Hugh Van Cutsem & Rose Astor June 4th, 2005

[kelly9480]

You seem really knowledgeable to me, too. I'm looking forward to picking your brain on royal issues as they come up, because you probably do more reading than I can (currently studying law, so most of my reading time is confined to human rights abuses (which makes Constantine's case even more fascinating to me)).

[His Lordship]

Yes! Now that is interesting....I know back in 2002 he won his case..although not in the way he had hoped in the World Court, I believe. He, his sister Irene and aunt Katherine received money in the suit but not the property Mon Repos or Tatoi.

I will tell you that I think if ANY royal family outright owned property in their own name, and jewels for that matter, and the government during WWII stripped them of it, they should get it back.

How would we feel if our government did that to us?

We should start another thread for this as I know King Michael and King Simeon are experiencing similar issues..so are some of the Hapsburgs...

[msfroyste]

not only them, but some other noble/aristocratic families as well. all i know is that i'd feel horrid if my family lost everything - i know some ancestors of mine were forced into exile from their country of origin, and they never got over it.

[florawindsor]

Kate looks very pretty in this dress.
is there any picture of Jessica? i wonder if really she was gf of PW? if so, will it be awkward for K&J to meet?

[Hannelore]

"Two sprays of mixed flowers, entirely pavéd with diamonds, meet at the large, open wild rose in the center. The sprays can also be worn as brooches. The diamonds, set in flowers, are recorded in the Heathcote inventory of 1786 and have descended in the same family since..."

The tiara is named as being the property of Baroness Nancy Willoughby de Eresby, 28th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby, who apparently was one of the train bearers for Queen Elizabeth at her coronation in 1953.

The mother of the present owner of the tiara (the Baroness) and the grandfather of the bride were siblings, both children of Waldorf Astor, 2nd Viscount Astor.

[Hannelore]

mother & brother of the groom

[ladybelline]

Are there any more pictures of the bride? I'd like to see her whole dress...

The tiara is pretty, but I found it too big for her.

I loved Kate's outfit. But not Jecca's hat..

[pdas1201]

Rex Features

1-3. Bride and Groom
4-7. Laura Parker Bowles
8-9. Kate Middleton
10. The Church

[pdas1201]

Rex Features

1-2. Edward Van Cutsem
3-6. Ben and Kate Goldsmith (brother and sister-in-law of Jemima)
7-8. Tiggy Pettifer (formely Legge-Bourke, former nanny of William and Harry)
9. Prince William
10. Prince William with William Van Cutsem (behind the lady in the red hat). He is the youngest of the Van Custsem brothers.

[Reina]

Wow...so does TIggy have good relations with the van cutsem's too? She must be nanny of the century.

[sara1981]

Tiggy know Prince William and Prince Harry when he was little boys but im not sure she been friend of Prince William's

Sara Boyce

[kelly9480]

Pdas1201, is there any way you can get a larger version of 525219K? If so, thanks.

[pdas1201]

Originally Posted by kelly9480

Pdas1201, is there any way you can get a larger version of 525219K? If so, thanks.

Here it is...

I see Hugh and Edward van Cutsem with their mom. I was trying to figure who that lady with the face covered is, maybe Tamara, Edward's wife.

[Idriel]

Originally Posted by His Lordship

I love the fact these Van Cutsem boys are marrying women worth millions and in the case of Lady Tamara Grosvenor, billions.

They came, they saw inheritances, they conquered. The first time we have a male family to compare to the Cushing sisters, the Mitfords, and the Miller sisters.

The one who married in November to Lady Tamara received 10 m pounds to ensure the Duke of Westminster's daughter was kept in the lifestyle she was used too.

I am very surprised by this statement. I was always said that the reason why British aristocrats were doing so much better than most European aristocrats is that the titles, properties AND money go undivided to the eldest son, leaving nothing to other kids.
Tamara being a girl and having a little brother, I wonder to what extend, exactly, she is an heiress. It seems to me that she is the one who did a good wedding. The Van Cutsem boys are very wealthy (on their own since they all have good jobs and potentially by inheritance) and their social standing is above question.
Same comment for Rose.
And just a look at the brides (especially Rose) makes me think they did not need much extra motivation to wed them...:p
In a post you also said that you met the Cutsem brothers and that they were annoying. I wonder if Nicholas was among them. He always seemed to me the nicer and more discreet.

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by pdas1201

Rex Features

1-3. Bride and Groom
4-7. Laura Parker Bowles
8-9. Kate Middleton
10. The Church

Thank you pdas for the photos, especially the ones of Rose's dress. Her wedding dress is definitely one of the nicest wedding dresses I've seen. I love its simplicity mixed with the intricate lacework. And of course, the tiara. How wonderfully it complements her gown. Hugh doesn't look bad either, but dresses are far more important to a girl than tuxedos.

[kelly9480]

Originally Posted by pdas1201

Here it is...

I see Hugh and Edward van Cutsem with their mom. I was trying to figure who that lady with the face covered is, maybe Tamara, Edward's wife.

Thanks for the pictures.

That's Lady Tamara. There are photos at www.donfeatures.com and she seems to be wearing that same outfit.

[kelly9480]

Tamara got L10 million in comparison to the billions her brother will inherit. She probably got around the same amount of money that Edward will eventually inherit (their father spent L5 million building a family house, not including the cost of buying the land the house sits on). The Astors have an estimated L66 million (the entire Astor clan, not just Rose's dad), so she probably isn't in line to inherit much of that (the family has really branched out and is fairly large considering how new they are).

[micas]

Nice pics!!! Some one now some about the bride tira?? And is a close up?