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Old 02-15-2009, 06:42 PM
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what was the tiara called?
it is really beautiful and the dress is absolutely stunning
we should have dresses like that one on Marina in this day
and age.
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:48 PM
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I don't know how the tiara is called but it is now owned by prince Michael of Kent and worn by his wife, as you can see here. I believe Pss. Marina inherited this fringe tiara from her mother, Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna of Russia, who wears it here.
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Beautiful I Herd them speak on youtube for the first time yesterday not what I Expected
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Another photo of the bride:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...arina_1934.jpg
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Olga got married 11 years before her 2 sisters.. That means for ex that Prince Alexandre of Y 's daughter has to say Auntie to Princess Michael of Kent ?
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Olga got married 11 years before her 2 sisters.. That means for ex that Prince Alexandre of Y 's daughter has to say Auntie to Princess Michael of Kent ?
Probably. But in private he may have called her 'Auntie Kent' or 'Auntie Marina'.
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Princess Marina of Greece & Denmark, she's a classic beauty and so is her beautiful daughter, Princess Alexandra. A perfect bride for a prince, which makes me question, why the many extramarital affairs on Prince George's part? Was it a loveless marriage or was it in his nature to fool around? In any case, I still think Princess Marina deserved all his affection...wonder if she knew of these affairs....I bet she did.
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Its more complicated. He was gay, at least bisexual. But I do think that George loved Marina in his own way very much. They shared interests in music and arts and he treated her very well. I think they had an understanding about his affairs.
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Its more complicated. He was gay, at least bisexual. But I do think that George loved Marina in his own way very much. They shared interests in music and arts and he treated her very well. I think they had an understanding about his affairs.
The word "understanding" baffles me, and I've read about his infamous sexual preference(s). If he loved her, treated her well and also shared common interests then why did he feel the need to continue these affairs with mostly high profiled partners, when it would obviously hurt her ego/feeling?

It would take a SAINT to "understand" your spouse's extramarital affairs, which was one too many for the dear princess to overlook.

Well, then it must have been his nature to foolishly fool around while his beautiful/elegant wife waited at home.

As far as looks go Prince George and Princess Marina is my favorite couple among the four Princes. PG's premature death was truly unfortunate. P Marina was too beautiful and young to have lived a widow.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:52 PM
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The word "understanding" baffles me, and I've read about his infamous sexual preference(s).
Why 'infamous'? His sexual preferences, period.
The word "understanding" means that Princess Marina undoubtedly was aware about these preferences prior to the marriage, knew exactly what she was getting herself into and decided to go ahead with it.
Judging by everything I have read, their unconventional marriage was based on a great friendship and shared interests indeed, and the fact that it would be an unconventional one was very clear from the start to everyone involved.
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Beautifully said Boris. Those were the days when royal ladies were getting married and mostly stayed married no matter what the circumstances.
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Why 'infamous'? His sexual preferences, period.
The word "understanding" means that Princess Marina undoubtedly was aware about these preferences prior to the marriage, knew exactly what she was getting herself into and decided to go ahead with it.
Judging by everything I have read, their unconventional marriage was based on a great friendhip and shared interests indeed, and the fact that it would be an unconventional one was very clear from the start to everyone involved.
Don't get me wrong I have nothing against his sexual preferences, but I doubt his s/perferences were kindly accepted then when it's still not kindly accepted in many parts of the world today. And to add to that, I used the term to highlight his many affairs and I certainly had no intention of impying any unpleasant meaning into the term.

As for the "understanding" part, unless you've come to such judgement after reading Princess Marina's biography or an interview given by her, other people's words/views are just that....other people's w/v. What you say might be true but surely there are bound to be contradicting views on any topic, especially of this kind. They didn't make any formal/official announcement of the terms of their "unconventional" marriage, have they?

Even if the couple were in aggreement with this unconventional relationship I can't help but doubt about her being at peace with these affairs.

What I write is strictly my personal point of view and I have no intention of forcing on to others. Thank you.
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This all depends on your personal views on things and attitudes. Many people would be jealous like hell, other think that sex hasn't to do with love. Some people say if you get older and older there has to be an agreement, some people are in love like the first day they met. My very own opinion is that these people aren't ordinary people so its normal that they lead unnormal and unconventional marriages! Most of these couples aren't able to lead a normal marriage daylife, they are often seperated because each one has its own duties and engagements.

And its just the life of the upper class, isn't it? As for George and Marina. I think, Marina was just Georges type! I'm sure she understood him like no other woman could have understood him, instead they wouldn't have married. Georgie was some sort of bohemian and I think Marina wasn't too much conservative as well.
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One of the books I read about Elizabeth, can't remember which one it was, had stated that Marina was not without male companionship.
First and foremost: they did their duty. That's why I admire QE II so much, no matter what, she didn't go onto Oprah and spill her guts to the world about how lousy Philip was running around with Merle Oberon. Marina was cut from the same cloth. Things happened but it was nobody's business.
Marina was actually getting a good deal, the Greek throne was rather unstable. England was.
I think it was a good thing for the both of them and they made it work.
Yeo-Wang, nowadays relationships are based on trust. Back then it was all dynastic. I would imagine that Kate and William would marry for love--if they do marry, or Harry and whomever.
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Things happened but it was nobody's business.
Marina was actually getting a good deal, the Greek throne was rather unstable. England was.
I think it was a good thing for the both of them and they made it work.
IMO, this is actually quite a perfect summary.
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His exclusive/private circles might have been more than understanding with these affairs but I was referring to the people who knew and held different views.

Unlike you, Boris, I'm someone who thinks more than one extramarital affair is one too many. And I was referring to affairs from both of his sexual preferences.

Again, these materials you've read are not her words from interviews or biography written by her. If the royals were exclusive and private people then who knows what really went on in their daily lives...unlike today where their most frivolous news/activities are known to us by the media.

I'm willing to keep an open mind about this royal couple's "unconventional" relationship since I'm not fully informed in depth about it, but I will come to my own conclusion in my own time. I have a lot to catch up on George/Marina and many more of my favorite royals. It was the primary reason why I joined The Royal Forums.

Difference is what makes us interesting and in that sense, I hope The Royal Forums is liberal enough to hold diverse views on different topics, provided they're expressed politely.
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Difference is what makes us interesting and in that sense, I hope The Royal Forums is liberal enough to hold diverse views on different topics, provided they're expressed politely.
Well said .

Now, since we established that the duke had interest in men and women and that his wife knew about it, I suggest we can stop the discussion about wider issues like extra marital affairs and focus on the topic of this thread, which is the actual wedding.

More information about the prince George and princess Marina can be found in this thread at the British forum.

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