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Hundreds of people (more than 500) remembered today King D. Carlos and his son, D. Luis Filipe, in Terreiro do Paço (Lisbon), the place where they were killed 100 years ago. I was there and I took pictures.D. Duarte, D. isabel and their son D. Afonso (together with Father Quintella -a catholic Priest- the one at your right) making a minute of silence. The two men behind D. Duarte are his brothers, the Infantes D. Miguel and D. Henrique. Father Quintella speaching. He mentioned how unfair was the murder of the King and remembered everyone that King D. Carlos was a Patriot who died for the Country. In the end, he invited everyone to pray with him a Salm from the Bible 1 2 The Chief of the Foundation Casa de Bragança speaking 1 2 D. Duarte talking with the journalists 1 2 3 4 ![]() D. Francisco Van Uden , a Cousin of D. Duarte, was present too. Some few pro-Monarchy would love to see him as the Pretender to the Throne of Portugal, instead of D.Duarte ![]() 1 2 |
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I'll try to post the photos I took of the RF. And I have a brief appearance at RTP coverage ![]() BTW the one you call "The Chief of the Foundation Casa de Bragança speaking" is one of the van Uden brothers, Adriano IIRC Last edited by Warren; 07-02-2008 at 07:09 AM. Reason: ed quote length |
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JSP, when you can please post your pictures! I would love to see them.
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I've tried to post them but I haven't been able.
How does one post photos here ? |
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Judging by your own photos, you were not that distant from the royal party. I was almost in front and had the fortune of having D.Duarte and the Pr. of Beira passing just in front of me when they went to put the wreath under the plaque honouring King D.Carlos and the Crown-Prince Luis-Filipe BTW the one you name "The Chief of the Foundation Casa de Bragança" is one of Francisco van Uden's brothers, Adriano if I am not mistaken. He was in charge of the program of the commemorations. From what I heard, the Foundation of the House of Bragança likes to mark its distance from the RF and focus on running its estates. Another lesson please. The photos I posted had the http....., while yours are numbered 1,2,3... and other posters write directly the person in the pics D.Duarte, D.Isabel, etc. How does one post a picture with the name of the person instead of the http ? Last edited by Warren; 12-17-2008 at 10:55 AM. Reason: quote length |
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Are you sure it's Adriano? Quote:
I spent years trying to understand what you're asking.I don't know if there is another method to do this, but here is how I put "titles" on the pics: 1 - you have the link of one of your pics. http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...2008001ru9.jpg With the mouse (right click) copy-shortcut it (Copiar Atalho). 2 - On your post you write the title you want to give to the picture, like 1, or D. Duarte and D. Afonso 3 - Select your title with the mouse (like you do when you want to copy a link) and then click on that small icon (a blue globe under the smiley icon) above your message. Type: http URL: (delete that http:// and just "past" the link of your picture) 4 - click OK
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Many thanks !
I will try it on a next occasion. As to your question, my mistake, it is not Adriano but his brother Nuno A link to the site of the comemoration with lots of info and photos (There is one of the crowd facing the podium where the RF and Father Quintella were standing. May be you appear in it ) :D. Carlos - 100 Anos |
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I was close to the RTP car so I was far :( But I would love to see myself here
I don't know much about Francisco Van Uden's brothers. But we don't see them together with D. Duarte quite often. It seems Nuno is closer to D. Duarte then the others. The only thing I surely know about Francisco family is that his mother, Adelaide Van Uden, was a Boxer dogs owner (Boxers da Caparica). She was forbidden by her children to have more boxers since she was getting old (I don't resist to tell that I have now my second boxer, and IMO they are a bit ugly but they are soo expressive and loyal )
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Thanks for these exclusive photos, Regina!
Here's a few more: PortugalDiário - as fotografias e reportagens em multimédia And a couple of videos: IOL Videos - Reportagens video sobre toda a actualidade Cerimónias do centenário do regicídio envoltas em polémica - RTP Notícias Quem foi D. Carlos? - RTP Notícias Estátua do Rei D.Carlos inaugurada em Cascais - RTP Notícias The President of the Republic, Cavaco Silva, inaugurated today in Cascais a statue of king D. Carlos. According to Cavaco Silva, D. Carlos is one of the statesmen who most "did to promote the symbolic encounter with the national nature" and to project Portugal abroad, through the incentive to the scientific and technical development. Out of his "rare combination of gifts", Cavaco Silva stressed the king's sensibility to represent the maritime life and praised his studies of sea species and resources, as well as the creation of the first Portuguese laboratory of biology. The event was also attended by the Duke of Bragança, D. Duarte Pio, by the Mayor of Cascais, by the Secretary of State for Tourism, by the Head of the Army and by the President of the Academy of Letters and Arts, among other personalities. Last edited by Elsa M.; 02-01-2008 at 09:13 PM. |
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I've just found this website about the 1908 regicide, with some historical pictures:
The Portuguese Regicide - Photo Coverage And also a pictorial video about Queen D.ª Amélia: Last edited by Elsa M.; 02-05-2008 at 11:38 AM. |
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A few nore videos about the last monarchs and the regicide are hosted at YouTube:
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Thank you both for keeping us updated. Nice that you were able to attend the commemoration, Regina!
I was wondering why some would prefer Mr. Van Uden as a pretender of the throne? A Portuguese friend of mine described him once as 'some sort of fascist', so hence the wondering. Nice that the eldest son of the Duke of Baraganca attended the mass too. Did the other two children attend?
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Great videos, Elsa. My favourite is this one:
Poor Queen. :( I don't think the other children attended the Mass. D. Francisco Van Uden is not a fascist. He doesn't have any reason to be one. Her mother was condemned to death by Gestapo when she was living in Austria and I have never heard him talking against democracy.Francisco was a brilliant officer of the Portuguese Army. He received condecorations for his services in our African wars. D. Francisco is the son of Nicolaas Johannes Maria Van Uden (a Dutch) and Dª Maria Adelaide de Bragança, Infanta of Portugal. Dª Adelaide is D. Duarte's aunt, since she was sister of D. Duarte's father, D. Duarte Nuno. Dª Adelaide and D. Duarte Nuno were the younger children of D. Miguel de Bragança (for some, King D. Miguel II). D. Miguel has always lived on exile. The Miguelistas were banned from Portugal around 1830. Some people say that D. Duarte Nuno could never be the Pretender to the Throne because he was not the closest Relative of D. Manuel II, the last King of Portugal. He was only his distant cousin. The closest relative was a half-sister of D. Manuel, an illegitimate daughter of D. Carlos. As illegitimate children are ineligible, D. Duarte Nuno was chosen as the royal pretender. The problem is that he was an Austrian, not a Portuguese. His sisters (including Dª Maria Adelaide) were not Portuguese either. D. Duarte Pio was born in Switzerland as an Austrian just like his father. Dª Adelaide is a mother of 4 children: Francisco Van Uden is the third one but he and his younger and only sister were the only children of her who were born in Portugal. The Royal Constitutional Letter of 1842, article 8, says that a future king cannot be naturalized in foreign soil, as it happened with D. Duarte Nuno and his son. Therefore, D. Francisco Van Uden is for some (including me ) the right Pretender to the Throne of Portugal. It doesn't mean we dislike D. Duarte. I would respect and acccept him as my King, but imo the right one should be D. Francisco.D. Duarte Nuno claimed that he and his son, D. Duarte Pio, were born as Portuguese but there is the strong suspicion that in 1961 he tried to falsify the birth certificates of him and his son. Here is a great interview with D. Francisco (only in Portuguese). |
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(Perhaps it would be better to move this discussion to the Royal Family thread... I have an old issue, from 2004, of Notícias Magazine, with a great profile/interview with Infanta D. Adelaide) Last edited by Elsa M.; 02-23-2008 at 04:55 PM. |
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Pictures of the Mass in memory of King D. Carlos and Prince Luis Filipe (from Caras Magazine, scanned by me)
More than 1500 persons attended the Mass Dukes of Bragança and his son arriving to the Ceremony The Dukes of Bragança D. Afonso with Infanta Dª Adelaide (mother of D. Francisco Van Uden), Dª Teresa de Orleães e Bragança, and D. Henrique. Diana and Claudine de Cadaval Requiem for D. Manuel II in Westminster Cathedral, 14th July of 1932. Dª Augusta Victoria and Dª Amelia, the Widow and the Mother of D. Manuel, respectively. |
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Back to the Regicide, one of the most interesting books that are now republished is D. Manuel's journal, where he tells his own version of that traumatizing event. It's being republished by Ésquilo and here are a few excerpts:
DN Online: NAS PÃGINAS DO DIÃRIO DE D. MANUEL II |
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, I didn't know anything about the existence of this book. I will buy it for sure.
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