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Old 03-31-2013, 09:55 AM
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So they couldn't attend at these kind of family events at all? Probably the press would then write quite negative stories about Felipe, Letizia and their girls. Just a few days ago there were complaints in spanish press that Felipe and Letizia don't show their daughters in public as much as the heirs in the other countries.
When did I say they couldn't attend family events? At no point so I don't know why you are directing that question at me.

It's the body language that makes me uncomfortable. Pushing little girls forward to make them the focus. And watching the video it seems clear to me that little Sofia didn't want to kiss those strangers but was being put forward by her parents. Similarly why are the girls handed off to their grandmother. I love that they are close however in this public appearance they are front and centre with the Queen, taking the focus off the lack of a King.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:14 AM
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I don't see from the video that the girls are pushed to be at the focus, they are simply showed to the right direction. And maybe it isn't so nice to kiss these strangers, but it is polite and the girls will have to learn it anyway. It is sometimes tough for them, that they are not "normal" children. Felipe looked like he didn't want to pose for photos after greeting the priests but the photographers wanted it and he knew it was better to do so. The royal family can't risk any more negative press at this point.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:42 AM
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Leonor looks like a lady! And wow, the dresse/shoes Leonor and Sofia wore are BEAUTIFUL!
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:17 AM
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The girls are cute, no question, but for me its too much in terms of picture perfect girlie-girlie styling, as if they were coming straight out of a model catalogue, like living barbie dolls. Personally I prefer the Irene Urdangarin rather tomboy style.

Of course the girls are now being used for image reasons, all royal families do this (eg take a look at Sweden), and the SRF are pretty desperate this days. The girls are owned by the crown, its ok that Sofia has her hands on them and they have to learn to deal with the dignitaries.

The girls are too young to go against something, they do as they are told, at least for now. Question is, do they want to walk around like a perfect barbie girl when they are getting older, learn to think and find their own personality. Leonor obviously seems be keen to please everybody, a good feature for her as future Queen, but I see some rebel potential in Sofia.

OK, and now I go hiding under my chair
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:31 AM
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The girls are cute, no question, but for me its too much in terms of picture perfect girlie-girlie styling, as if they were coming straight out of a model catalogue, like living barbie dolls. Personally I prefer the Irene Urdangarin rather tomboy style.

Of course the girls are now being used for image reasons, all royal families do this (eg take a look at Sweden), and the SRF are pretty desperate this days. The girls are owned by the crown, its ok that Sofia has her hands on them and they have to learn to deal with the dignitaries.

The girls are too young to go against something, they do as they are told, at least for now. Question is, do they want to walk around like a perfect barbie girl when they are getting older, learn to think and find their own personality. Leonor obviously seems be keen to please everybody, a good feature for her as future Queen, but I see some rebel potential in Sofia.

OK, and now I go hiding under my chair
I agree completely! Just comparing to other families such as Denmark or Norway the children seem a bit more free and easy.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:56 PM
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That´s the beauty of the difference of opinions.

I for one don´t like at all the "tomboy" kind of girls that other people seem to prefer. I´ve said many times before that I like Leo and Sofi this way, well-behaved and calmed and not running around or making faces to the cameras.

I don´t understand the comparisons with the Danish and Norwegian children, they are different children, from different families and different cultures, and they obviously have been educated very diferently. And I prefer Leonor´s and Sofia´s ways for sure.

If I had a daughter, I would like her to be exactly like Leonor, instead of, for example, Isabella of Denmark, who seems a lovely child but who honestly sometimes gets on my nerves with her exaggerated behaviour.
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But each child is as he is, I guess, so I will have to conform myself with what I get and deal with it

Now, I´m going to look for another chair to hide myself under
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For what my old opinon is worth, I certainly do not like a "tom-boy" dress code for church.
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For what my old opinon is worth, I certainly do not like a "tom-boy" dress code for church.
I do not know what a "tom-boy" dress looks like, and less I do not understand why a girl should dress like a boy to go to church or anywhere. I think the infantas appear to be normal and beautiful girls and each in their own way already give us a glimpse into their own personalities and preferences. Their parents are doing a great job in bringing them up in their roles as royals.

Well . . .and I am not going to hide under the chair, but will enjoy my afternoon cup of tea
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Now, that is something for the RF to be worried about, not how their little ones dress or behave
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I do not know what a "tom-boy" dress looks like, and less I do not understand why a girl should dress like a boy to go to church or anywhere. I think the infantas appear to be normal and beautiful girls and each in their own way already give us a glimpse into their own personalities and preferences. Their parents are doing a great job in bringing them up in their roles as royals.

Well . . .and I am not going to hide under the chair, but will enjoy my afternoon cup of tea
I agree with you. The Infantas appear to be properly indoctrinated into proper apperance and behaviour. It is the behavior of children that are raised with loving parents that teach the children what it expected when you are out in public, royal or not.
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I like the strong sister unity Leonor and Sofia seem to have. Leonor is a very gracious girl, and Sofia is lovely in an other way. To me it seems that the girls are a part of a very loving family with grandparents and aunts.
The spanish culture and religion is totally different than those in Scandinavia, and they should not be compared. But I think that if the children are at the churchyard, they should behave exactly the way Leonor and Sofia are doing. All children don't have to be rebellious.
I don't think that the girls are styled "picture perfect". In Almagro they had normal every day outfits. When you go to a Mass you of course dress differently.
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It's probably a cultural thing. I love my sister dearly but to imagine my parents would have dressed us up like this and we would have to walk to church holding hands gives me the creeps.

Looking at these girls, I find them completely controlled/instructed, like child actors following a script. Having said that, this family and those girls are anything but normal. I guess Leonor & Sofia don't have some proper sibling fights because they have so much that there is nothing to fight about. They grow up in a family where image is everything and when I see those pictures I have to think of - although some part may be genuine - this fake family ethic of the SRF, to smile and give a fake appearance no matter what is going on in the background. In that respect, Sofia sr. is the best of all teachers to transform those girls into actresses and I don't blame them, since they wouldn't know any different.

Only time will tell if they are happy to spend their future life acting, its just that I will always prefer genuineness, even though it comes along with certain flaws.

Just to add, other royal families are similar, its only the the Spanish take it to the extreme.
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The girls look beautiful & I love their spring outfits. It would've been nice to also see their cousins in the picture like the past.
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It's probably a cultural thing. I love my sister dearly but to imagine my parents would have dressed us up like this and we would have to walk to church holding hands gives me the creeps.
I, on the contrary, find it perfectly normal, since my sister and I used to be dressed up for the important events and we used to hold hands when we were walking next to our parents (my sister and I had a bigger age difference, though, which can explain it better).

I think that to be dressed up, even alike, and holding hands is a pretty common image on kids here. That reminds me a photo of Leonor in Almagro last week. It seems that they were talking with a family with two little girls. As you can see, both girls are dressed alike, with beautiful dresses and cardigans and bows in their hair, just as Leonor and Sofia are. And they´re normal girls and their parents probably didn´t now that they were to meet the princes and to be photographed, so no image questions here Just a Saturday´s walk of a normal family in a little town in Spain

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Same with the girl with her skirt and boots here, this one more modern-looking but not what I call a "tom-boy" style:
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In fact, Leonor looks the worst dressed in both pictures
Of course, it isn´t like if Spanish children are dressed like that in their everyday lives. They wear confortable, less fashionable clothes most of the time (Leo and Sof also does, remember Almagro and the visit to their grandad at the hospital, for example), but Spanish parents (mostly mothers, I think ) love to dress up their children from time to time.

And if normal families do that, how wouldn´t the CP couple for an Easter Mass during which they know that they´re going to be photographed and appear in the media?
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From experience I'd say that Letizia is lucky in that respect that she has two girls, if she had two boys, I guess it would be a different matter, they are much harder to control (eg Froilan, William, Harry).

Irene Urdangarin is growing up with three older brothers, therefore a different type of girl.

I agree that it is important that the sisters have a close bond, they'll need it. At some point they will realize that they are not equal and that Sofia will have to find her own path in life without jeopardizing her sister's path (like QEII & Princess Marget who were always close despite a problematic adult life).
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