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Some Spanish support HRH Don Carlos Javier of Bourbon-Parme as future King of Spain:


Carlos Javier II reclama el trono de Espaņa a Felipe VI Elmunicipio.es - Por una sociedad de hombres libres

Congress votes in favor of abdication law | In English | EL PAÍS

Is the future Felipe VI "the first lay and republican King of Christianity"?

Felipe VI, primer rey laico-republicano de la Cristiandad - El Manifiesto
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:25 AM
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Unpopular Princess Letizia faces hurdles in becoming Spain's queen - Washington Times
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:37 AM
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Will the Grandee of Spain curtesing Her ?
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:44 AM
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Will the Grandee of Spain courtesy Her
They SHOULD, and i hope they will.. She will be their Queen, and is the choice of their King !
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They SHOULD, and i hope they will.. She will be their Queen, and is the choice of their King !
Making a bow, a handkiss or a curtsey is always optional, never an obligation. Anyone who wants to give a handshake, no matter a Grande de Espaņa or not, is perfectly right to do so, without any offense.

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At their first public appearance after their engagement, Letizia interrupted her prince and told him --- in front of the media --- to let her finish a sentence, a faux pas that hasn't been forgotten.

Cannot Letizia's past be left alone?
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The last few sentences of that article were the most interesting - how once she is Queen she will no longer have to prove herself and will relax. Food for thought there, will be interesting to see it that happens.
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I read in a Norwegian newspaper that support for the monarchy has increased in recent days, is there anyone who can answer me if this is correct?
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I wonder now if the media will be treating her like they did before she became Queen Letizia..........they were down right cruel and hateful at times. I hope she has a very long memory and puts them in their place without them even knowing it until it's to late.
And just who do the media think they are...........kings and queens, their jealousy is showing!
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:46 AM
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I think how Letizia is perceived as Queen largely rests on Queen Sofia. If she remains high profile then Letizia will always be seen as the "lesser queen" and Sofia the de facto Queen.

It's a hard one because I also think that Sofia's input could be invaluable for the new regent couple so, who knows.
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I heard somewhere that a poll that came out on the eve of Felipe's inauguration gave an exact 50-50 tie between monarchists and republicans in the country.. Can anyone confirm..?
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I wonder now if the media will be treating her like they did before she became Queen Letizia..........they were down right cruel and hateful at times. I hope she has a very long memory and puts them in their place without them even knowing it until it's to late.
And just who do the media think they are...........kings and queens, their jealousy is showing!
The media has not always been fair to Letizia, that is certainly true. But the very last thing in the world Letizia should be doing is putting anyone "in their place" and trying to even old scores like some female Spanish Richard Nixon. The position of the monarchy-and by extension her own and her childrens' positions-has never been more vulnerable than right now. She needs to be walking a perfect tightrope to convey dignity, humility and self-assurance.

Her enemies in Spain have labeled her arrogant and cold. She should under no circumstance give them room to add "vengeful". As a former journalist herself, one of the things I have never understood is why Letizia's former colleagues in the press are some of her worst critics now. Intelligence, skill, and commitment to her new responsibilities will go much further than planning out revenge on her detractors,imo.
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Thank You MoonMaiden: Your so right, It's just that I really see RED when it comes to her being mashed around like she is dirt, she was in this field, it was her career and she worked hard to get here. She has worked very hard for Spain and the media knows this, she has not put one foot wrong since she married Felipe and has had to put up with so much hate/negative comments over the years. That was my anger talking and I should really think before I speak or write sometimes....lolololo and many times I don't. This is her time now, and she knows her enemies and these 2, Letizia and Felipe are great together, they are strong, supportive of each other, and deeply in love and devoted to their 2 lovely girls............just wishing them the very best for this will not be an easy road to them to travel for sometime.
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Thank You MoonMaiden: Your so right, It's just that I really see RED when it comes to her being mashed around like she is dirt, she was in this field, it was her career and she worked hard to get here. She has worked very hard for Spain and the media knows this, she has not put one foot wrong since she married Felipe and has had to put up with so much hate/negative comments over the years. That was my anger talking and I should really think before I speak or write sometimes....lolololo and many times I don't. This is her time now, and she knows her enemies and these 2, Letizia and Felipe are great together, they are strong, supportive of each other, and deeply in love and devoted to their 2 lovely girls............just wishing them the very best for this will not be an easy road to them to travel for sometime.
Very well said, MoonMaiden and SElizabeth.
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I am looking positive into the Spanish Royal Future, since I have seen the crowds in the streets at the proclamation yesterday. Sooooo many People..... I did not expect THIS impressive amount of supporters. Great!
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Cannot Letizia's past be left alone?
It makes an interesting story for readers, and an easy one as the journalist just copies and pastes what has been written before. But they do the same with Maxima and her father, Harry and his Nazi salute, MM the single mum etc. Letizia isn't the only one with this problem.

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I am looking positive into the Spanish Royal Future, since I have seen the crowds in the streets at the proclamation yesterday. Sooooo many People..... I did not expect THIS impressive amount of supporters. Great!
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And don't forget a lot of people had left Madrid since it was holyday. Also many people didn't know there would be a ride through the city after the proclamation, and those who live in the outskirts could not get there on time.

In any case, I'm glad some of you got the opportunity to see that "other Spain", the majority that exists but doesn't make the headlines.
It's usually the most radical groups (republican, in this case) the ones that get all the exposure, since they are the ones who take on the streets and make noise.

I haven't done any survey, but as an insider I get the impression that most people either support the monarchy, or would prefer a republic but are still ok with monarchy if it is modern/austere/transparent. Or directly, they don't care because they think both systems are pretty much the same.
Only a minority is really against the monarchy/angry enough about it to take on the streets. And even then, they only "remember" to do it in specific ocassions, like when a scandal comes out, or this one with the King's abdication.
They protest about many things anyway. The monarchy is just another tiny part of their agenda.
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I am sure many Catholics have no intention to support this Head of State who avoids to have anything to do with the Catholic faith of the majority of the Spanish people.
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I am sure many Catholics have no intention to support this Head of State who avoids to have anything to do with the Catholic faith of the majority of the Spanish people.
Ok, then what about the other people who are not Catholic?

The constituition of Spain clearly say His Majesty The King, and no longer His Catholic Majesty The King.
I think that this way, it will be better for all kind of people you know, without discriminating anyone, and be King of ALL Spaniards. Those who are Catholic and those who aren't. Be fair and respectfull to all. After all, he is not the King of Catholic people, but I repeat the King of ALL Spaniards.
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Those who are Catholic have no interest to support such a Head of State who does not really continue the traditions of the Royal House of Bourbon.
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