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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 PM
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I can't help myself, but I always think after looking on a picture with little Froilan that he must be unhappy and in the next second he will begin to cry.

I wish him all the best.

Do you have also this opinion?
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Old 03-25-2008, 04:00 PM
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I don't believe in this happy cousin relationship at all. Both infantas are close and their children have more of a grown relationship because they are older. There is already a connection when they see each other. Irene being the 4th child has automatically become part of an existing siblings' alliance with a healthy balance: being spoilt here but getting the stick from her brothers there. When looking at pictures there is nothing more than a formal must have relation between the Infantas (especially Cristina) and the Asturias couple and this will reflect on the children. It's somehow a clash of attitudes, a relaxed tomboy family here and showing off picture perfect girls there. Public appearances with her daughters are one of the few opportunities where Letizia can get some much needed admiration from the public for her ego but I don't see any close family relations in these pictures. Apart from Queen Sofia, who is a grandchildren-holic anyway, nobody really bothered, neither the King nor the Infantas. I still see Letizia as a overperfectionist mother who puts all effort into her daughters because the Asturias family is the only true happiness in her life, after being disillusioned about her role.
You got to be kidding, Letizia (alone or with Felipe) has always been able to draw a big crowd whenever she (they) goes. They have tried not to use the girls for the public admiration, at least much less than Infanta Cristina who loves to show off her cute kids all over the places. You can obviously see that most of the time the boys simply hated the cameras. Leonor and Sofia happen to be two outgoing kids and have been raised very well by their parents, good for them and their future roles. If Felipe/Letizia are not close to Cristina, does it really matter ? Nobody seems to demand that JC/Sofia have to be close to Infanta Pilar .

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Old 03-25-2008, 04:36 PM
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Some people criticized Letizia and Felipe for "hiding" their cute daughters and not showing them in public often enough. Some people now are criticizing Letizia for using her daughters for gaining public admiration. Am I the only one who sees contradiction here?
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:15 PM
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:45 PM
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Some people criticized Letizia and Felipe for "hiding" their cute daughters and not showing them in public often enough. Some people now are criticizing Letizia for using her daughters for gaining public admiration. Am I the only one who sees contradiction here?
No you're not! These sorts of contradictions are rampant where Letizia is concerned though.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:08 PM
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Instead of debating over this, what about those Easter eggs that the Queen and her daughters have on a chain around their necks.
It must be a collection.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:59 PM
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Inaki was so gallant in letting Elena stand next Cristina instead of her being at the end of the line.
Indeed it's very nice of Inaki to do so. In fact, by protocol, Elena should look for the place next to the King (or her sister should make the room for her), of course the protocol only applies to Letizia .
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:49 PM
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Elena was the last one to arrive, so I guess that\'s why she got the last spot, I totally loved when she came with the kids and Iñaki offered Vicky a spot by his side and the girl ran to him, you can see the relationship is really good and the marichalar kids are really close to their uncle ; another thing: is there a pic where the King is even LOOKING at the Asturias\' girls? he hang with the other kids but didn\'t even give a look at those girls
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:17 AM
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Leonor and Sofia live very close to the King and Queen, so is it really such a surprise that he focuses more on his other grandchildren?

Although I guess yet again some will be claiming it is all Letizia's fault!
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:22 AM
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So are the king and Letizia not close? Why?
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:41 AM
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one thing is focusing on some grandchildren he never seem to be with and other thing is ignoring the ones he supposedly sees all the time did we see the King talking to Letizia, to Felipe or even looking at their way? I saw pics of him talking to Elena, talking to Cristina, to their kids, but it almost was like the Asturias weren\'t even there and one more thing: why can\'t Leonor be seeing at a playground with her cousins? I understand Sofi Jr is still too little, but Leo can play with Irene, who plays with her brothers and cousins with no problem, there isn\'t a security issue, if the Queen herself can be at a playground, the King can meet his friends and go to dinner, the Infantas go shopping with no problem, why Leonor can\'t do it?
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:11 AM
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Mariangel said in her journal that the Asturian family arrived in Mallorca on Saturday, how could Leonor go to the playground to play with her cousins when she was not even in Mallorca ? The Asturias live next to the Kings all year long, work at the same Zarzuela Palace, it's only logical that they want to spend the Easter week elsewhere, leave the Kings to their daughters (esp. Cristina) and their families they don't see at daily basis. Felipe also travelled elsewhere when he was single and he never really likes Mallorca with paparazzis everywhere, thus they didn't do anything different as the days when Felipe was single.
The pictures are only the snapshots of a few seconds and actully look quite repetitive among the agencies. Unless you saw the 2-hour live inside/outside the church, how could you draw a conclusion that the King never talked to Felipe or Letizia or looked at their children ? Plus there is a 'single' mom there with two kids, a couple with four kids, of course the Kings were helping them more among the crowd.

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Old 03-26-2008, 05:48 AM
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Article from DiezMinutos: Felipe y Letizia con sus dos princesas
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DIEZ MINUTOS - FELIPE Y LETIZIA CON SUS DOS PRINCESAS
The article by the way says what Donna already said above, that the princes have the habit of spending the holiday of semana santa elsewhere and only arrived in Palma much later, which means that it is quite logcial indeed that Leonor wasn't playing in the park with her coursins!!

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Old 03-26-2008, 09:02 AM
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Mariangel said in her journal that the Asturian family arrived in Mallorca on Saturday, how could Leonor go to the playground to play with her cousins when she was not even in Mallorca ? The Asturias live next to the Kings all year long, work at the same Zarzuela Palace, it's only logical that they want to spend the Easter week elsewhere, leave the Kings to their daughters (esp. Cristina) and their families they don't see at daily basis. Felipe also travelled elsewhere when he was single and he never really likes Mallorca with paparazzis everywhere, thus they didn't do anything different as the days when Felipe was single.
Exactly. Moreover, Cristina in particular, seems very unwelcoming to Letizia, so is it any surprise if Letizia does not want to spend much time with her?
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:40 PM
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The Prince from bachelor has taken advantage of the vacations of Holy Week or summer to do trips. This summer seems that the Princes are going to be busy enough and not to be going to have opportunity great to be relaxed and removed from everything, so it is logical that they are useful these days.

Since they have commented, the Princes live through few meters of the Kings, share with them many official acts, are almost every day in Zarzuela ... it is logical that in vacations they are the Infantas those who pass more time with their parents.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:07 AM
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Princess Letizia's haircut was fantastic but that outfit! The pants looked like JEANS to me and on Easter Sunday to boot!
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:32 AM
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Mariangel said in her journal that the Asturian family arrived in Mallorca on Saturday, how could Leonor go to the playground to play with her cousins when she was not even in Mallorca ? The Asturias live next to the Kings all year long, work at the same Zarzuela Palace, it's only logical that they want to spend the Easter week elsewhere, leave the Kings to their daughters (esp. Cristina) and their families they don't see at daily basis. Felipe also travelled elsewhere when he was single and he never really likes Mallorca with paparazzis everywhere, thus they didn't do anything different as the days when Felipe was single.
The pictures are only the snapshots of a few seconds and actully look quite repetitive among the agencies. Unless you saw the 2-hour live inside/outside the church, how could you draw a conclusion that the King never talked to Felipe or Letizia or looked at their children ? Plus there is a 'single' mom there with two kids, a couple with four kids, of course the Kings were helping them more among the crowd.
Finally a comment that makes sense DonnaK.. I totally agree!
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:48 AM
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Anyway we have seen many other photos of other days in Mallorca (summer) and we could never seen the two little children playing!!!!! We have never seen the three ladys together maybe on the beach or doing some shopping in Mallorca, to me that is really strange! And don't tell me that they are only some snapshots because we have seen several of them in several different ocassions and we could never see them palying and the ladys talking!
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:54 AM