Archduchess Marie-Christine to Marry Count Rodolphe of Limburg-Stirum Dec 2008

[pamk]

I never knew any of this regarding the Belgian nobility.
Sometimes, the magazine Point de Vue will highlight a big social event in Belgium. None of the names of attendees are familiar at all and I wondor just who these people are and are they trying to one-up the French nobility?
(Please, I am not trying to start a huge arguement, just wondoring ...)

[fearghas]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Well, one wonders how much of this perfect lifestyle was actually their own choise and how much of it was pressure from their parents/social group etc.

Interesting. There are quite a few families in my neighbourhood that raise their children the same way, only instead of being Nobility they are Christians.

[Stefanie]

Well, IMO it would´ve been better for some High-nobility if they had rised (rosed, rosen, educated don´t know) their children in that way. I´m still not very fond of princesses like Letizia, Mette-Marit, Clothilde Cureau a.s.o.....
I find it a blessing that there are still a few noble families who keep traditions and pass them on to their children. Can´t imagine that f.i. Marie-Christine of Habsburg feels pushed or urged in a direction she didn´t want by herself. To me she seems very happy.

[BMC]

I think that most parents want their children to marry people like themselves- similar economic/social/religious background. People are much more comfortable with the known than the unknown. Plus the more a couple has in common the fewer areas of dispute there are.

[Al_bina]

It is really great that there are aristocrats that adhere to traditions. Archduchess Marie-Christine and Count Rodolphe seem to be a lovely couple.
I am looking forward to seeing some wedding photos.

[R_Bee]

Originally Posted by BMC

I think that most parents want their children to marry people like themselves- similar economic/social/religious background. People are much more comfortable with the known than the unknown. Plus the more a couple has in common the fewer areas of dispute there are.

Indeed. I know my mother and many other family members would be upset if I announced that I was going to marry a man who was unemployed, or didn't have his own house/apartment, among other things. Expecting your children to marry at a certain "level," or having family traditions that one is expected to follow, isn't just something royals and nobles do-although for royals, sometimes they have more to lose by not following their family's wishes.

[christinacg]

I can't believe I'm just stumbling across this! I'm so happy for Marie-Christina. She's one of the younger royals I like. A December wedding will be very romantic! Can't wait to see her as a bride.

[JulieS]

Originally Posted by stephanievl

Emperor Karl, beatified by pope John Paul I, is buried on the isle of Madeira).

Emperor Karl was beatified by Pope John Paul II.

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by stephanievl

Emperor Karl, beatified by pope John Paul I, is buried on the isle of Madeira

As a side note, Karl I died in 1922, at Quinta do Monte (now called Quinta Jardins do Imperador) and he was buried at the Church of Nossa Senhora do Monte, more precisely in the chapel of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (on whose churchyard there's a sculpture of the Emperor).
Many pilgrims who visit this Portuguese island come to pray or fulfil vows by the tomb of Karl I.

[sgl]

I am just looking at this thread for the first time. Marie-Christine looks so much younger than 24! They are a very handsome couple, and I am looking forward to seeing photos of their wedding.

[pamk]

Does Marie Christine retain her title of Archduchess upon marriage?
She will become a Countess, but the title of Archduchess is higher, so does she also keep using that title?

[MAfan]

Certainly She will become H.E. the Countess Rodolphe de Limburg-Stirum, but I don't think She will retain Her Imperial titles...

[maria-olivia]

It will be like this :
Comte Rodolphe de Limburg-Stirum et S.A.R.I. la Comtesse Rodolphe , née Archiduchesse de Habsbourg-Lorraine.
In Belgium we never use H.E. for a Count , well for a Prime Minister or Ambassadors etc..

[MAfan]

It seems to me that the Counts of Limburg-Stirum are Counts of the Holy Roman Empire, so Marie Christine will be Ihre Erlaucht Marie Christine Grafin Rodolphe von Limburg-Stirum, or Comtesse Rodolphe de Limburg-Stirum, during theyr marriage. If I don't mistake, the bride takes the style and the titles of the groom during the marriage.

[Carminha Stalker]

Marie Christine is very pretty and seems like a very happy person. Her Mother, Marie Astrid was a gorgeous child. I hope the young couple will be very blessed.

[Next Star]

Archduchess Marie-Christine of Austria is beautiful and her fiancee Count Rodolphe of
Limburg-stirum are a lovely couple and I can't wait until they marry in dec.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

It will be like this :
Comte Rodolphe de Limburg-Stirum et S.A.R.I. la Comtesse Rodolphe , née Archiduchesse de Habsbourg-Lorraine.
In Belgium we never use H.E. for a Count , well for a Prime Minister or Ambassadors etc..

socially that will be the title indeed, legally she does not have the SARI (or HKzKH, as the count seems to be bilingual ). I believe only her uncle Rudolphe and his eldest son Carl-Christian (same name as his uncle) are incorperated in the Belgian nobility. I am not sure if they received the HIRH though, probably not.

[maria-olivia]

Carl-Christian is the late AD Charles-Louis son.

[MAfan]

Originally Posted by Marengo

socially that will be the title indeed, legally she does not have the SARI (or HKzKH, as the count seems to be bilingual ). I believe only her uncle Rudolphe and his eldest son Carl-Christian (same name as his uncle) are incorperated in the Belgian nobility. I am not sure if they received the HIRH though, probably not.

Only Archduke Rudolf (b. 1950) and his eldest son Archduke Carl Christian (b. 1977) are incorporate in the Belgian Nobility as Prince(s) de Habsbourg-Lorraine.

The title of Archduke(ss) of Habsburg-Lothringen or Lorraine doesn't exist; Habsburg-Lothringen/Lorraine is only a personal/legal surname; the correct title is Archduke(ss) of Austria, Royal Prince(ss) of Hungary and Bohemia.