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Old 07-21-2019, 09:09 AM
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So it looks like that, after repeatedly denying he would do it, Pedro Sanchez has finally agreed to form a coalition government with Podemos ministers in the cabinet as long as Pablo Iglesias is not a part of it.

Pedro Sanchez recently came out as a republican, but claimed he was satisfied with "Felipe VI's monarchy" as an acceptable compromise (at least for now). Could Podemos , however, push for a republican constitutional referendum now that they are about to become junior partners in the government? I know the coalition government , including the separatist and nationalist parties, doesn't have the required two-thirds majority in Parliament to pass a republican constitutional amendment, but still what do the Spanish TRF members think ?
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:28 AM
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So it looks like that, after repeatedly denying he would do it, Pedro Sanchez has finally agreed to form a coalition government with Podemos ministers in the cabinet as long as Pablo Iglesias is not a part of it.

Pedro Sanchez recently came out as a republican, but claimed he was satisfied with "Felipe VI's monarchy" as an acceptable compromise (at least for now). Could Podemos , however, push for a republican constitutional referendum now that they are about to become junior partners in the government? I know the coalition government , including the separatist and nationalist parties, doesn't have the required two-thirds majority in Parliament to pass a republican constitutional amendment, but still what do the Spanish TRF members think ?

A change of the Constitution would need another vote with 2/3 majority in the Parliament followed by a referendum so nt as easy to do something.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:37 AM
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So it looks like that, after repeatedly denying he would do it, Pedro Sanchez has finally agreed to form a coalition government with Podemos ministers in the cabinet as long as Pablo Iglesias is not a part of it.

Pedro Sanchez recently came out as a republican, but claimed he was satisfied with "Felipe VI's monarchy" as an acceptable compromise (at least for now). Could Podemos , however, push for a republican constitutional referendum now that they are about to become junior partners in the government? I know the coalition government , including the separatist and nationalist parties, doesn't have the required two-thirds majority in Parliament to pass a republican constitutional amendment, but still what do the Spanish TRF members think ?
Even if the PSOE makes a coalition with the PODEMOS, and although the We can be a Republican party this will not affect the monarchy.
The monarchy is the only thing that unites Spain, if they want to change the constitution this would awaken several other movements and Spain, as we know it, would cease to exist.
It is very difficult to change the regime at this time and no one wants to touch on this matter, not even PODEMOS, because they know what can happen.
The monarchy is to last in Spain, the King is popular and got the monarchy to overcome all crises after the scandals of King Juan Carlos and Infanta Cristina and Iñaki.
I think, in my opinion, that there is no cause for concern right now.
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70.3% believe that Princess Leonor will reign

54% of respondents believe that a referendum between Monarchy and the Republic is not necessary, 58 believes that the King performs his duties better than politicians.

https://www.larazon.es/espana/el-703...nar-OA25344749

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70.3% believe that Princess Leonor will reign

54% of respondents believe that a referendum between Monarchy and the Republic is not necessary, 58 believes that the King performs his duties better than politicians.

https://www.larazon.es/espana/el-703...nar-OA25344749

https://translate.google.es/translat...nar-OA25344749
I am sure that is being very positively by the Court.
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I am sure that is being very positively by the Court.
I watched Pedro Sánchez’s investiture debate on Saturday and Tuesday in the Spanish parliament and I must say I was surprised with the overt atttacks on the King . Even more surprisingly, Mr Sánchez, the prime minister nominated by the King , not only refrained from defending the monarch against the attacks of the separatist and ultra-leftist parties , but actually had the audacity in his final intervention of quoting the last president of the Second Spanish Republic, which prompted a reaction from the center-right and far-right benches with cries of “ Viva el Rey”.

I don’t think the monarchy is in any immediate danger, but the polarization seen in the debate, where several speakers ( on both sides, including the far right Vox party) used language reminiscent of the Civil War era, is scary. And the Sánchez’s government, in coalition with the communists and neoleftists of Unidas Podemos, and backed by the Catalan and Basque separatists, was invested with a ( simple) majority of only two votes, which does not bode well for the stability of this parliament.

EDIT: Following Sánchez’s intervention, Pablo Casado, the leader of the main center-right party (PP), praised the King as the symbol of the continuity of the State ( or something like that, I.don’t remember his exact words) and new cries of “ Viva el Rey” were heard from the opposition benches. Curiously, the leader of the ( more moderate ) Basque Nationalist Party ( PNV), who voted to invest Sánchez as PM, accused the opposition of endangering the political neutrality of the Crown by suggesting that the Crown was siding with the opposition against a coalition government that the right accuses of illegitimacy , which is legally incorrect, not least because, under the constitution, it was the King himself who charged Mr Sánchez with the task of forming that government. An interesting debate indeed !
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