Future and Popularity of the Spanish Monarchy


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Felipe, as Prince, was not independent ... he did not have his own independent team with his own financial allowance ... everything was controlled by the team of King Juan Carlos. As king, Felipe has recovered people who had his confidence as a prince, and Juan Carlos decided to fire.

Another thing is that between the princes of his generation, he had a higher political profile... but the team of Juan Carlos and the Government marked the guidelines.

King Juan Carlos took several years to reinforce the staffed of Felipe, for Letizia to have an independent activity.

In addition, Queen Sofia and the infantas had their own teams that took decades working in Zarzuela... they did not accept well the arrival of Letizia. The number of events was always very measured so that Letizia had no more than Queen Sofia.
 
but one good thing was whatever image n charisma felipe got, he earned it entirely on his own, unlike the dutch and danish heirs who, for most of the time, merely tagged along their exotic wives...
haakon is another one who came closer..sadly here his wife only manages to lower even his image..
charles had to do it 3-fold..get to zero level from the deep negative, then rise totally on his own, then get his second wife there as well..
the last two are out of topic, but in this context they just come to mind.
Finally what i wanna say is felipe can be definitely graded "very good" heir..
 
:previous:So why aren't the pro-monarchists counter demonstrating against these people? This makes all the rosy, glowing news articles about Felipe's 70% approval rating and how he has restored faith in the institution in one year seem like a mockery. What is really going on in Spain?:ohmy:

My personal opinion is that King Felipe has made a valiant effort but the handwriting is on the wall. Maybe it's a good thing after all that he and Letizia do not seem to be preparing their Heir for her future role:sad:.
 
The pro-independency blocks won a mojority of the seats but got under 50% votes what means they would have failed in a referendum (which it wasn't).

Separatists Win Majority of Seats in Catalan Vote, but Mandate Is Uncertain - WSJ

IMO the point is not really independence but to get mayor concessions out of Madrid for the region.

I will get really interesting with the general elections in December, when Rajoy faces to be voted out of presidency, a far-leftist goverment could mean more problems for the monarchy as well:

Many already expect the elections to result in a significant overhaul of Spanish politics, as Citizens and another emerging force, the far-left Podemos party, are preparing to challenge the longstanding two-party dominance of Mr. Rajoy’s Popular Party and the main opposition Socialists.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/w...lve-fight-over-catalonias-direction.html?_r=0
 
Why should they protest in favor of the monarchy? The monarchy is under no threat, it is only a very vocal minority of people who want to get rid of the king. As I said before: remember the enormous crowds on the streets when Felipe was sworn in? Much more than this bunch of professional protesters.

I would say that there are more pressing matters to protest about in Spain at the moment. Though I suppose for demagogic seperatists, the king is a representative of ties with Madrid. So populistic parties want to get rid of that unifying element.
 
Anti-monarchy protesters have taken to the streets of the Spanish capital, Madrid, amid growing calls for a referendum to abolish the system. The rally comes as pro-independence parties in the Spanish region of Catalonia claimed victory in regional parliamentary elections.

PressTV-Spaniards hold anti-monarchy protest
Catalonia elections set separatists on collision course - CNN.com
Huge anti-monarchy demo held in Spain

The separatist list Junts per El Sí actually won only 40 % of the popular vote in Catalonia and failed to gain a majority in the Catalan parliament. Together with CUP, a smaller independentist party, they would have a majority of seats, but not a majority of the popular vote. CUP, however, has already said it wil not support the Catalan government's plan to initiate a constitutional process in preparation for a unilateral secession from Spain as the party believes the election results do not give them a popular mandate to do that.

In other words, the Catalan elections ended up being a blow to the independentist cause. In the long run though, I still see a reform of the Spanish constitution that will move the country closer to a federal model like in Belgium for example, The monarchy on the other hand is reasonably secure as none of the parties in the position to form the next national government is calling for a republic.
 
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Anti-monarchy protesters have taken to the streets of the Spanish capital, Madrid, amid growing calls for a referendum to abolish the system. The rally comes as pro-independence parties in the Spanish region of Catalonia claimed victory in regional parliamentary elections.

PressTV-Spaniards hold anti-monarchy protest
Catalonia elections set separatists on collision course - CNN.com
Huge anti-monarchy demo held in Spain


1) Not that many people in these protests anyway.
2) It's the Podemos people, who are trying to use the turbulence of the news from the regional elections in Catalonia to push their own agenda of 'regime-change' and 'state transformation'.. I don't think they have even a relative majority of Spaniards on their side; in any case national elections are around the corned and it will all show there.
3) Monarchists shouldn't worry that easily; it takes more than that to change an established regime. The Bourbons remain popular in most of the country, and most people realize that the level and quality of life that Spain has had for over a generation would not have been the same without them.
 
I am surprised to see articles about the anti-monarchy demonstrations. Based on the posts in this thread, I thought that King Felipe and his spouse won the support.
 
think the Spanish monarchy is not in danger. King Philip VI and Queen Letizia are very popular, such as the monarchy.
 
I am surprised to see articles about the anti-monarchy demonstrations. Based on the posts in this thread, I thought that King Felipe and his spouse won the support.

I share the sense of confusion. :huh:

News analysis I have read outside the Royal Forum seems to see an end to the monarchy at some point. :ermm: I have no idea what is the case, I just know what I have read over my morning coffee. Saw this thread, haven't read it in full, just the last few posts.
 
In every country in the world there are people who want to overthrow the political system, be it republicans in monarchies, anarchists, libertarians...Those photos show a dozen people at most and haven't made any news in Spain, they present no threat to the monarchy, that's why statistics (from trustworthy and respected sources) exist, because an anecdotal 12 people don't represent the country, and in free societies people are able to protest and demonstrate against the status quo. I can assure you that republican organizations hold rallies and meetings in every European monarchy.
 
In every country in the world there are people who want to overthrow the political system, be it republicans in monarchies, anarchists, libertarians...Those photos show a dozen people at most and haven't made any news in Spain, they present no threat to the monarchy, that's why statistics (from trustworthy and respected sources) exist, because an anecdotal 12 people don't represent the country, and in free societies people are able to protest and demonstrate against the status quo. I can assure you that republican organizations hold rallies and meetings in every European monarchy.

Thanks for the comment. I am portguês and wish everything goes for the best of the monarchy in Spain.:flowers:
 
In every country in the world there are people who want to overthrow the political system, be it republicans in monarchies, anarchists, libertarians...Those photos show a dozen people at most and haven't made any news in Spain, they present no threat to the monarchy, that's why statistics (from trustworthy and respected sources) exist, because an anecdotal 12 people don't represent the country, and in free societies people are able to protest and demonstrate against the status quo. I can assure you that republican organizations hold rallies and meetings in every European monarchy.

Thank you for your opinions. Plus, since you are actually from Spain, I believe you have a proper handle on the current situation. Would take your viewpoint over medias agenda any day.
 
Can someone explain to the rest who don't know much about Spanish politics what do the results of yesterday's election mean for the new royal couple and its prospects?
 
None of the parties have on their agenda to abolish the SRF. For the first time post-Franco, the 2 party system has been cracked.
It will be difficult though to form a working government, and Felipe will have an important role as kind of mediator to help:
King Felipe will now play a key role in negotiations to vote in a prime minister
There will be new elections if a leader is not found two months after first round of voting

Spanish election 2015: What happens now if there’s no majority to form a government? | In English | EL PAÍS
 
None of the parties have on their agenda to abolish the SRF.


Not even the Podemos..? I thought they were behind the rallies against the monarchy when Juan Carlos resigned.. I have heard members of that party talking about the monarchy with least favorable words -at least until some time ago.. Has that changed/been mitigated at all..?
 
None of the parties have on their agenda to abolish the SRF. For the first time post-Franco, the 2 party system has been cracked.
It will be difficult though to form a working government, and Felipe will have an important role as kind of mediator to help:
King Felipe will now play a key role in negotiations to vote in a prime minister
There will be new elections if a leader is not found two months after first round of voting

Spanish election 2015: What happens now if there’s no majority to form a government? | In English | EL PAÍS

I will admit that I know nothing about Spanish politics so please forgive my ignorance, what caught my eye in your comment was what I highlighted above. How many political parties are there in Spain and if there was only 2 before, how were they cracked? And how many political parties are there now? And how if there are more then 2 parties, how were the other parties formed and how were they put on the ballot? This is really interesting to me.

You mentioned that if no leader is found in 2 months, there will be another election........who does the voting in that election, the people or just the members of the political parties and how many candidates run, one from each party or more? Thank you!
 
Maybe in the long run Podemos would plan a referendum on the monarchy but right now this is the very last thing on people's minds and agendas. Felipe hasn't put a foot wrong, he has an important role to play now, the situation is not easy and people are looking to him to fill out his role as mediator but of course it is limited and he has to stay impartial.
There is a danger that Spain will become 'ungovernable' and will go into very unstable times. Since Franco Spain has been ruled by 2 parties only, PP and PSOE, only since the crisis people were looking for alternatives. Podemos for example was only founded in March 2014.
PP with Rajoy got most votes so he wants to be in the lead to form a government but the other parties will try to block this. A great coalition seems out of question.
Some more info here:
Spanish general election 2015: As it happened | In English | EL PAÍS
Spain edging towards Socialist-led coalition as negotiations begin | World news | The Guardian
 
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I suppose a minority government where they have to look for alternative alliances to get legislation through is an option.
 
Minority government is always unstable and the problem with parties like Podemos is that they might have good intentions or be idealistic, they have no experience in government. Governing is a reality check with regards to what they have promised their voters / what they stand for and what is possible in the end / what concessions they have to make to form a coalition. EG in Germany we've had minority government only on federal state level and it never lasted long. Rajoy's party got the most votes so I can anticipate his will to head a future government even though people voted for change in general.
 
Or Rajoy minority or new elections. Or something that is extremely complicated PP-PSOE agreement.

PSOE and Podemos could agree, but need support from nationalists ... and the situation of Catalonia is very complicated and it could significantly harm the PSOE in the rest of Spain (some leaders in different regions such as Andalucia and Extremadura where the PSOE gets many votes are against). Podemos also wants constitutional changes, that are impossible to do without the PP. The main electoral enemy of the PSOE is Podemos, because it takes their votes, and that in new elections could harm them.

The PP has obtained more than 1/3 of the Parliament, and has absolute majority of the Senate. The Constitution can not be changed without them and they can extend much the processing of any law with which they may not agree. In that situation a government without the PP will be extremely difficult.
 
Or Rajoy minority or new elections. Or something that is extremely complicated PP-PSOE agreement.

PSOE and Podemos could agree, but need support from nationalists ... and the situation of Catalonia is very complicated and it could significantly harm the PSOE in the rest of Spain (some leaders in different regions such as Andalucia and Extremadura where the PSOE gets many votes are against). Podemos also wants constitutional changes, that are impossible to do without the PP. The main electoral enemy of the PSOE is Podemos, because it takes their votes, and that in new elections could harm them.

The PP has obtained more than 1/3 of the Parliament, and has absolute majority of the Senate. The Constitution can not be changed without them and they can extend much the processing of any law with which they may not agree. In that situation a government without the PP will be extremely difficult.

To my knowledge no party during the election campaign spoke to abolish the monarchy.
I think the monarchy is secure in Spain.
As is the popularity of the monarchy at this time?
 
I will admit that I know nothing about Spanish politics so please forgive my ignorance, what caught my eye in your comment was what I highlighted above. How many political parties are there in Spain and if there was only 2 before, how were they cracked? And how many political parties are there now? And how if there are more then 2 parties, how were the other parties formed and how were they put on the ballot? This is really interesting to me.

You mentioned that if no leader is found in 2 months, there will be another election........who does the voting in that election, the people or just the members of the political parties and how many candidates run, one from each party or more? Thank you!

Spain, like other European monarchies, has a parliamentary system of government. In a parliamentary system, the head of government, i e the prime minister, is not directly elected by the people. Iinstead, voters elect members of parliament, i e the legislature. If a party wins an absolute majority of seats in parliament, the leader of that party in practice becomes automatically the new prime minister. If however no single party has alone an absolute majority of seats, different parties have to team up to form a coalition government. In that case, the Leader of the largest party within the coalition (i e the party with the most seats) usually becomes the PM, but that is not always so.

The mechanusm to choose a new PM and form a government actually varies from country to country. In some countries, the head of state, i e the King or Queen in a monarchy or the president in a republic, nominates a new PM after consulting the party leaders. The appointed PM then forms a government and submits a government program for a vote of confidence in the parliament. In other countries, rather than voting on a government program, the parliament votes directly to confirm or not the PM's appointment. Finally, there are countries where the parliament first elects by majority vote a new PM and the person who is elected is then appointed PM by the Head of State.

In any of the situations mentioned in the previous paragraph, if parliament is unable to elect a PM by majority vote or, by a majority, votes down a nominated PM or his/her government program, then parliament can be dissolved and new elections are called for all seats in the legislature.

PS: In some countries, the legislature actually consists of two separate houses (like the HOuse of Representatives and the Senate in the US). In those cases, the government usually needs majority support only in the most numerous House (which, nowadays, is always elected by popular vote) and the dissolution of one House may not affect the mandate of the other.
 
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To my knowledge no party during the election campaign spoke to abolish the monarchy.
I think the monarchy is secure in Spain.
As is the popularity of the monarchy at this time?

You are correct. There are more pressing issues that abolishing the monarchy. If all those got settled and the new parties more established, a referendum could be on the cards, years from now.

lula The PP has obtained more than 1/3 of the Parliament, and has absolute majority of the Senate. The Constitution can not be changed without them and they can extend much the processing of any law with which they may not agree. In that situation a government without the PP will be extremely difficult.

a solution could be to sacrifice Rajoy as leader and possible PM, if he makes it too difficult for the other leaders to deal with PP.
http://europe.newsweek.com/spain-sc...-after-historic-election-results-408063?rm=eu

Felipe has time until January 13 to meet everybody and work out possible solutions.
 
Spain, like other European monarchies, has a parliamentary system of government. In a parliamentary system, the head of government, i e the prime minister, is not directly elected by the people. Iinstead, voters elect members of parliament, i e the legislature. If a party wins an absolute majority of seats in parliament, the leader of that party in practice becomes automatically the new prime minister. If however no single party has alone an absolute majority of seats, different parties have to team up to form a coalition government. In that case, the Leader of the largest party within the coalition (i e the party with the most seats) usually becomes the PM, but that is not always so.

The mechanusm to choose a new PM and form a government actually varies from country to country. In some countries, the head of state, i e the King or Queen in a monarchy or the president in a republic, nominates a new PM after consulting the party leaders. The appointed PM then forms a government and submits a government program for a vote of confidence in the parliament. In other countries, rather than voting on a government program, the parliament votes directly to confirm or not the PM's appointment. Finally, there are countries where the parliament first elects by majority vote a new PM and the person who is elected is then appointed PM by the Head of State.

In any of the situations mentioned in the previous paragraph, if parliament is unable to elect a PM by majority vote or, by a majority, votes down a nominated PM or his/her government program, then parliament can be dissolved and new elections are called for all seats in the legislature.

PS: In some countries, the legislature actually consists of two separate houses (like the HOuse of Representatives and the Senate in the US). In those cases, the government usually needs majority support only in the most numerous House (which, nowadays, is always elected by popular vote) and the dissolution of one House may not affect the mandate of the other.

Thank you, yet the words in bold is what has me confused, A party, what I don't know is: how many political parties are there in say Spain? Here in the US we have 2 only(sad) so are there more then 2 and if so, do they have names? Can anyone group of people just form a political party and if so, how does the political party(the parties) get on ballots so that their candidates can have the chance to be elected to parliament.

What sometime is hard to understand is that people talk about a person in the party and yet I get the impression that is the name of the party, the person's name, doesn't the party as a whole have a name and would they be either a republican, democrat, independent or monarch?

Here we have 2 parties, republicans or democrats and nothing else but there should be more then 2. Is that they way it is for the parliaments of Europe, only 2 parties, republicans and democrats?

I am find this very interesting as with what is going on here, it shows that there is a huge need for more then 2 parties and wonder how many parties are in a country in, say Spain? If there are 3 or more, then how do they get together to hold elections all the time, must the current PM put that to a vote within the present parliament or can he just state that on such and such a date there is going to be an election for what ever reason?

I do understand now that the people elect the parliament being all the parties that are running for office and that the majority party gets to put their PM in office and then form a government, yet the only confusing part for me is The Parties, just how many parties can there be running at one time, do they campaign around the country like here in the US? I have never really taken an interest in political elections before but what is going on in Spain and here has sparked an interest. So I am a novice in this and all your information is very helpful, Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

I know my questions must sound silly but they are coming from someone who knows almost nothing about politics so this is a learning process for me about European government and how they are formed.
 
SnowBirds,

the answer is not easy, for example the European Union consists of 28 countries and all of them are different due to their historical background. Some of them have 2 parties only, some of them are more or less democratic and tend to rule with absolute majorities, most of them have more parties because when people get unhappy they tend to elect smaller parties (what is the case in Spain now - due to the financial crisis) that usually form a coalition with one of the bigger parties. For example in Germany we have 2 big established parties but one rarely gets absolute majority so most of the time there are coalitions with a third party (liberal/right-ish, left-ish, green) or with each other. The smaller parties have to make 5% of the votes to get seats in parliament and if the coalition building is successful, the government will usually last 5 or 6 years before the next election turnus. If it collapses, new elections will be on the cards sooner.

Like in Spain, the parties usually campaign around the country but the process by far not as long as in the US, where the campaign goes on for almost 18 months. I think in Germany its 6 months and people like it as short as possible, its more quick and easy, regarding the choice of candidates too.

In Spain, there are now the established parties PP (conservative, with president Rajoy who keeps majority despite losses) and PSOE (socialist, and unlike in Germany these two parties do not have a relationship that would allow a coalition). Due to the crisis a lot of people turned to the left-ish Podemos and liberal/right-ish Ciudadanos, so there are 4 parties now instead of 2 to form a government.
Rajoy will be in charge of forming the government first because his party got most votes and he is president, but that could change quickly if he doesnt find a stable solution of coalition with (some of) the other parties. Felipe will have talks with all of them to see where they stand.

Hope this helps to answer your questions.
 
SnowBirds,

the answer is not easy, for example the European Union consists of 28 countries and all of them are different due to their historical background. Some of them have 2 parties only, some of them are more or less democratic and tend to rule with absolute majorities, most of them have more parties because when people get unhappy they tend to elect smaller parties (what is the case in Spain now - due to the financial crisis) that usually form a coalition with one of the bigger parties. For example in Germany we have 2 big established parties but one rarely gets absolute majority so most of the time there are coalitions with a third party (liberal/right-ish, left-ish, green) or with each other. The smaller parties have to make 5% of the votes to get seats in parliament and if the coalition building is successful, the government will usually last 5 or 6 years before the next election turnus. If it collapses, new elections will be on the cards sooner.

Like in Spain, the parties usually campaign around the country but the process by far not as long as in the US, where the campaign goes on for almost 18 months. I think in Germany its 6 months and people like it as short as possible, its more quick and easy, regarding the choice of candidates too.

In Spain, there are now the established parties PP (conservative, with president Rajoy who keeps majority despite losses) and PSOE (socialist, and unlike in Germany these two parties do not have a relationship that would allow a coalition). Due to the crisis a lot of people turned to the left-ish Podemos and liberal/right-ish Ciudadanos, so there are 4 parties now instead of 2 to form a government.
Rajoy will be in charge of forming the government first because his party got most votes and he is president, but that could change quickly if he doesnt find a stable solution of coalition with (some of) the other parties. Felipe will have talks with all of them to see where they stand.

Hope this helps to answer your questions.

Thank you so much DoM, you have answered my question about the number of parties in Spain. In putting the name to the party it has now helped me identify who is who where as before it was confusing. I did know that there was 28 countries in the European Union, I just did not know how they work or even if they do work together for lately I read somewhere in one of my many newspapers that I read there was talk of some country wanting out of the Union and that there was actual problems in the EU, if this is incorrect please let me know. Having names to parties make it easier for me to understand and putting the name of the person in charge of each party makes helps me identify who is who.

JMO is that with 4 parties in Spain maybe it would be easier for parliament to form a government or as I put it, take care of business. Not much gets done with just a 2 party system as I have seen here and don't want to get started on my government.

Can you answer one more question, how are parties formed? Ex: a man or group of men/women get disgusted with their government, they form a political party, then they write down say in their ledger the names of members, ideas and what the party stands for, they give it a name, a logo, they elect a person in this party to be in charge, then what? Do they register it some where, does the government require so many members be in a party, how does it get on the ballot, how do they let the people know that a new party is formed and is running for parliament? And elections, who sets the date for elections? The current PM or the King/President?

I don't mean to bother anyone here with all these questions, it is just I want to learn how this is done. And I don't know where else to go to get answers from people that I believe are honest with me..........this forum is very informative and I have seen that there are many very intelligent, brilliant and well educated people here so I guess you could say I am picking their brains for information so that I can only learn.

Thank you DoM
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland
In Switzerland we have another - very democratic - system. We have a lot of diffrent parties - 3 big ones and about 5 smallish to small ones.

There is the 'Ständerat' - where the people of each Kanton elects its represantatives directly in. Then we have the 'Nationalrat' - where also the people of each Kanton elect directly the 'Nationalräte' in. In the Nationalrat the number of seats ist distributet on the Kantons proportionally to the population; in the Ständerat each Kanton has 2 Seats and each Half-Kanton 1 Seat.

The Nationalrat then votes every 4 Years (or when a 'Bundesrat' gives up his/her place - but then only for that place) 7 Bundesräte, they form our Goverment. Each Bundesrat has departments to lead (Finances, Military, Social, Economy etc.) Every Year the President of the Bundesrat rotats. The rota is guided by servingtime in the Bundesrat. The elected Bundesräte are deciding in the group, who is taking which department. They can switch responsebilities for departments, when ever they like / agree on. Also here is a seniority-principle at work.

The 7 Bundesräte (elected by Parlament) are from 4 diffrent parties - depending on there strength in Parlament - which means that the 4 biggest parties form together our Goverment.

So we do not have a party who governs and an opposition - but a goverment of consent - all together have to find a consent.

On the same principles of consent also the goverment of Kantons, Cities and Communen functions.

And if people are dissatisfied with something, they can form inititives, partitions, or demands directly to the concerned govermentbody
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland
In Switzerland we have another - very democratic - system. We have a lot of diffrent parties - 3 big ones and about 5 smallish to small ones.

There is the 'Ständerat' - where the people of each Kanton elects its represantatives directly in. Then we have the 'Nationalrat' - where also the people of each Kanton elect directly the 'Nationalräte' in. In the Nationalrat the number of seats ist distributet on the Kantons proportionally to the population; in the Ständerat each Kanton has 2 Seats and each Half-Kanton 1 Seat.

The Nationalrat then votes every 4 Years (or when a 'Bundesrat' gives up his/her place - but then only for that place) 7 Bundesräte, they form our Goverment. Each Bundesrat has departments to lead (Finances, Military, Social, Economy etc.) Every Year the President of the Bundesrat rotats. The rota is guided by servingtime in the Bundesrat. The elected Bundesräte are deciding in the group, who is taking which department. They can switch responsebilities for departments, when ever they like / agree on. Also here is a seniority-principle at work.

The 7 Bundesräte (elected by Parlament) are from 4 diffrent parties - depending on there strength in Parlament - which means that the 4 biggest parties form together our Goverment.

So we do not have a party who governs and an opposition - but a goverment of consent - all together have to find a consent.

On the same principles of consent also the goverment of Kantons, Cities and Communen functions.

And if people are dissatisfied with something, they can form inititives, partitions, or demands directly to the concerned govermentbody

Okay, first let me Thank you for your info on your government and now the questions...Katon, what is this? I think a town, city, area, or district of people? I am just guessing here so please forgive my ignorance.

Could you tell me what these 3 names mean? In guessing I think the first 2 are names of parties... and the last is an elected official who is in office????
Ständerat'
'Nationalrat'
Bundesrat and if this is an elected official they only serve 4 years, wow, that to me is amazing. And there are only 7 who are elected by Parliament and each of these has the responsibilities of taking care of a department within the government and they can rotate their duties when they like. Now is your Parliament elected by the people and how long does a member of Parliament serve? And all members of Parliament are from the 3 large parties and the 5 small ones, right? And from there Parliament selects 7 Bundesrat to head up different departments within the government. What happens if the 7 Bundesrat do not all agree on something, does it then go back to Parliament to sort the problem out?

It has been many decades since anyone has agreed on anything in my government and I can tell you that there are so many disgusted people in my country right now, the whole political system is now a joke and very broken and one of the problems is that no one wants to talk about it or even acknowledge it, very sad!

I hope I am understanding this for if not, please correct me. And a huge Thank you for doing this for me.
Happy Holidays :xmasbell:
 
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