The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal Family of Spain

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #441  
Old 07-16-2009, 09:32 AM
madeleine victoria's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cavite, Philippines
Posts: 775
I think the RF should keep the Bourbon surname. It's so regal after all.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #442  
Old 07-16-2009, 11:48 AM
Marsel's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 966
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladejesus View Post
Thanks Marsel. I didn't realize they had done that in England.
You are welcome..
I agree with amedea though that the Belgian would work just as good, if not better.
__________________

__________________
Audentes fortuna iuvat - Fortune favours the bold *** ... ***Amore, more, ore, re - Love, behaviour, words, actions *** ... ***Aquila non capit muscas - An eagle does not hunt flies
Reply With Quote
  #443  
Old 11-03-2009, 12:19 PM
White Princess's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Natal, Brazil
Posts: 461
Quote:
Do you believe that Infanta Leonor's Kids will reign? 35.9
Only this? People are expecting Leonor to be a bad queen, so...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #444  
Old 11-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: VALENCIA, Spain
Posts: 309
I think the first question is:
Can be Leonor,Queen ? The answer is that today the Spanish Constitution has not changed, it says that the throne only can be inherited by men. It must be changed for that she can be Queen.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #445  
Old 11-03-2009, 01:05 PM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRIS1983 View Post
I think the first question is:
Can be Leonor,Queen ? The answer is that today the Spanish Constitution has not changed, it says that the throne only can be inherited by men. It must be changed for that she can be Queen.
No Spain only has a male preference, Leonor can become queen unless she has a brother with an unchanged constitution.

Ask a similar question in Britain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, any monarchy, if the heir's kids will actually reign, I think there will be similar results. Monarchy in general in getting less and less popular, maybe in Spain it's a little bit more unpopular than in other countries but in general the institution is in decline.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #446  
Old 11-03-2009, 01:51 PM
ladejesus's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Here and There, United States
Posts: 690
You're right Duke. I believe Salic Law was repealled in Spain by Ferdinand VII leading to the Carlist Wars upon his death.
__________________
"¡Yo soy española al cien por cien! (I am 100% Spanish!)" -S.M. la Reina Doña Sofía
Reply With Quote
  #447  
Old 11-03-2009, 02:01 PM
Paty's Avatar
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 3,879
Yes you are right ladejesus. Fernando VII repealled the Salic Law upon is dead so his sucessor
was his daugther, Isabel know as Isabel II
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #448  
Old 01-08-2010, 08:15 AM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by lula
Activities of the Royal Family during the year 2009

Balance de actividades de la Familia Real durante el año 2009. Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España

Google automatic translation.

Report of the 2009 SRF's activities
Google Traducir
They are doing a vast amount of events, whether there is substance in everything or the main purpose is to look busy ... let's leave aside this question.

In general I think it's the right thing to do to put the focus on Kings and Princes, however, taking on these vast number of events will be a difficult thing to keep up in the future with the Kings not getting younger and the Asturias' kids not ready for duty in the next 25 years. The number will have to drop, big time, as the SRF will be running out of people.

In general I think that the Infantas should be working much more, Cristina is kind of excused now living abroad but Elena's amout of work is not impressive, really.

To focus on a 1 man - 1 woman show (F&L) in the future is a risky strategy.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #449  
Old 05-15-2010, 02:39 AM
LadyFinn's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southwest, Finland
Posts: 16,287
According to an exclusive poll for SIGMA DOS para La Otra Crónica (LOC) 67.1% of the Spanish view that Letizia is prepared to the role of future consort of Felipe VI. A year ago, when LOC asked its readers if the Princess was ready to replace Queen Sofía, only 53.7% supported it.
Un 13% más de españoles la apoyan | El MUNDO en Orbyt.. | EL MUNDO
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #450  
Old 10-26-2010, 01:07 PM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by ANNIE_S View Post
I don´t see why not producing a male heir let her in a worse position. Leonor is the heiress, she can reign if she has no brothers, and it seems that they won´t have more children, so there is no problem about that.
Or do you think that the Spanish Royal Family just think that Leonor shouldn´t be queen? There have been other queens in Spain already
A male heir is still preferred by constitutional law to this very day, therefore there is some kind of pressure to produce a male heir to please tradition.

Reality is that Leonor will be Queen only if she has no brother, in 21st century it makes her kind of 2nd class heiress (only succeeding because the male heir is missing). Given "the logic of times", according to Felipe, the firstborn should be heirESS, no matter what sex (even though there might be advantages and disadvantages to this solution). It is dissapointing that Spain is one of the few countries that hasnt changed the constitution that is being labelled "sexist" in modern times, Zapatero promised to make changes but obviously he has other problems and in times of crisis he prefes to look after himself and not touch a hot topic. I wonder if a Spanish president (and the SRF) will have the guts to touch this subject, ever. Seems all parties involved are too afraid of being deselected/abolished when leaving this decision to (a maybe frustrated and unpredictable) public.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #451  
Old 10-26-2010, 07:38 PM
White Princess's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Natal, Brazil
Posts: 461
I have been hearing strong rumors about The Third Republic. Can anyone from Spain talk about it?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #452  
Old 05-18-2011, 07:45 AM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
In a survey, 79 per cent said they think the Príncipe de Asturias has the support and social legitimacy to succeed the king and 86 per cent, including 71 per cent of Izquierda Unida voters, say he will be prepared to eventually take on the functions of the head of state. The IU traditionally supports a republic rather than a monarchy.

It showed that the majority of Spaniards preferred a parliamentary monarch as the best system of government for the country. However support for this is on the decline. Over a two year period, support dropped from 72 to 57 per cent whilst those supporting a republic have grown from 11 to 35 per cent.

Juan Carlos' son: Fit to be king, according to poll
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #453  
Old 05-18-2011, 07:54 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,316
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade View Post
In a survey, 79 per cent said they think the Príncipe de Asturias has the support and social legitimacy to succeed the king and 86 per cent, including 71 per cent of Izquierda Unida voters, say he will be prepared to eventually take on the functions of the head of state. The IU traditionally supports a republic rather than a monarchy.
Not eventually, it's now. 86% says the Prince is ready to be King.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #454  
Old 05-19-2011, 06:27 AM
An Ard Ri's Avatar
Super Moderator
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westmeath, Ireland
Posts: 9,747
The economic downturn must have some factor in the drop in support for the Monarchy?

I would assume during better times support was higher.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #455  
Old 05-19-2011, 07:33 AM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by An Ard Ri View Post
The economic downturn must have some factor in the drop in support for the Monarchy?

I would assume during better times support was higher.
The Royals are not stupid and they will be on high alert these days, especially before the elections they rather avoid being seen with any politician who very frequently are present at royal events: young people in Spain are getting annoyed with politics, parties & politicians big time and there is a high risk that the Royals are being drawn into this discussion if they are not careful.

We all know what in the arab countries happened and still happens, it might start with protests against the government but can quickly end up with protests against the monarchy, like in Jordan. And Spain is not country, like any European country, that can afford to react like the arab countries did in the beginning.

Once the ball is rolling, it can become an independent movement impossible to control.

Thousands stage demonstrations in Spanish cities to protest political parties, crisis handling - The Washington Post
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #456  
Old 06-27-2011, 03:01 PM
An Ard Ri's Avatar
Super Moderator
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westmeath, Ireland
Posts: 9,747
The Monaco situation has got me thinking about the future of the Spanish Monarchy.

Are they fearful for the future?

The King was afraid to celebrate his 70th Birthday,Letizia is afraid to wear her new tiara & now their afraid to send anyone to the Princely Wedding in Monaco?

There's no celebration of the Monarchs birthday or his accession to the throne.The Royal Family have put away all their jewels & seem afraid to wear anything incase of upsetting the public mood.

The future does not sound too good for the Borbóns in my opinion!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #457  
Old 06-28-2011, 12:36 AM
Duke of Marmalade's Avatar
Majesty
TRF Author
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Posts: 8,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by An Ard Ri View Post
The Monaco situation has got me thinking about the future of the Spanish Monarchy.

Are they fearful for the future?

The King was afraid to celebrate his 70th Birthday,Letizia is afraid to wear her new tiara & now their afraid to send anyone to the Princely Wedding in Monaco?

There's no celebration of the Monarchs birthday or his accession to the throne.The Royal Family have put away all their jewels & seem afraid to wear anything incase of upsetting the public mood.

The future does not sound too good for the Borbóns in my opinion!
When the SRF attended William's wedding in full style, the problems in Spain were as obvious as they are today. William is not even heir to the throne yet, Albert is a reigning prince and the relations are supposed to be very friendly.

I dont think that the economy is the reason why they are not going if they are not going, to see Felipe sailing instead is not exactly down to earth either compared to attending a Head of States' wedding that is the job of SRF, representing their country.

Monaco may be fluff but Albert is still a reigning Prince. Its not that Stephanie is getting married for the third time on Saturday.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #458  
Old 06-28-2011, 06:20 AM
An Ard Ri's Avatar
Super Moderator
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westmeath, Ireland
Posts: 9,747
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade View Post
When the SRF attended William's wedding in full style, the problems in Spain were as obvious as they are today. William is not even heir to the throne yet, Albert is a reigning prince and the relations are supposed to be very friendly.

I dont think that the economy is the reason why they are not going if they are not going, to see Felipe sailing instead is not exactly down to earth either compared to attending a Head of States' wedding that is the job of SRF, representing their country.

Monaco may be fluff but Albert is still a reigning Prince. Its not that Stephanie is getting married for the third time on Saturday.
Exactly Duke,the economic situation in Ireland is just as bad as in Spain & we don't begrudge our Head of State & her husband a chance to attend the Princely Wedding.

I don't believe for one minute that the Spanish people are petty minded like that.Who ever went was there to represent Spain at the Wedding.The King could easily send any of the 4 Infantas inplace of Sofia/Felipe/Letizia.

What ever reason Zarzuela gives will only add fuel to the fire & we'll have more & more rumours .

Bad pr move on the behalf of the SRF!!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #459  
Old 06-28-2011, 06:56 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Posts: 1,414
Although I agree that the non-attendance of SRF to the Princely wedding is a bit peculiar, I wouldn't call it the end of spanish monarchy...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #460  
Old 06-28-2011, 07:03 AM
An Ard Ri's Avatar
Super Moderator
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westmeath, Ireland
Posts: 9,747
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte_Aster View Post
Although I agree that the non-attendance of SRF to the Princely wedding is a bit peculiar, I wouldn't call it the end of spanish monarchy...
Perhaps not the end but its another nail in their coffin!
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
catalonia, future of the monarchy, juan carlist, juan carlos i, royalist, spain, spanish nobility, spanish royal family


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Future of the Dutch Monarchy Marengo Dutch Royals 3 12-10-2014 02:16 PM
The Future of the Danish Monarchy Empress Royal House of Denmark 456 10-06-2014 05:49 PM
If a Future King married a Future Queen? BritishRoyalist General Royal Discussion 41 07-30-2014 09:23 AM
Future of the Belgian monarchy Marengo Royal Family of Belgium 87 08-15-2008 01:22 PM




Popular Tags
abdication belgium birth carl philip charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria current events fashion germany grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri hohenzollern infanta leonor infanta sofia jordan king carl xvi gustav king constantine ii king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander letizia luxembourg nobility official visit olympic games ottoman pregnancy president hollande prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince daniel prince floris prince maurits prince pieter-christiaan princess aimee princess anita princess ariane princess astrid princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess mabel princess madeleine princess margriet princess mary queen anne-marie queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen silvia royal royal fashion russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit stockholm sweden the hague visit wedding william



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:19 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]