Monarchy of Portugal 1: 2004 - February 2006

[Warren]

Thank you Elsa for all the work in putting together this wonderful 'list and pics' of the Queens of Portugal. Much appreciated. :)

[Marengo]

It is indeed! Phillipa of Lancaster, Inez de Castro and Leonor de Telles are my favourites btw. Which was the one whose corpse was crowned (according to the legend?), Leonor, right?
Phillipa of Lancaster was the one of 'all roses my lord', now wasn't she? And who came to the battlefield on a donkey to stop her husband and son to battle against each other.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

Yes, she's known here as the "Super Tia"... that kind of person that is famous for no other reason than being famous
Not really... she's a co-editor of a "pink" magazine.

An aged Paris Hilton. The most vulgar one in Portugal is that american woman however, of a diamondfirm? She is married to a...uhm...extravagant guy called Castelo Branco I believe?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Marengo

... She is married to a...uhm...extravagant guy called Castelo Branco I believe?

Do you mean "flamboyant"?

[Marengo]

That is a way to describe him as well, all euphemistic terms for the same, isn't it? But judge for yourself, a link with Jose Castelo Branco and Betty Grafstein: http://libreopinion.com/members/badb...elo_branco.jpg

To compensate this non-royal remarks, a link with lots & lots of information on the portuguese royals: http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Portugal.html

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Which was the one whose corpse was crowned (according to the legend?), Leonor, right?

As you can see in my notes, Inês de Castro is the one who was crowned after dead. Pedro and Inês incarnate one of all-times most famous love stories.

Phillipa of Lancaster was the one of 'all roses my lord', now wasn't she? And who came to the battlefield on a donkey to stop her husband and son to battle against each other

No, that was the Saint Queen Isabel de Aragão(wife of D. Dinis).

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Marengo

An aged Paris Hilton. The most vulgar one in Portugal is that american woman however, of a diamondfirm? She is married to a...uhm...extravagant guy called Castelo Branco I believe?

Hmm, it's hard to choose who's the most ridiculous... just to have an idea, both Lili Caneças and that androgynous creature named José Castelo Branco are habitués of reality shows... a kind of Big Brother but with "celebrities" and cows in the mix...

[Danielane]

The today edition of Point de Vue has a paper about Ines de Castro and don Pedro. Very interesting one. Unfortunately I have no scan :(

[Elsa M.]

The love between Pedro and Inês is immortalized in several plays and poems throughout Europe, including the most important Portuguese epopee, The Lusíadas by Luís Vaz de Camões.

[Marengo]

Thanks for correcting me, I have read a cartoon thing about the history of portugal (50 years old or something), really nice, buit I am mixing them up now. Leonor was the one who was so hated by everybody then?

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Leonor was the one who was so hated by everybody then?

Yes, Leonor Telles de Menezes (wife of D. Fernando) is the one known as "A Aleivosa" (The Slanderous), because she seduced D. Fernando, who managed the dissolution of her previous wedding to one of his courtiers (alleging remote family connections). The People didn't like it and it caused social and political instability. You can read more about it here.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

Yes, Leonor Telles de Menezes (wife of D. Fernando) is the one known as "A Aleivosa" (The Slanderous), because she seduced D. Fernando, who managed the dissolution of her previous wedding to one of his courtiers (alleging remote family connections). The People didn't like it and it caused social and political instability. You can read more about it here.

This would be such good material for a movie... if only we could interest Hollywood for it . The things I read about her was in the cartoon/historybook for children, from the fascist times, so everything was a bit more positive there... Anyway, I still like Leonor, she adds some colour to history.

btw, my sister-in-law often signs things (non official) with Ines de Castro (which is one of her last names, as you in Portugal all have so many!), which still makes as her as happy as a naughty schoolgirl.

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Anyway, I still like Leonor, she adds some colour to history.

I agree with you. The Portuguese chronicler Fernão Lopes (1380?– 1460?), in Crónica de D. João I, comments on the strategist character of D.ª Leonor Telles, A Aleivosa, and notices that, in spite of her censurable conduct, after she became queen, the women of the time learned to have new "manners" with their husbands. They could accept or reject the model, but, still, they would see her as a mirror...

[Elsa M.]

Bringing on some more curiosities about the Portuguese monarchs...

D. Carlos de Bragança, who reigned between 1889 and 1908, was an extraordinary intelligent and dynamic man that showed interest for diversified activities, such as Art and Science (namelly Ornithology and Oceanography). The merit of his works was internationally recognized and sanctioned by the most important scientific institutions of the time. Throughout the years, D. Carlos was able to form a zoological collection (including naturalized animals, conserved in liquid, as well as an extensive bibliography about his scientific activity) of incalculable historical and scientific value. Nowadays, the personal compilation of king D. Carlos is kept in the Aquarium Vasco da Gama.

Besides, HM was also a prominent painter, whose vocation was revealed since early age. His enthronement took place in 1889 but, in spite of all the functions, he always managed to find some free time for drawing and painting. After participated in several exhibitions, his water-colours were most renewed for choosing motifs taken out of the Portuguese landscape; from the vast plains of Alentejano or the perfumed moorlands of Ribatejo, to the grassy mountains of the North, but, above all, the Portuguese sea and its boats.

Here are some of those sketches. From Museu da Marinha:




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[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

The love between Pedro and Inês is immortalized in several plays and poems throughout Europe, including the most important Portuguese epopee, The Lusíadas by Luís Vaz de Camões.

A French writer, Henry de Montherlant, has written La Reine Morte (the dead queen), which subject is this tragic love.

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Danielane

A French writer, Henry de Montherlant, has written La Reine Morte (the dead queen), which subject is this tragic love.

The most interesting IMO is the diversity of approaches that this love story has inpired throughout the centuries. The first reference was probably made in the 14th century (by the Jewish David ben Yom Tov Ibn Bilia) and today the story keeps feeding on the post-modernist imagination of many novelists and poets, who are now more interested in undoing myths and languages.

[KatieLouise]

This is a great thread! Does anyone know of books about the Portuguese monarchy in English? :)