The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Royal Highlights > Royal Weddings > Weddings: Non-Reigning Houses & Nobility

Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #201  
Old 03-04-2007, 08:59 AM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
TRF Author
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 5,390
The reason that Camilla was mentioned was an example of a well put together 2nd wedding ensemble and I agree it was very fashionable and chic for Camilla. The same outfit would not work for Alexandra.

Camilla was almost 60 with two grown children. Alexandra is in her early 40s almost 20 years younger than Camilla with two little boys. Plus Camilla was marrying the Prince of Wales; Alexandra is marrying a photographer.

The styles that are appropriate for the two women's second wedding are totally different.

I think a suit similar to what Princess Caroline wore for her wedding to Ernst August would have looking smashing on Alexandra but that doesn't seem to be Alexandra's taste. Caroline and Alexandra were closer in age at their marriage and their body types were more similar.

I was surprised at Alexandra's second wedding gown because I thought that Alexandra was tired of the fairytale princess image and her dress said fairytale princess to me.
__________________

__________________
"One thing we can do is make the choice to view the world in a healthy way. We can choose to see the world as safe with only moments of danger rather than seeing the world as dangerous with only moments of safety."
-- Deepak Chopra
Reply With Quote
  #202  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 159
I don´t think we can compare Alexandra´s and Camilla´s second weddings.
Camilla married to a crown prince, so she must pay attention to the royal etiqutte etc.
Alexandra married to a commoner. The whole wedding was a private occasion. Nobody nobel or royal was present, according to Henri M.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #203  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:20 AM
Henri M.'s Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eindhoven / Maastricht, Netherlands
Posts: 1,896
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heike
Nobody nobel or royal was present, according to Henri M.
Well there were two royals and one noble at the wedding: the Princes Nikolai and Felix, and the Countess herself.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #204  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:20 AM
fandesacs2003's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 3,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
I think a suit similar to what Princess Caroline wore for her wedding to Ernst August would have looking smashing on Alexandra but that doesn't seem to be Alexandra's taste. Caroline and Alexandra were closer in age at their marriage and their body types were more similar.
.
Agree with you, I would have imagined her more in such a dress. Or a Camilla's version, but younger, would be very nice, Camilla was perfectly dressed in her wedding, a very chic style.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
I was surprised at Alexandra's second wedding gown because I thought that Alexandra was tired of the fairytale princess image and her dress said fairytale princess to me.
.
I was surprised by the vale. I do not know if it is an "unwritten" law saying that after a certain age and for second wedding you should not wear a vale but my feeling would prefer her with a very nice hat.
On the other side we should not forget that she wed a man 14 years younger, and may be she tried to tight the distance between their age. So choose a fresh "young bride" dress than a stylish chic but "older lady" outfit.

Out of the subject, did the DRF attend? Frederik, Mary?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #205  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:25 AM
Henri M.'s Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eindhoven / Maastricht, Netherlands
Posts: 1,896
Quote:
Originally Posted by fandesacs2003
Out of the subject, did the DRF attend? Frederik, Mary?
There were no any royal or noble guests, not from Denmark and not from outside Denmark.

There were only 90 guests, all of them family and friends of the bridal couple.
And 30 of them were invited for a dinner at Jomfruens Egede estate.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #206  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:25 AM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
TRF Author
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 5,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henri M.
Well there were two royals and one noble at the wedding: the Princes Nikolai and Felix, and the Countess herself.

This may be splitting hairs but are Nikolai and Felix technically royal? The reason I ask is that their titles are HH (Hans Hojhed) His Highess not HKH (Hans Kongelige Hojhed) His Royal Highness.

Does the presence or lack of Kongelige or Royal in the title determine who is royal in the DRF and who is not?
__________________
"One thing we can do is make the choice to view the world in a healthy way. We can choose to see the world as safe with only moments of danger rather than seeing the world as dangerous with only moments of safety."
-- Deepak Chopra
Reply With Quote
  #207  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:30 AM
Henri M.'s Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eindhoven / Maastricht, Netherlands
Posts: 1,896
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
This may be splitting hairs but are Nikolai and Felix technically royal? The reason I ask is that their titles are HH (Hans Hojhed) His Highess not HKH (Hans Kongelige Hojhed) His Royal Highness.

Does the presence or lack of Kongelige or Royal in the title determine who is royal in the DRF and who is not?
Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix are grandsons of Queen Margrethe II and they are in the line of succession after their uncle the Crown Prince, their cousin Prince Christian and their father Prince Joachim.

So that undoubtedly makes them royal.

The 'HH'-part designates them as 'minor royals' as being children of a younger son to the Sovereign who do not belong to the direct line of succession.
In the Netherlands their equivalents are even no longer Princes or Princesses, but just Counts and Countesses (which has to do with the desire to downsize the number of Princes and Princesses).

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #208  
Old 03-04-2007, 09:49 AM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
TRF Author
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 5,390
Thanks Henri.

Its very unlike the British system where there are no non-royal highesses. Either you are a Royal Highness (Prince, Royal Duke, etc.) or you are no Highness at all (like the Earl of St. Ulster).

The presence of the HH without the Royal gave me the impression that the Danes keep a separate designation for people somwhere between royalty and the nobility.
__________________
"One thing we can do is make the choice to view the world in a healthy way. We can choose to see the world as safe with only moments of danger rather than seeing the world as dangerous with only moments of safety."
-- Deepak Chopra
Reply With Quote
  #209  
Old 03-04-2007, 11:38 AM
carlota's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: , United States
Posts: 5,693
{Response to deleted post removed - Elspeth}


i thought alexandra looked lovely and the ceremony was just as private and simple as they wanted. it's a shame no one of the royal family attended. would have been nice to see mary (since frederik is in the galathea expedition) perhaps there.

by the way, i'm not sure if this info was already posted, but her gown was by henrik hviid. i thought it was a beautiful design, really feminine. what really surprised me is that it must have been really cold yesterday in denmark to go out with no sleeves...
__________________
Sign the United Nations Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare: http://www.animalsmatter.org
YOUR DAILY CLICK HELPS ANIMALS SURVIVE!
Feed an animal in need, click for free.
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
Take some time to sign the petitions @: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/animal-welfare/all
Reply With Quote
  #210  
Old 03-04-2007, 11:50 AM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henri M.
Well there were two royals and one noble at the wedding: the Princes Nikolai and Felix, and the Countess herself.

+ the comtesse Marina of Rosenborg who is descended from Prince Waldemar the youngest of the six children of Christian IX of Denmark. Her mother Countess Karin of Rosenborg is by the way the lady-in-waiting of Princess Benedikte.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #211  
Old 03-04-2007, 11:53 AM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddeDK
I have many of my photos of Alexandra&Martin's wedding online at my website now (Madeleine Glindorf - Webdesign and photography) - also a few posted below!

Enjoy,
Madeleine Glindorf :)
Dear Madeleine - thank you for your always fantastic pictures - I really enjoy it every time you post some of your art... It's nice that you want to share your talent with us...

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #212  
Old 03-04-2007, 12:01 PM
Anita's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Rom, Italy
Posts: 382
Congrats to both of them . They look very much in love !
Alexandra was beautiful and very elegant .
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #213  
Old 03-04-2007, 12:12 PM
azile's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 471
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddeDK
I have many of my photos of Alexandra&Martin's wedding online at my website now (Madeleine Glindorf - Webdesign and photography) - also a few posted below!

Enjoy,
Madeleine Glindorf :)

Thanks SO MUCH Madeleine! We are so fortunate to have a photographer sharing some of their images. The photos on your website are fantastic.

Thank you!
__________________
Please refer to The Royal Forums Rules & Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #214  
Old 03-04-2007, 12:13 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henri M.
Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix are grandsons of Queen Margrethe II and they are in the line of succession after their uncle the Crown Prince, their cousin Prince Christian and their father Prince Joachim.

So that undoubtedly makes them royal.

The 'HH'-part designates them as 'minor royals' as being children of a younger son to the Sovereign who do not belong to the direct line of succession.
In the Netherlands their equivalents are even no longer Princes or Princesses, but just Counts and Countesses (which has to do with the desire to downsize the number of Princes and Princesses).

The system with the title 'His Highness' was introduced in the late 18. cent. by king Christian VII. Until then all children and grandchildren of the King was styled 'Royal Highness' but Christian VII changed this title to include only children of the king or the crownprince. It is said that it was because he disliked his brother prince Frederik that he changed the title so that the latter's four children (including the later Christian VIII) would only be styled 'Highness'. All this mean that if the king has two sons they are styled 'their royal highnesses' as they ar sons of a king. When the elder son gets two sons they are also styled 'their royal highnesses' as they are sons of a crownprince. But the sons of the king's younger son are only styled 'their highnesses'...

- 1. Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II
- 2. His Royal Highness Crownprince Frederik.
- 2A. His Royal Highness Prince Christian.
- 3. His Royal Highness Prince Joachim.
- 3A. His Highness Prince Nikolaj.
- 3B. His Highness Prince Felix.

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #215  
Old 03-04-2007, 12:55 PM
lilytornado's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: -, United States
Posts: 504
Why is everyone saying the flowers on her hair were blue? I cannot see that. To me they look white.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #216  
Old 03-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Lady Bluffton's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bluffton, United States
Posts: 348
Looks to me like Alexandra took a cue from Princess Margaret's hairdo on Margaret's wedding day, albeit sans the Poltimore.

I, too, think it a little over the top that someone over 40 and at their second marriage, had such a "never been married" look. I question the taste level.

BUT! She did look gorgeous.
__________________
"You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life / See that girl, watch that scene, diggin' the dancing queen"
Reply With Quote
  #217  
Old 03-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 159
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirhon11234
well I think Martin is upper middle class.
I agree.
Martin´s father seems to be a successful businessman.
He owns for example a holiday villa in Italy (or Greece?) where Alex and Martin and her two boys had vacation together.
In another thread (I think it is the " Alex to marry Martin" one), the motivation of Alexandra´s marrying to Joachim was discussed. One of the opinions was that she married him for his status and money. Then it was pointed out that since she would like to marry Martin despite her financial and status loss, it seems that Alex is not such kind of person who is so keen on those stuffs. Then somebody pointed out that choosing Martin can´t prove anything since he has a wealthy father. So I suppose that Martin is from a wealthy family.
I would rather put Martin Joergensen and Marie Cavallier into the same social class category, though I consider it quite snobbish nowadays to classify people by their family background. Martin has a rich father who runs a company where he works, and Marie has a rich stepfather who runs a company where she works. Martin has a daughter seemingly "by accident". Marie said in an interview that she learned different languages from her different ex-boyfriends, so she is also multilingual. They both have past stories.
But so what? As long as Alex is happy with Martin, Joachim is happy with Marie, why is the social class a big deal?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #218  
Old 03-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Sister Morphine's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Carolina, United States
Posts: 2,725
So if someone is in their 40s and has never been married, they can't look like a first-time bride? Or at least what we view as a traditional first-time bride? That hardly sounds fair to me. And why is it tasteless? Was anything hanging out or bulging or ill-fitting? She wasn't dressed indecently for a church wedding, was she?


Why is it such a big deal that she wore a veil?
__________________
"The grass was greener / The light was brighter / The taste was sweeter / The nights of wonder / With friends surrounded / The dawn mist glowing / The water flowing / The endless river / Forever and ever........ "
Reply With Quote
  #219  
Old 03-04-2007, 01:29 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 617
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Morphine
So if someone is in their 40s and has never been married, they can't look like a first-time bride? Or at least what we view as a traditional first-time bride? That hardly sounds fair to me. And why is it tasteless? Was anything hanging out or bulging or ill-fitting? She wasn't dressed indecently for a church wedding, was she?


Why is it such a big deal that she wore a veil?
I think we all have preconceptions of what a bride should look like - preconceptions that most likely date sixty years back or longer. I don't know about you all, but when I think of "brides" I think of girls in their twenties or early thirties...I don't exactly think of forty-year-old mothers of two. Let's face it, the second type is as common today as the first, so maybe it's time we told our subconscious to move on a bit and accept that you can marry in a white dress even if you're not a demure virgin, 22 years old.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #220  
Old 03-04-2007, 01:35 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 159
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Bluffton
Looks to me like Alexandra took a cue from Princess Margaret's hairdo on Margaret's wedding day, albeit sans the Poltimore.

I, too, think it a little over the top that someone over 40 and at their second marriage, had such a "never been married" look. I question the taste level.

BUT! She did look gorgeous.
I think Alexandra is not ashamed of that she has been married once. She doesn´t have to, either.

Every bride has the right and freedom to choose what she wants to wear on her wedding day, no matter how many times she has been married. Why should someone be punished not to wear what she really wants just because she had a marriage before?
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Additional Links
Popular Tags
birth charlene chris o'neill crown prince felipe crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria current events fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri hohenzollern infanta elena infanta sofia jordan kate middleton king abdullah ii king carl xvi gustav king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander luxembourg olympics ottoman picture of the month pom prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince constantijn prince felipe prince floris prince laurent prince pieter-christiaan princess princess alexia (2005 -) princess anita princess ariane princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess claire princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess madeleine princess margriet princess marie princess mary queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen paola queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit wedding william


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:15 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]