The Duke and Duchess of Bragança and Family: February 2008- December 2014

[Elsa M.]

The Duke of Bragança at the Lusophony Games (Jogos da Lusofonia), Lisbon, July 18th:

.: Jogos da Lusofonia :.

 

[Elsa M.]

The children posed for Flash magazine, during a horse riding lesson, right after another yellow magazine had published photos of Afonso playing with a compressed air gun, at the garden of their Summer house.
Like it happens every year, the family is spending vacations in the Algarve, but later they're planing to visit one of the archipelagos (Madeira or Açores) too.

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(from Flash)

 

[Sereta]

Thanks for posting the pictures. It's nice they're having fun riding horses.
The youngest is such a cutie!

 

[maidmarion]

Glad to see they visit the Islands also!

MM

 

[Elsa M.]

On today Revista Caras there is an article of the visit TRH made to Évora.
Unfortunately no photos at the bullfight, but a pic with D.Duarte's cousin AD Joseph von Habsburg (Jr) and his family.

Olá Semanário published now some photos too.

From a cocktail held at hotel Mar d'Ar Aqueduto, prior to the bullfight:

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From the bullfight:

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[Regina]

There come the simplistic explanation.

Touradas are not related solely to the old aristocracy.
It would mean we have tons of aristocrats .

All right, José, I didn't say that everyone attending a tourada is an aristocrat. But IMO a tourada is very related to the old aristocracy and its values... everyone knows that! It was one of the most popular shows among noble people...
What's a difference between a tourada and a chicken fight? There is no difference... Why these people who loves touradas... don't also enjoy a matança do porco? Yes, why not? You don't see nobles attending a matança, JSP, because that never was a royal tradition... (A matança do porco is a portuguese tradition where several men kill a pig using a huge dosis of cruelty).

Fighting or hunting just for the fun, is not regal, not merciful and not christian and portuguese aristocracy are to be regal, merciful and christian. If not, they are useless to our country.

Don't worry ! It just shows the Cortezias that take place before the corrida on the 18th century fashion.

You won't see neither the bull, nor the Cavaleiros or Toureiros in action.
Enjoy it :

Yes, enjoy it because they won't see the bull and the toureiros in action! Everyone would always enjoy it if these espectáculos were always without a toureiro and a bull in action

I guess I should defend the old morgadios :rolleyes2:.
After all, I am the elder of 3 brothers, and suddenly, the idea of shipping one of my brothers to the army and the other to the clergy seems very appealing .

Sounds tempting, doesn't it?

As to the idea that the old absolute monarchy worked better than the new democratic republic, you don't want me to answer, do you ?

All I know is that I wouldn't like to live in an absolute monarchy with Dom Duarte or Poidimani, or Nuno da Câmara Pereira as our absolute King.
Well, nowadays you can go and voting... didn't you enjoy when Mr. Socrates and Mr. Vital lost in the last Europeias? I did! And so Paulo Portas! So at least now (in democracy) we can have these strong emotions from time to time hehe!

 

[Elsa M.]

An interview to the Duke of Bragança was published on Youtube:

YouTube - SAR 22 de Agosto 2009

 

[iceflower]

The Duke and the Duchess of Bragança attended the wedding
of Prince Lucas von Auersperg and Princess Alice von Bayern,
August 29, 2009 in Andechs, Germany.

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More about the wedding can be found here.

 

[Elsa M.]

Enough with this suit!... Doesn't she have any other clothes to attend royal gatherings? Seriously.

 

[JSP]

Enough with this suit!... Doesn't she have any other clothes to attend royal gatherings? Seriously.

Hmmm, I might agree with you, but there is always the "Crisis argument"

We, men, are luckier.
We do not have to bother with the "trapos" when invited for a wedding

 

[Harold]

I have a couple of basic questions about Duke and Duchess. I am sure they have been answered before, but if I coulda ask again without having to read through everything, I would appreciate it.

First, where do they live? If I am correct after skimming through all the threads they have a fairly ordinary home in Sintra, which is a neighboring city to Lisbon. They also have a country house and a beach house. They do not have one of the ancestral homes, palaces, etc. Is this correct?

Second, after the revolution the royal family was expelled. Were they allowed to retain any property in Portugal? Did the Duke inherit substantial wealth? I note that there is an entity called the Brangaza Foundation. Was if formed to safeguard the royal family's finances after the revolution? And how does the Duke support himself now? Does he work?

Thanks.

 

[JSP]

You've answerd the first question.

As to the second one:
After the republican uprsing (rather than a revolution) the RF left to exile with little more than what they could carry with them.
Later, due to british RF influence, the republican government send to Queens D.Amélia and D.Maria Pia and King D.Manuel their personal belongings, clothes, jewels, private papers, some minor objets d' art .

D.Amélia owned quite a few buildings in Lisbon - most of António Maria Cardoso street in Chiado (including the later HQ of Salazar's political police PIDE) and she could receive her rents.

Later rents were frozen in Lisbon and her income became smaller and smaller as well as renovation works grew more and more expensive.

When D.Manuel died in 1932, Salazar made an agreement with D.Amélia snd her daughter-in-law D.Augusta Victoria, according to which the two queens renounced to her succession rights on the bulk of D.Manuel' s inheritance which had been kept in Portugal, and with those properties and goods, he created the Fundação da Casa de Bragança.

The Miguelist branch of the family was poor as a church mouse.
When D.Miguel left to exile he refused to take any properties with him, including his share on D.Carlota Joaquina's inheritance.
He also refused to receive a pension D.Pedro proposed to pay him.
He choosed to live a decent, dignified and poorer life, not wanting that it could be said he was living on portuguese money.
He received a pension from the Pope and the help of miguelist supporters and émigré aristocrats (the Cadaval family f.i.)
Later the family mingled wit two of the richest families, the Liechtensteins and the Thurn und Taxis and D.Miguel (III) married a very wealthy american heiress.

When Salazar decided it was time to revoke the Banning Act on the Miguelist branch of the family, he realised they should live with a minimum (and he stresed "minimum" ) funds that would support their role.

In a genious act, he killed two birds with a stone.
He approached D.Amélia and canningly shared with her the problem.
D.Amélia was D.Duarte Pio's godmother.
She ought to make him the main beneficiary of her will, providing for the family' s economic independence.
That way, not only the Queen's property would remain in portuguese hands, rather than pass to the Queen's french relatives, and the state would be seen as the supporter of the idea, without having to spend a penny with the family.

So D.Duarte Pio found himself the owner of a vast empoverished and decadent real estate, part of it he sold during the real estate boom at the beginning of the century.
You might have heard the "noise" some left wing made when he sold the PIDE building so that a luxury hotel would be built.
The left-winged, who never had any interest in the building, suddenly "decided" that it should be turned into an anti-fascist museum instead of the planned hotel.
BTW the hotel was built...

D.Duarte and his brothers also own a farming manor estate in Santar where they grow wine and cereals.
The Duke worked at an agricultural mutualist institution and at Fundação D.Manuel II.
D.Isabel worked as a fortune manager at banco Espírito Santo before her wedding, and went on working for some years.
Not sure if she still does.

Fundação da Casa de Bragança has nothing to do with the present RF and as far as I knew, they don't maintain relations with the RF.
After revoking the anning Law, Salazar ordered the Fundação to provide a palace for D.Duarte Nuno's family at S.Marcos in Coimbra.
After the 1974 revolution, a left-winged commitee occupied the palace and the family had to leave.

D.Duarte Nuno would die soon after and by then, D.Duarte Pio and his brothers lived mostly in Santar and later in Sintra

Hope this would help
José

 

[Elsa M.]

Here's a article published by 24 Horas, about the education of the Infantes:

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[JSP]

Good grief !

I saw the cover of 24 Horas last sunday but I did not pay much attention, since it is (one of) our local tabloids.

But those photos !
Couldn't they find any more recent ones ?
I mean, these days D.Afonso is taller than D.Isabel.
In the article he looks he is 8 or 10...

 

[Elsa M.]

Yes, indeed! I suppose the image of a buch of little blond crowned heads sells better than any photo of teenagers

On another note, here's an article about the famous ice cream shop, Santini (in Cascais), which is celebrating 60 years old. D. Duarte Pio told DN that the best memories of his childhood are those of the ice creams Attilio, which he used to flavour during Summer vacations in Cascais. Nowadays, D. Duarte, D.ª Isabel and the children are also customers of this italian ice-cream parlour.

Santini festeja 60 anos com planos de expansão - dn - DN

 

[JSP]

Santini is indeed a must on ice cream .

I had read this summer that the brand would be "sort of" franchised after Logoplaste had taken a share on the business.

Hope it won't ruin a perfect almost home-made brand.

I am a regular there whenever in Cascais.

Santini had a plaque by Royal Appointement given by King Umberto II considering them the suppliers of the House of Savoy.

Interesting that you mentione that the Braganza family sejourned in Cascais. I've never heard that before.

Wonder where / with whom would they stay as there budget could not match the Bourbons, Savoys or Orléans - and those stayed at a certain distance in Ranholas near Sintra.

 

[Regina]

Santini is indeed wonderful. I know that saying "Santini's ice creams are the best" is a cliché but... they are really the best! Highly recommended

Here's a nice site about Santini's historial, with photos of kings and queens

 

[Elsa M.]

D.ª Isabel participated in a raising funds campaign for Banco do Bebé:

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[Marengo]

Judging from the tanned faces of the duchess and the other ladies, the weather in Lisbon must be great still. Sigh, wish I was there .

What is the Banco do Bebé? A charity organisation that collects baby clothes for poor children?

 

[Regina]

Judging from the tanned faces of the duchess and the other ladies, the weather in Lisbon must be great still. Sigh, wish I was there .

The weather in Lisbon is always great Even when the days are cold... we still have this warm and beautiful sun.

What is the Banco do Bebé? A charity organisation that collects baby clothes for poor children?

Yes, it is.

The two blond ladies are Mrs. Arnoso, married with José Arnoso, an old friend of King Juan Carlos of Spain and Branquinha Pinto Magalhães. The three ladies are always present at the annual Banco do Bebé initiatives.

 

[Warren]

The discussion of the family of Mrs Arnoso has been moved to the Portuguese Nobility thread.

 

[Elsa M.]

This week, at the Coach Museum (in Lisbon), the Duke of Bragança and the Foundation D. Manuel II signed an agreement with the Portuguese Society of Beers, which reaffirms Sagres Bohemia beer as the official supplier of the Portuguese Royal House. From now on, Sagres Bohemia is going to display the arms of the Royal House on the labels of its bottles.

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(from Lux magazine)

 

[Elsa M.]

Flash publishes a couple of paparazzi photos of D. Duarte strolling through Chiado (Lisbon), after some shopping in a Benetton store:

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[White Princess]

Could please anyone send me official portraits of The Duchess of Braganza (incluiding the one she wears tiaras )?

 

[Elsa M.]

Could please anyone send me official portraits of The Duchess of Braganza (incluiding the one she wears tiaras )?

Here're the official portraits by Homem Cardoso:

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More photos at:
Bem-vindos às Páginas Oficiais da Casa Real Portuguesahttp://www.casareal

 

[Elsa M.]

Next November 20th, D. Duarte is participating in a dinner organized by the Rotary Estoi Palace International

barlavento - Jornal de Informação Regional do Algarve

 

[Elsa M.]

According to Correio da Manhã, D.ª Isabel is showing symtoms of swine flu.
She's isolated in a separate part of the house, away from the children.

 

[JSP]

According to Correio da Manhã, D.ª Isabel is showing symtoms of swine flu.
She's isolated in a separate part of the house, away from the children.

VIP magazine has a different story. The cover of the magazine:

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According to them D.Isabel might have contracted the H1N1 virus during a voyage abroad last October - the date matches the wedding of Pss Isabel of Orléans-Bragança and Pr. Alexander of Stolberg in Brazil on Oct.16th.

The RF refuses to admit it was the swine flue, referring it was a mere common flue.

For safety reasons and precaution regarding her children, the Duchess stayed in quarentaine in her room for 10 days without any contact with them, but she is fully recovered and she even celebrated her birthday last Sunday .

 

[amedea]

I am happy the duchess has now recovered!
Wow, if her flue was on the magazines' covers, that must mean she's very popular!

 

[Elsa M.]

Wow, if her flue was on the magazines' covers, that must mean she's very popular!

I suppose the story made a cover of this yellow magazine, because it was supposed to be swine flu... the message was something along the lines of "Not even royalty is immune to the flu"

Glad to know it was mere speculation...