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Old 09-21-2018, 05:15 AM
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I think none . She will wear a traditional Roumanian wedding dress.
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:03 PM
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According to this article the religious ceremony will be officiated by a group of five priests led by Archbishop Calinic of Arges and Muscel. Nicolae and Alina-Maria will have two pairs of godparents: Alexandra Butculescu-Filitti and Constantin Filitti for the groom and Liviu and Simona Popescu for the bride.
Programul nunții lui Nicolae al României cu Alina Maria Binder_ Arhiepiscopul Calinic va oficia cununia religioasă - Newstandard
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Exactly, and she conveniently forgets that he is no longer a prince. He only was a prince for 5 years and 4 months (and not for the other 28 years and 1 1/2 months of his life) if we accept his grandfather's actions in entitling Nicholas, we should also accept his removal.

I don´t have the feeling he is "removed" at all! Nicolae and his wife seem to be more actively envolved in engagements and charity than ever before.
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I don´t have the feeling he is "removed" at all! Nicolae and his wife seem to be more actively envolved in engagements and charity than ever before.
They are very active in their private endeavors indeed trying to outdo the royal highnesses. None of these activities are done in the capacity of representing the Romanian royal family currently headed by his aunt. So yes, all of this doesn't change anything about him being completely removed from the line of succession and from any involvement in official royal affairs.

If for example count Ingolf of Rosenborg suddenly was extremely active in all kinds of engagements and charity work that would be fine but he would not be doing so representing the Danish royal family. Had he done so in the 60's and 70's it would surely have been seen as him trying to overshadow the lawful Danish royal house.

However, there are other threads to continue this discussion.
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They are very active in their private endeavors indeed trying to outdo the royal highnesses. None of these activities are done in the capacity of representing the Romanian royal family currently headed by his aunt. So yes, all of this doesn't change anything about him being completely removed from the line of succession and from any involvement in official royal affairs.

If for example count Ingolf of Rosenborg suddenly was extremely active in all kinds of engagements and charity work that would be fine but he would not be doing so representing the Danish royal family. Had he done so in the 60's and 70's it would surely have been seen as him trying to overshadow the lawful Danish royal house.

However, there are other threads to continue this discussion.

I never claimed he is doing this as a representative of the RRF. Still he is doing it for his personal love to Romania which, as I see it, ranges above this royal house who is not even officially reigning.
Anyway, N. is always welcomed with open arms and affection where ever he goes as every kind of media material prooves!

So, perhaps it is even an advantage to N. to be free from this cold blooded, dysfunctional "family" as he can choose the causes which matter to him without having to owe something to this "magestic custodian"!
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:32 AM
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I never claimed he is doing this as a representative of the RRF. Still he is doing it for his personal love to Romania which, as I see it, ranges above this royal house who is not even officially reigning.
Anyway, N. is always welcomed with open arms and affection where ever he goes as every kind of media material prooves!

So, perhaps it is even an advantage to N. to be free from this cold blooded, dysfunctional "family" as he can choose the causes which matter to him without having to owe something to this "magestic custodian"!
We were discussing his removal from the line of succession and his royal titles, so, if you claim he isn't removed I would expect that to be related to the previous posts. So, in that case not representing the royal family is very much part of it.
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Latest news about the princely wedding. Archbishop Calinic will attend the religious ceremony of Prince Nicolae in Sinaia
Although the priests of the church at Arges wanted to take place in the Cathedral of Curtea de Arges, Archbishop Calinic will travel to officiate the religious ceremony of the two in Sinaia, the village where he was abbot. Nicolae came to the church in Robaia on Friday, September 14th, the day of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross. After the service officiated by Archbishop of Arges and Muscel, at the invitation of His Eminence, the two ate at the convent. Nicolae was not accompanied by his future bride, and most likely, he came to ask for blessings and to appease Calinic. Asked by Journal de Arges about event of the year, His Holiness told us: "His Beatitude Patriarch Daniel gave high approval and blessing as September 30, 2018 to attend the religious ceremony of Prince Nicolae and his wife, Alina Maria Binder on parish church "St. Elias", in Sinaia. The decision is theirs and respected, although I would have liked to have held the religious service in Curtea de Arges. However, they want to come in Curtea de Arges for the customary prayers after the wedding."
Ultimele noutăţi despre nunta princiară. ÎPS Calinic va oficia cununia religioasă de la Sinaia a Principelui Nicolae – Jurnalul de Arges

At this video we see Nicolae at the church from 1.52, he is also interviewed.
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Interesting how the media keeps getting it wrong. Nicolae is not a prince.

It's rhe opposite of how other media tend to keep using maiden names for women who married inyo a royal family and therefore should be addressed as princess (or duchess).
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Old 09-22-2018, 12:02 PM
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Interesting how the media keeps getting it wrong. Nicolae is not a prince.
You forgot to criticise the Archbishop of Argeș and Muscel, who also referred to the groom as "Prince Nicholas."
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You forgot to criticise the Archbishop of Argeș and Muscel, who also referred to the groom as "Prince Nicholas."
I wasn't sure whether the quote was literally taken from his mouth but yes, it looks like the archbishop goes along with Nicolae's narrative although he doesn't like them not to use his preferred location.

Are there multiple archbishops in Romania with the one in Bucharest supporting Margareta and this one supporting Nicolae?
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The Archbishop is not the only one. I heard many others calling him Prince Nicolae!
I think for many who loved and respected King Mihai it is hard to understand why his
own grandson would not be a Prince.
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The Archbishop is not the only one. I heard many others calling him Prince Nicolae!
I think for many who loved and respected King Mihai it is hard to understand why his
own grandson would not be a Prince.
It's not that hard to understand: because he is the child of one of his daughters and not of a son. Otherwise he would have been a prince from birth. Mihai's other grandchildren don't go around introducing themselves as princesses either because they aren't. Nor do for example the children of Infantas Elena and Cristina who are female line grandchildren of the monarch in a reigning monarchy.
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It's not that hard to understand: because he is the child of one of his daughters and not of a son. Otherwise he would have been a prince from birth. Mihai's other grandchildren don't go around introducing themselves as princesses either because they aren't. Nor do for example the children of Infantas Elena and Cristina who are female line grandchildren of the monarch in a reigning monarchy.

It might not be hard to understand for us knowing a lot about Royalty and titles because it is part of our interests. But the average person "from the street" is often mystified!


The difference between Nicolae and the children of these spanish princesses you named or the Casiraghis (who are also often wrongly called "Prince Pierre Casiraghi", for instance) in Monaco is that these persons, other than King Mihai´s grandson, have never been titled Prince/ Princess and have not stripped of it again only by an intrigue of a jealous, childless aunt!
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Latest news about the princely wedding. Archbishop Calinic will attend the religious ceremony of Prince Nicolae in Sinaia
Although the priests of the church at Arges wanted to take place in the Cathedral of Curtea de Arges, Archbishop Calinic will travel to officiate the religious ceremony of the two in Sinaia, the village where he was abbot. Nicolae came to the church in Robaia on Friday, September 14th, the day of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross. After the service officiated by Archbishop of Arges and Muscel, at the invitation of His Eminence, the two ate at the convent. Nicolae was not accompanied by his future bride, and most likely, he came to ask for blessings and to appease Calinic. Asked by Journal de Arges about event of the year, His Holiness told us: "His Beatitude Patriarch Daniel gave high approval and blessing as September 30, 2018 to attend the religious ceremony of Prince Nicolae and his wife, Alina Maria Binder on parish church "St. Elias", in Sinaia. The decision is theirs and respected, although I would have liked to have held the religious service in Curtea de Arges. However, they want to come in Curtea de Arges for the customary prayers after the wedding."
Ultimele noutăţi despre nunta princiară. ÎPS Calinic va oficia cununia religioasă de la Sinaia a Principelui Nicolae – Jurnalul de Arges

At this video we see Nicolae at the church from 1.52, he is also interviewed.
All this cuddling and cooing the bearded men. One would think Nicholas would like to see Romania advancing into a free and secular and modern and prosperous state, with well-educated, conscious, tolerant and forward-looking citizens. That he acknowledges Bishops, allez, but he is no royal and look back into this thread: the number of those churches, chapels, monasteries, bishops, services, ceremonies this private citizen visited is beyond belief. Even Saint - Baudouin would be surprised by all that eh... religiosity.
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Very excited to be invited to the wedding! Have had to change the outfit for the ceremony as the weather will be a little unkind. My evening gown for the reception will just have a pashmina added. Getting the outfits just right has been an existential crisis for months. This last minute change has added to the stress, but can’t wait! Even the loooooooooong flight is not a deterrent.
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Very excited to be invited to the wedding! Have had to change the outfit for the ceremony as the weather will be a little unkind. My evening gown for the reception will just have a pashmina added. Getting the outfits just right has been an existential crisis for months. This last minute change has added to the stress, but can’t wait! Even the loooooooooong flight is not a deterrent.
Thank you so much for posting.

Have a fabulous time at your friends' wedding.

I cannot wait to see pictures of the event from the news outlets - fortunately, I am Facebook friends with at least one person who is going. It will be lovely to see Nicholas and Alina surrounded by their close inner circle on their special day.

Have fun!!
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Thank you so much for posting.

Have a fabulous time at your friends' wedding.

I cannot wait to see pictures of the event from the news outlets - fortunately, I am Facebook friends with at least one person who is going. It will be lovely to see Nicholas and Alina surrounded by their close inner circle on their special day.

Have fun!!
Thank you! There are a couple of social gatherings before the wedding and a brunch the day after, so it will be very busy, but exciting! They are so beautifully suited to each other, despite all the travails along the way. I knew she was “the one”, the first time I met her, even while Nick was still oblivious to it! Alina is super bright, very funny and adores her man. So happy for them and honoured to be a part of it all.
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Thank you! There are a couple of social gatherings before the wedding and a brunch the day after, so it will be very busy, but exciting! They are so beautifully suited to each other, despite all the travails along the way. I knew she was “the one”, the first time I met her, even while Nick was still oblivious to it! Alina is super bright, very funny and adores her man. So happy for them and honoured to be a part of it all.
Wonderful for you ! ¨Please keep us informed !
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Nicolae on Instagram with the invitation of the wedding:

"1 day to go before our first guest arrives, 5 days until we celebrate with friends and family."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoI0oRwB...olaealromaniei
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Mișcarea pentru Regat și Coroană Bucharest (The Movement for the Kingdom and the Crown) at its Facebook:
"Specification: Mișcarea pentru Regat și Coroană Bucharest offered to organize (not to offer it free) transport to Sinaia for those wishing to attend the wedding of Prince Nicolae and do not have their own means. The public will see from a huge screen placed outside the church St. Elijah the guests arriving and the celebration of the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony. Then will join the procession that will be lead by carriage by the bride and groom to Sinaia Casino, from which balcony the princely couple will greet the crowd. For about three hours, you will witness a historic moment. We have read from the messages of all those who will be in Sinaia on Sunday, that the desire for the public's attire at this event would be the national costume."
https://www.facebook.com/miscareapentruregatsicoroana/
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