Future and Popularity of the Spanish Monarchy


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Glad to see Queen Letizia's approval figures increasing ,back in 2018 she polled behind King Juan Carlos which was not at all good.
 
Denville said:
From the little I've seen of Q Sofia, she's pretty right wing and rather pushy, like that time she was insisting on her grandchildren having their pics taken with her... I thought that was rather odd and pushy behaviour...
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Sofia is a woman of strong views, particularly traditional Catholic views. She made her feelings about same sex marriage known to her biographer.

With regards to the Palma incident I think it was a natural reflex from Sofia as Queen and grandmother. She simply put her arms around her grandchildren and made to pose for the photographers at the Cathedral which was something she had done with her own children and grandchildren for years. She didn't count on Letizia's very public over-reaction.
 
Denville said:
From the little I've seen of Q Sofia, she's pretty right wing and rather pushy, like that time she was insisting on her grandchildren having their pics taken with her... I thought that was rather odd and pushy behaviour...
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She is the most popular and most loved member of the Spanish royal family. And not only this year, but for years and years. That Doña Sofía is more popular and loved than the King and Queen shows that Felipe & Letizia do not have that "touch" Don Juan Carlos and Doña Sofía had. The old King totally blew it all up for himself, but how often have we not heard that Spaniards are no royalists but juancarlistas. Hard to imagine now but the old King had an extremely good rapport with the Spaniards.

I had a discussion about it with Spanish expats and they said: Felipe lacks a Máxima. What Máxima did to the boring and easy to overlook, amoprh figure of a WA, that magic is lacking with Letizia, whom does not have that spontaneity, that infectious laughter, charm and goodwill, instantly winning the public.
 
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Duke of Marmalade said:
Leonor has been born into this life, that should help. To me, Felipe is absolutely genuine, the way his parents have groomed him to be King, both absolutely committed to keep the throne.

I think Sofia is different to Letizia, she was born royal herself, her brother lost a throne, and she only knows life that is sacrificed for duty, starting with her marriage.

Letizia spent half her life as a private and free person, and while she is publicly totally committed, I think some of her comments show how frustrated she must be at times, because she has no other choice but to pull through but knows a different, more carefree life that Felipe doesn't.

To publicly say that Leonor will do what she has to do, not what she wants to do, I don't think Sofia would have said the same thing about Felipe. Same goes for some comments about the media or the famous Mallorca comment, do you think this is vacation?
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Yes, the fact that Leonor was already born in this life helps a lot.
I have read several statements from people who knew Letizia before she married Felipe and most of those people say that they do not recognize her and that she is now completely different from what she was before.
Letizia is fully integrated into the institution and I sincerely think she likes the life she has now and is completely committed to preparing her daughter for the role that awaits her as Princess of Asturias and future Queen.
People are already starting to look at Letizia in another way and that's a good thing.
 
Blog Real said:
Yes, the fact that Leonor was already born in this life helps a lot.
I have read several statements from people who knew Letizia before she married Felipe and most of those people say that they do not recognize her and that she is now completely different from what she was before.
Letizia is fully integrated into the institution and I sincerely think she likes the life she has now and is completely committed to preparing her daughter for the role that awaits her as Princess of Asturias and future Queen.
People are already starting to look at Letizia in another way and that's a good thing.
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Máxima was not born into it, never lived in a monarchy even, became accidentally paired to a Prince and from the first bang the completely unprepared Argentinean became the most loved member of the royal family.

Don Felipe and the Infantas were all born into it and do not generate similar warmth or enthusiasm. It is very difficult to deduct what exactly touches people.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
Máxima was not born into it, never lived in a monarchy even, became accidentally paired to a Prince and from the first bang the completely unprepared Argentinean became the most loved member of the royal family.

Don Felipe and the Infantas were all born into it and do not generate similar warmth or enthusiasm. It is very difficult to deduct what exactly touches people.
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Felipe VI is very popular and even Letizia is already more accepted by the Spanish.
If you notice, in the recent visits that made to some areas of Spain the Kings and daughters were very applauded and cries of "cheers to the king" were heard.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
Máxima was not born into it, never lived in a monarchy even, became accidentally paired to a Prince and from the first bang the completely unprepared Argentinean became the most loved member of the royal family.

Don Felipe and the Infantas were all born into it and do not generate similar warmth or enthusiasm. It is very difficult to deduct what exactly touches people.
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Difficult, indeed. Almost impossible. Surely the fact that we talk about two absolute different countries with complete different citizens has nothing to do with it.

I beg to differ with your Spanish acquaitances in regard of whether "a Maxima" is what was needed in Spain. I'm pretty much sure she would have been subjected to the very same level of scrutinity and criticism and, let's call it "contrary popular predisposition" than any other public figure here, and of course than Letizia, who is her direct counterpar. My fellow Spaniards love to have strong opinions about "what is needed". In presence of some beers and food on a table with people listening to, that can even achieve the level of lecture. But, when reality hits, then they are never happy with what they got. And "the grass is greener behind the neighbour's walls" is also quite a basic for common thinking here, so I take it with a grain of salt all those opinions about how everytjing, anything, is always better abroad. Correction: everything but food.
 
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Voices in defense of the Monarchy
ABC collects testimonies from personalities who support Spain's current political system and the King's figure as head of state: "A modernization force that is the safeguarding of freedoms in Spain".

https://www.abc.es/espana/casa-real/voces-en-defensa-de-la-monarquia/

https://www.abc.es/espana/casa-real...arquia-republicana-ni-republica-coronada.html

https://www.abc.es/espana/casa-real/voces-en-defensa-de-la-monarquia/espana-no-es-diferente.html

https://www.abc.es/espana/casa-real...-monarquia-parlamentaria-dio-estabilidad.html

https://www.abc.es/opinion/abci-unica-espana-posible-202010102330_noticia.html

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No surprise here. The Spanish establishment is mostly monarchist.
 
A very large majority of citizens support the institutional role played by Felipe VI. According to a survey prepared by Metroscopia between December 11 and 14, in scandals affecting Juan Carlos I and coinciding with the rejection of Podemos (also within the Government of Spain) and the main groups of the left and nationalists, the figure of the head of state has not only not been affected, but is reinforced. Around 74 of the citizens (three out of four) he looks with good eyes at how King Felipe plays his part.

www.elconfidencial.com/amp/espana/2020-12-18/felipe-vi-respaldo-74-por-ciento-ciudadanos-encuesta-metroscopia_2878991/
 
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Wrapped the Royal House in the personal and financial scandals of Juan Carlos, on his departure from Spain and attacked from a second vice presidency belligerently republican, the Monarchy resurfaces. This is apparent from the data from the latest SOCIOMetric Survey for EL ESPAÑOL, which show that if there was a referendum tomorrow, 66.9% of the Spaniards would vote for the Monarchy, compared to 28.3% who would vote for the Republic.

www.elespanol.com/espana/politica/20201227/crece-fuerza-monarquia-mayoria-juan-carlos-emerito/546445793_0.amp.html
 
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Leonor will become Queen according to 54% of Spaniards.

The Crown has been strengthened despite the controversies and the political campaign against it, and this is demonstrated by the data from the Sociometric Survey for EL ESPAÑOL. According to the survey, 54.2% of respondents believe that the Princess of Asturias will become Queen of Spain.

https://www.elespanol.com/espana/po...s-incluida-votantes-psoe/546695806_0.amp.html
 
Indeed not very massive majority but in other hand Spanish monarchy had always pretty low popularity compared to other current European monarchies. But when I don't understand Spanish I am not sure what exactly is asked. It too seems that there is good percentage of people who haven't told or hadn't any options.
 
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Queen Letizia's delightful aunt Henar Ortiz also retweeted this earlier.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
https://www.dpa-international.com/t...-urn:newsml:dpa.com:20090101:210217-99-471123

Violent protests in Spanish region after the police arrests a rapper who had been sentenced to serve a controversial 3 1/2 year prison term for verbally attacking the police and the Emeritus King Juan Carlos, calling him and the Borbon family 'thieves', in his song lyrics.
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It is framed as "anti-monarchy" but his lyrics are also glorifying terrorism and tries to stir up extreme violence against the police. But because there is an anti-monarchy sauce over this, suddenly the "artist" is a "hero".


:whistling:
 
An Ard Ri said:
I wasn't aware that the Spanish Monarchy had low popularity at the moment?
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Since 1936 (the Spanish Civil War) the monarchy has always been contested. Under Franco the monarchy was not abolished, there was only a sede vacante but that automatically meant the royal family was in the Franco camp.


It still fumes progressive Spaniards and expecially the Spaniards living in regions with a strong tendence towards autonomy.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
It is framed as "anti-monarchy" but his lyrics are also glorifying terrorism and tries to stir up extreme violence against the police. But because there is an anti-monarchy sauce over this, suddenly the "artist" is a "hero".

:whistling:
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Exactly, insults to the King are the least serious of his sentence. In several of his messages he wants several politicians to be shot in the neck and their cars to explode.

In 2014 he had a 2-year prison sentence for apology of terrorism, the minimum to avoid going to jail. And in 2018 he was sentenced to 9 months in jail and a fine for apology of terrorism and attack on the Police and the king. After the second sentence, he must enter prison.

He also has prior convictions for assault on the authority and trespassing.
 
Zarzuela, Moncloa and PP already secretly negotiate the future of the Monarchy

Jaime Alfonsín (Head of the Royal House), Carmen Calvo (First Deputy Prime Minister of Spain) and a representative of Pablo Casado (PP) have held meetings to advance transparency measures.

La Zarzuela, La Moncloa and PP began negotiating just over a month ago, with discretion, the future of the Monarchy of Felipe VI, to provide it with a "less opaque profile", according to sources known to this process. The first meetings have already taken place, both bilaterally between the Government and the King's House, and three bands with a person linked to the PP, although not in the active policy and designated by Pablo Casado. PSOE and PP refuse to regulate the activities of the King's House with a Crown Law, and focus on transparency and control measures. The pact will be closed only between the Socialists and the popular.
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https://elpais.com/espana/2021-03-1...-ya-en-secreto-el-futuro-de-la-monarquia.html
 
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Does anyone here know what the positions of the new Right wing party leader are pertaining to the monarchy and King Felipe..?
 
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Pablo Casado, the current leader of the right, supports the monarchy and the constitution.
 
Blog Real said:
Zarzuela, Moncloa and PP already secretly negotiate the future of the Monarchy

Jaime Alfonsín (Head of the Royal House), Carmen Calvo (First Deputy Prime Minister of Spain) and a representative of Pablo Casado (PP) have held meetings to advance transparency measures.


https://elpais.com/espana/2021-03-1...-ya-en-secreto-el-futuro-de-la-monarquia.html
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Art.65 of the Spanish constitution pretty much gives the King personal control over the Royal Household's finances and staff. Any attempt to further regulate that by law would require a constitutional amendment, which is unlikely.
 
Blog Real said:
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Pablo Casado, the current leader of the right, supports the monarchy and the constitution.
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Interesting. I was referring though to Isabel Diaz Ayuso, who has gathered the press attention in the latter days.. I understand she represents the 'new right' in Spain; is she also a committed monarchist?
 
tamta said:
Interesting. I was referring though to Isabel Diaz Ayuso, who has gathered the press attention in the latter days.. I understand she represents the 'new right' in Spain; is she also a committed monarchist?
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Isabel Diaz Ayuso also defends the monarchy and the constitution.
 
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