Lady Tamara Grosvenor and Edward Van Cutsem: 6 November 2004

[His Lordship]

If I may....for a guy here....I think it is interesting here in the U.S. women normally dress up more for weddings, even if they are in the afternoon, all evening gowns and such.

But I have to tell you, I have been to quite a few weddings in England and will always look in wonderment at some of the more interesting designs for dresses...and hats for that matter...that aristocratic and royal ladies tend to choose.

I would say L. Tamara also chose it as it was late fall and usually very cool, if not cold, that time of the year.

For as graceful as she looks in the pictures she is just as charming and wonderful in person. A true lady whom I have had the pleasure of meeting.

[joye]

Lady Tamaras tiara was designed by Grand Duke Michael Michaelovich 1861 1929,made by Faberge,a gift for his wife, Sophie de Torby.

I think it was sold by succeeding generation, and bought by a Duke of Westminster.


Thankyou, I was looking for this wedding photo. Mine was unlabeled. Your good turn to me.

Mine is the info re the tiara.


Signed HRH

[har]

Surely the tiara is more likely to have been inherited as the current Duchess of Westminster is the great granddaughter of Grand Duke Michael and Sophie

[Christo's Girl]

I didn't like her dress, I thought it made her look older than she really is.

[kelly9480]

Originally Posted by har

Surely the tiara is more likely to have been inherited as the current Duchess of Westminster is the great granddaughter of Grand Duke Michael and Sophie

The tiara is allegedly a Westminster heirloom, not a Phillips one. Faberge designed a lot of items that were fashionable throughout Europe and many of his designs ended up in British aristocratic families' hands. Considering the Tally wore at her wedding a tiara that her husband purchased for her, I wonder whether her family had any tiaras at all. Her brother committed suicide over financial difficulties, so it seems the family, despite their grand connections and country mansion, battled financial problems.

[Katrianna]

Thank you all for the pictures and the information. Charles was childish for throwing a fit and not attending, but it all backfired for him in the end. Charles and Camilla looked the fools and received the criticism.

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by Christo's Girl

I didn't like her dress, I thought it made her look older than she really is.

Interesting, isn't it, that for all her money, this richer-than-the-queen girl chooses a dress that's really really terrible. Whoever Bruce Oldfield is, design-wise, even I could've done a better job. The crude neckline, mink even, was way way over the top compared to the delicate buds embroidered on the dress. Those buds were placed in a terribly ugly way, on top of it. As pointed out earlier, the veil seemed to be ill fitting with the rest of the outfit. This bride is 24 evidently, if you had told me she actually is 39, i'd have believed that as well. Goes to show--money doesn't equal cool. Just cash.

[pollyemma]

I believe Bruce Oldfield designed some dresses for the princess of wales in the '80s. so he is a well established couterier.

I dont think tamara's dress is too awful. just kinda boring. and like you said, it makes her older than she is.

[kelly9480]

Bruce Oldfield is a very respected designer in the UK, even though I must admit I find his designs to be hideous. Tamara seemed to want something traditional and demure (despite the fur), but strangely, didn't go for what I would consider normal for a winter wedding (thick duchesse satin with a lovely overcoat and gown). Either way, if she liked it... though I will admit I think the bridesmaids dresses were prettier than the bride's.

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by pollyemma

I believe Bruce Oldfield designed some dresses for the princess of wales in the '80s.

ah, that explains a lot! :p

I think you're actually right the dress was more boring than hideous. On second thought, it was a tad more hideous than boring in my opinion. If only it was boring on the scale of Aimee's dress for example. Then you at least get a pretty kind of boring.

Originally Posted by kelly9480

Bruce Oldfield is a very respected designer in the UK, even though I must admit I find his designs to be hideous.

Good grief, if this particular dress channels his design talents, if I ever win the lottery I'll be sure to stay far and away from his couture concoctions!

[kelly9480]

his website

I just don't like any of those clothes on that site. I never really liked anything he designed for Diana, and I didn't like the wedding gown and the mother-of-the-bride outfit.

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

his website

I just don't like any of those clothes on that site. I never really liked anything he designed for Diana, and I didn't like the wedding gown and the mother-of-the-bride outfit.

I can't recall what he designed for Diana, but perhaps that's a good thing!

[pollyemma]

Originally Posted by princess olga

I can't recall what he designed for Diana, but perhaps that's a good thing!

I think he is guilty of her 'dynasty di' look. the evening dresses with low backs and sequins and brighly colored suits with big shoulder pads and such.eeewww