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Old 07-09-2003, 03:50 PM
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Swedish Royal Jewels of the Past

help me out and identify these jewllery
do you regonnice any of the jewllwery these ladies wears
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:10 AM
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Queen Desideria
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:23 AM
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queen Josefina
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:17 PM
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:11 PM
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I think in post number 5,the 4th picture is queen Josefina and not queen Desiree,just look at this picture
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:08 PM
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maybe let me look into it i have scanned the photos from a book about swedish queens they may have come in the wrong order

and if anyone can help out with the differemnt jewllery please help out
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Old 02-27-2005, 07:25 PM
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cute girl you are right Q D is in the photo but to the left of Queen Joefina thank you for telling me
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Old 03-02-2005, 07:58 AM
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can someone help me to identify some of the tiaras at princess christinas wedding
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:18 PM
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It looks like queen Ingrid have the ruby set on, who is a part of the danish crown jewels.
Last time we have seen it was on Mary
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Old 01-06-2006, 08:35 PM
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I believe it was Queen Ingrid's favorite jewelry and that she brought it with her from Sweden to Denmark. As far as I know it doesn't belong to the crown.

I think Mary wears it so much 1) because it's the only set she has or 2) because it means a lot to Frederik that his wife wears his late grand mother's favorite jewelry.

Oh, what an exiting thread this is. Seeing all these old queens with jewelry that Queen Silvia and the princesses wear today.
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:30 PM
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This is a really cool thread Josefine! Seeing past Swedish ladies wearing the Baden Fringe tiara (below) just like Victoria. I like the fact that these jewels have passed down from generation to generation. Just makes it more exciting!
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...1&d=1108049412

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...5&d=1108542183
(^Is this the Cameo Tiara?) If it is, I hope we'll have future pictures of Victoria and Madeleine wearing it on their wedding day!
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:15 PM
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Color Images

I posted color images of some of these pics of Queens Desideria, Josefine, and Lovisa at:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...s-past-67.html
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:54 PM
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Yes, that is the Cameo Tiara....Queen Silvia wore on her wedding day.
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Old 01-07-2006, 04:34 PM
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A great thread indeed Josefine, thank you so much for putting so much work into it!
As far as the identification jewels is concerned, here's all I can come up with:
Your Post No. 2:
Pic # 2 shows the Baden Fringe tiara and the choker which is mostly worn by Pr. Madeleine these days.
Pics # 5 & 6: The Braganca tiara.
Your Post No. 3:
Princess Ingrid before she became Queen of Denmark, wearing the full cameo parure.
Your Post No. 4:
Pic # 1 I believe shows the diamond tiara that is worn by Queen Sonja of Norway these days,
Pic # 4 is definitely the cameo tiaa, which raises a muc-discussed question again: Did it become part of the Bernadotte collection through the Leuchtenberg inheritance, like the sapphire parure, or was it there before? I always thought that it in fact belonged to the first Bernadotte Queen, Desideria, which would make it the oldest, most historical tiara in the Royal Swedish House.
Your Post No. 5:
I believe that Pic # 3 shows the Leuchtenberg sapphire tiara in its original setting with upstanding pearl spikes.
Pic # 5 is most intriguing: What a charming tiara and full parure of beautiful coloured stones that 've never seen before! You might post this on the Royal Jewels MB for our real experts to start a hunt of identifying this set!
Your Post No. 6:
Pic # 3: The pearl & diamond brooch shown here has been worn by all of today's Royal Swedish ladies.
Post No. 10:
Princess Lilian is wearing her Laurel Leaf tiara which is quite interesting as she was not married to Prince Bertil yet at this time & therefore not even a 'real' member of the RF!
Again, thanks so much for your efforts Josefine. Much appreciated.
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Pic # 4 is definitely the cameo tiaa, which raises a muc-discussed question again: Did it become part of the Bernadotte collection through the Leuchtenberg inheritance, like the sapphire parure, or was it there before? I always thought that it in fact belonged to the first Bernadotte Queen, Desideria, which would make it the oldest, most historical tiara in the Royal Swedish House.
Oh my God, all this scrolling up and down. Phew !! So cool you know so much about the queen's tiaras !!

Pic 4 in the Desideria post I think (as cute_girl mentioned) it's actually Josefina. She's entertaining the two children just like on the bigger family painting like in post 7.

I found this text about the Cameo set:
http://royal-jewels4.tripod.com/bernadotte/cameo.html
(I have absolutely no idea who the third photo below the text is, down, to the left)

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Pic # 5 is most intriguing: What a charming tiara and full parure of beautiful coloured stones that 've never seen before! You might post this on the Royal Jewels MB for our real experts to start a hunt of identifying this set!
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...9&d=1108596073
You mean this picture ??
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Sorry, regarding the unidentified parure of colored stones I was really referring to Pic # 6 in Josefine's Post No. 5:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...9&d=1108596073

Sorry too for the lots of scrolling up & down indeed which is bound to make one confuse things from time to time! But Josefine provided such great pics from the past that it should be worth it.
I have no idea either who the 'third lady' is on
http://royal-jewels4.tripod.com/bernadotte/cameo.html

I'm also puzzled by the comment there that it's not quite sure whether the cameo parure is part of the Bernadotte Foundation. I always took it for granted that it was...
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can someone help me to identify some of the tiaras at princess christinas wedding
Connaught Laurel Wreath tiara worn by the bride, Desideria ruby parure by Queen Ingrid, Desideria diamond tiara by Queen Sonja, Laurel wreath tiara by Lillian, Queen Louise's tiara by Princess Desiree, Four button tiara by Princess Brigitta, Swedish Aquamarine tiara by Princess Margaretha of Sweden, Wurrtember pearl tiara by Beatrix. There are full colour pictures in the Royal Families of the World by Reginal Davies (1979).
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I believe it was Queen Ingrid's favorite jewelry and that she brought it with her from Sweden to Denmark. As far as I know it doesn't belong to the crown.

I think Mary wears it so much 1) because it's the only set she has or 2) because it means a lot to Frederik that his wife wears his late grand mother's favorite jewelry.

Oh, what an exiting thread this is. Seeing all these old queens with jewelry that Queen Silvia and the princesses wear today.
The tiara was actually brought to Denmark by Louise "Swan" of Sweden, who was the grandmother of Queen Ingrid's husband. The set is not a part of the crown jewels & is actually owned by Crown Prince Frederick. It was left to him by his grandmother.
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The tiara was actually brought to Denmark by Louise "Swan" of Sweden, who was the grandmother of Queen Ingrid's husband. The set is not a part of the crown jewels & is actually owned by Crown Prince Frederick. It was left to him by his grandmother.
I found this site on the internet, which contains beautiful pictures of many Norwegian and Danish jewels.

http://www.gemmologi.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=14

So interesting that the ruby parure goes all the way back to Queen Desideria and that it 1) wasn't made part of the Bernadotte foundation 2) was brought to Denmark by crown princess Louise and 3) wasn't really seen before Queen Ingrid had it changed and started using it.

I mean, none of the many pictures with Desideria and Josefina show the ruby parure.

If the ruby parure belongs to Frederik it's a delicate question what would happen if Frederik and Mary, like Joachim and Alexandra, were divorced ?? I wonder if Mary or Alexandra own any of the jewels that make them look like princesses in our eyes ? (Alexandra is often seen with one certain tiara I believe is from Queen Alexandrine. I wonder if she owns it or just is allowed to use it as long as she lives.)

I think they should put all the jewelry in a family foundation like the Swedish so it can't suddenly end up in just anybody's possesion if a divorced princess runs out of cash and puts it in an auction.
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Desideria wore it to Napoleon's coronation. And, AFAIRC, it was seen before Ingrid had it changed and started using it, there are pictures somewhere. Thanks for the link.
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