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Polls? I don't remember any serious poll being done in this issue for many years. I've heard some monarchists talking about a poll once made which resulted in 10% supporting monarchy and 10% supporting republic with the rest being indifferent. But, to be honest, I never "saw" the results of that poll. Anyway, the general idea I have is that monarchists are in a bigger number than most people think but the majority of the people doesn't care about this issue.
Yes. I think that was never made a serious poll on the subject.
Also I think there's more to monarchists than people think. And there are also people who are indifferent about the matter.

Another question, are people who doubt the rights of d. Duarte as head of the Portuguese Royal House...
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Another question, are people who doubt the rights of d. Duarte as head of the Portuguese Royal House...
Is there any other serious claimant? The current Braganca branch of Dom Duarte Pio is the only one left.
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There is no other serious claimant. There have been some other pseudo-claimants but they've never been credible, most monarchists didn't take them seriously and the rest of the population didn't even noticed they exist.
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Is there any other serious claimant? The current Braganca branch of Dom Duarte Pio is the only one left.
There is a man named Poidinami who claims to be heir to an alleged daughter bastada of King d. Carlos. But few take it seriously.

We also have the Duke of Loulé, but few support. And he just pops up ...

Yes the only serious and who works for the Portuguese monarchy is d. Duarte. And is the legitimate heir of the Portuguese Crown.
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Probably the young Prince of Beira could become even more popular than his father even if he seems too shy.
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In an interview with i, Duarte talked about the republican model Portuguese and other European countries, considering that the country can still host the royal family.
When asked if there really is a chance to get back in Portugal monarchy, Duarte said yes, "it's possible". "It is necessary that the Constitution be changed because the current one is forbidden to be a referendum in which the Portuguese to choose," noted the Duke of Bragança.

"For the sake of democracy, this issue should be openly discussed partly because many Republicans argue that no harm would be no that Portugal had a king head of state," said Duarte. It was also noted that if he could choose, Duarte adopt the currently existing model in Luxembourg, "the country with more economic success of Europe."
Noticias ao Minuto - Monarquia pode regressar? "Acredito que é possível"
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On this picture Dom Duarte Pio poses in front of the royal arms. I notice a lambel (a brisure, a label) on the arms. In European heraldry in general, such a lambel was used to mark a younger son or a cadency to indicate the junior branches (cadets) of a House.

That makes me wonder: does this mean that the Orléans-Bragança family in Brazil indeed is considered the senior branch and the Bragança family in Portugal the younger branch? Genealogically this is, but I assumed the two Houses were split in a House of Orléans-Bragança (Brazil) and a House of Bragança (Portugal), considering themselves different Houses in one dynasty. They also use two total different arms.

The Arms of the House of Bragança (here without lambel):



The Arms of the House of Orléans-Bragança:
The left shows the Arms of the House of Orléans and the right the Arms of Bragança (Brazil) with the same Arms of the House of Orléans in the cross:









Compare it with the Bourbons in France. When the last French Bourbon claimant died in 1883, the chef of the House of Orléans considered himself the most senior Prince in the House of France and removed the lambel from the Orléans Arms:

House of Orléans until 1883:
In azure proper three golden fleurs-de-lys with a silver lambel.
It shows it as a junior branch of the House of France.



House of Orléans, after 1883:
In azure proper three golden fleurs-de-lys.
It shows it as the senior branch of the House of France.



My conclusion: Dom Duarte Pio stands in front of the "wrong" arms? Maybe an ancient one which was once in use for a younger Prince?
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