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Old 11-20-2011, 10:29 PM
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In Portugal we also use Infanta and Infante the same way as in Spain. Also I've Seen Elena and Cristina called Princess ___ of Spain when translated into English.
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Not the wives of the infantes, Princess Anne is not an Infanta.
Wasnt the duKe of Calabria created an Infante by the King in recognition for being the heir to spain at one time? That might explain why his wife is not an infanta
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Why is she called a princess, if this title is reserved for the Princess of Asturias.
Princess Anne is French born Princess ,her husband was only created an Infante of Spain in December 1994.

The King did not make Anne an Infanta by marriage perhaps out of deference to her mother inlaw,Infanta Alica,Dowager Duchess of Calabria.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:10 AM
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Wasnt the duKe of Calabria created an Infante by the King in recognition for being the heir to spain at one time? That might explain why his wife is not an infanta
Both of the King's sisters renounced their Succession rights before they married,if this is deemed valid under the present Spanish constitution the Duke of Calabria would be next inline after the children & grandchildren of King Juan Carlos I.

Infante Alfonso, Duke of Calabria (The father of Infante Carlos) was heir-presumptive to the Spanish crown (1904-1907) until the birth of his cousin Alfonso,Prince of Asturias. Infante Alfonso was the only son of Mercedes, Princess of Asturias who was a daughter of Alfonso XII.

I must point out that Infante Carlos is not currently named on the Spanish line of Succession which is limited to only the heirs of King Juan Carlos I.
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The title of "Infante" or "Infanta" comes from the word for children - infantes. It means a prince or princess born of the blood royal. In former times it included the meaning Infante/Infanta of Spain as being the property of the souverain. The same goes for France where the Prince and Princesses of the blood were called the "Enfants de France".
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:57 AM
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Why is she called a princess, if this title is reserved for the Princess of Asturias.
Because her title is not Spanish. She was born a Princess of France and married a Prince of the Two-Sicilies and that's why she's a Princess, it has nothing to do with her husband being an Infante.

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Wasnt the duKe of Calabria created an Infante by the King in recognition for being the heir to spain at one time? That might explain why his wife is not an infanta
As An Ard Ri explained the heir was his father and not don Carlos. In any case it doesn't matter if he was created an Infante or if he had been born an Infante (as the King's brother, for example), his wife wouldn't be an infanta unless the King created her an infanta. Besides the title of Queen Consort, the only title shared after marriage in the Spanish Royal Family is that of Pince or Princess of Asturias.
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Isn't an infanta just the Spanish version of a princess and isn't an infanta a higher title than princess?
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Isn't an infanta just the Spanish version of a princess and isn't an infanta a higher title than princess?
Infante also anglicised as Infant, is the title and rank given in the European kingdoms of Spain and Portugal to the sons or daughters of the King who were not the heir to the throne. Prince and Princess are titles for the heir to the throne, and his wife or vice versa.

The current Infantas of Spain (by birth). are:
  • Infanta Elena, Duchess of Lugo (eldest daughter of Juan Carlos and Sofía, King and Queen of Spain);
  • Infanta Cristina, Duchess of Palma de Mallorca (youngest daughter of Juan Carlos and Sofía, King and Queen of Spain);
  • Infanta Leonor of Spain (eldest daughter of Felipe and Letizia, Princes of Asturias);
  • Infanta Sofia of Spain (younger daughter of Felipe and Letizia, Princes of Asturias);
  • Infanta Pilar, Duchess of Badajoz (eldest sister of King Juan Carlos of Spain);
  • Infanta Margarita, Duchess of Soria (youngest sister of King Juan Carlos of Spain);
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Infante also anglicised as Infant, is the title and rank given in the European kingdoms of Spain and Portugal to the sons or daughters of the King who were not the heir to the throne. Prince and Princess are titles for the heir to the throne, and his wife or vice versa.

The current Infantas of Spain (by birth). are:
  • Infanta Elena, Duchess of Lugo (eldest daughter of Juan Carlos and Sofía, King and Queen of Spain);
  • Infanta Cristina, Duchess of Palma de Mallorca (youngest daughter of Juan Carlos and Sofía, King and Queen of Spain);
  • Infanta Leonor of Spain (eldest daughter of Felipe and Letizia, Princes of Asturias);
  • Infanta Sofia of Spain (younger daughter of Felipe and Letizia, Princes of Asturias);
  • Infanta Pilar, Duchess of Badajoz (eldest sister of King Juan Carlos of Spain);
  • Infanta Margarita, Duchess of Soria (youngest sister of King Juan Carlos of Spain);
And Infanta Alicia, Dowager Duchess of Calabria (mother of Infante Carlos)
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And Infanta Alicia, Dowager Duchess of Calabria (mother of Infante Carlos)
And widow of the King's uncle Infante Alfonso, Duke of Calabria (a grandson of Alfonso XII).
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Isn't an infanta just the Spanish version of a princess and isn't an infanta a higher title than princess?
They are the same. Prince Felipe will be a King one day, and then Infanta Leonor (if she doesn't have a brother or the law is changed) will be the Princess of Asturias and her sister will remain Infanta.
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The only people titled Prince and Princess in Spain are the Prince and Princess of Asturias. Felipes daughters, his sisters and his aunts are titled as Infantas of Spain.
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Yes, but in what way Juan Carlos could claim the titles of Habsburgs, as he is not descended from them in male-line and the house of Habsburg is extant.
If I understand what has been said they are titles that historically goes with the title of King of Spain
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What will be leonore title?
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What will be leonore title?
Now she will become Princess of Asturias
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