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Old 10-10-2008, 07:30 AM
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Probe of case into recovered remains of Nicholas II, his family members - extended


Moscow, October 10, Interfax - The Investigative Committee of the Russian Prosecutor General's Office has prolonged the investigation of a criminal case into the found remains of Emperor Nicholas II and his family members in the Sverdlovsk region.

"A shirt with spots of Nicholas II blood was sent to genetic experts for examination. The issue of resolving the criminal case will be discussed after examination results are obtained," Investigative Committee's Spokesman Vladimir Marking told Interfax .

Examination results will be available by late October.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:09 PM
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"The issue of resolving the criminal case will be discussed after examination results are obtained,"
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Examination results will be available by late October.
This does not mean that it will be over in late October. It only means there will be even more discussion by the investigative committee *after* the results on the "Otsu" shirt have been received in late October.

This still does not tell us when we can expect to see the final report. It tells us nothing at all about their return to Koptyaki to do even more digging and what new reasons they have now found to suspect a possible third burial pit. It tells us nothing at all about the tests being done to find the genetic evidence of that suspected faulty Factor VIII gene.

It only tells us they will soon be doing more talking amongst themselves after they have received the results on the shirt from the Hermitage.

"The issue of resolving the criminal case will be discussed... "

What possible issues can the members of the investigative committee now see that still need to be resolved? ... and... Why are they now referring to it as a criminal case.... instead of it just being the simple case of DNA identification that the general public at large now assumes it to be?

Obviously, it's still going to be a good long time yet -- well past the end of October -- before we actually do find out once and for all what has really been going on during these past 12 months or more.

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Old 10-31-2008, 12:14 AM
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Hallow e'en. The last day of October. The day before All Saints Day. Fifteen long months since the discovery of that alleged second burial pit ... and *still* there is no sign at all of that much-anticipated final DNA report.

Just three weeks ago, we had all been told that the examination results from the blood-stained "Otsu" shirt from the Hermitage would be available "...by late October". Here we now are at the end of October... and still no final report.

Still no word at all on the results of those genetic tests that we know they were doing to search for the evidence of that suspected faulty Factor VIII gene. Still no explanation from investigators as to why they have now come to suspect the existence of a third burial pit (for which there is no previously known evidence whatsoever).

How much longer will we all be expected to wait before the full details of those same much-anticipated completed reports and the answers that they hold are finally made public?

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Old 10-31-2008, 01:21 AM
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Unless the question is purely rhetorical, I guess the answer is that we'll "be expected" to wait until the day the results are released to the public.
Impatience is understandable, but won't achieve anything. After 90 years, a few months or more of waiting is no great hardship in the scheme of things.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:56 PM
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Warren, John's point is that they --the scientists-- say "We have them! For sure!" then it's "We need to do more tests". Then "We'll, we're still inconclusive."
It smells awfully fishy to me!
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:52 AM
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It smells awfully fishy to me!
Now you're hinting at or inferring a conspiracy before even knowing the outcome. Rather than jumping to conclusions, why not wait and see.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:23 AM
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This argument just goes on and on. I agree with Warren and will wait and see
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Now you're hinting at or inferring a conspiracy before even knowing the outcome. Rather than jumping to conclusions, why not wait and see.
I wanna know now!

I'm in a very Veruca Salt mood. . .
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:21 PM
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We at least need to know what new evidence they have found that has now given them reason to suspect the existence of -- and now to be searching for -- a third burial pit.. for which there is no previously known evidence whatsoever.

That one point alone requires a full and proper explanation now. Not at some unknown time in the distant future.

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Old 11-11-2008, 05:13 AM
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I agree John, but you know that won't happen. Answers have never been forthcoming in this affair. IMO, part of the problem is there is no public pressure involved. I don't expect answers out of Russia on this.

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Old 11-11-2008, 05:58 AM
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This thread was meant to be about "new information". Rather than continuing down the path of speculative theories, rhetorical questions and definitive statements based on nothing but supposition, any posts which don't relate to "new information" will henceforth be removed.

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