefs and is acting in a way she feels is morally consistent with those beliefs.
Excellent observation camelot23ca!
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