Romanian Royal Jewels


If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.
See posts with no answers
L

Lord Rossmore

Commoner
Joined
Oct 21, 2009
Messages
26
City
Ireland
Country
Ireland
I was wondering if there are any Jewels left in Romania to the Royal Family apart for the Greek Tiara that is so often seen on Crown Princess Margarita.
.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I don't think so because Queen Marie divided her jewellery collection in an awfully fair way between her children :D and most of her jewels went to her girls, so there weren't many pieces that stayed in with her grandson Michael.
 
However! Per John Sullivan's book on Ducky, Missy bought a large amount of jewelry from her sister to help her out. And a lot of it came from their mother, GD Marie.
 
Yes she did had an inheritance from her mother but most of her personal jewelery were stolen during WWI because ironically she had sent them in Russia to be safeguarded. However, Romania came out stronger from the war I believe and due to her popularity and the excellent work she had done during the war, Ferdinard gave her freedom to buy whatever she liked in order to rebuilt her collection. She bought Miechen's fabulous sapphire Kokoshnik from her sister and many other Romanov and pieces, as well as some Cartier. However, most of her jewels went to her daughters - I guess she believed Carol and Madame Lupescu couldn't be trusted around precious stones :D
 
snowflower said:
Yes she did had an inheritance from her mother but most of her personal jewelery were stolen during WWI because ironically she had sent them in Russia to be safeguarded.
Click to expand...
Missy's? Russo's ADD is flaring up and isn't quite clear on this. :flowers:

Ah! But do you have PICS????? :D
 
Sadly no I do not have pictures yet , I haven't researched her jewellery much - which is a crime considering her collection. . I made a mistake in my previous post because Marie did lost many jewels during WWI but they were not an inheritance from her mother since then her mother was pretty much alive :cool:.When WWI broke up Marie sent her most important jewellery for safekeeping in The National Bank in Russia but the Bolsheviks refused flatly to return to her even a sigle pearl and she was quite devastated because the collection came from her late father and as she put it " it was all he had left me " (i wouldn't trust that statement much because she was always kind of exagerating in words - besides Prince Alfred should be more rich than that. ) So, after the war she brought new pieces and was comforted for her loss I guess with all these Romanovs jewels. We mostly remember Queen Mary as a collector, but Missy wasn't shy on jewels either.
 
Why would she send them to Russia instead of England? Russo wonders.
From the Sullivan book, GD Marie, Missy and Ducky's mother (By the the Duchess of Coburg) had placed hers in a safe in Switzerland. Since Ducky was always her favorite, she gave Ducky the diamonds whereas Missy got pearls. Though the writer had said that the diamonds were more valuable, I'm sure the pearls were stunners as well!!
 
Russophile said:
Why would she send them to Russia instead of England? Russo wonders.
Click to expand...
The Romanian government decided to send a part of the national treasure and gold deposit in Russia and I guess Missy decided that her jewels would be safe if they were placed there too. However, the Bolsheviks only returned the money (and I am not sure if it was the whole amount).
 
No, they had not returned much. It is an ongoing discussion between the two countries, especially when it comes to any kind of treaty signing.:ermm:
 
ClaudiaE said:
No, they had not returned much. It is an ongoing discussion between the two countries, especially when it comes to any kind of treaty signing.:ermm:
Click to expand...
As a gesture of good faith, one would hope Russia would give them BACK!
 
As beautiful as this tiara is, I am not liking CP Margarita's hair being teased over the top of it. Makes it look a little costume-y to me.
 
IloveCP said:
Not a fan at all of this tiara.I don't like the design.
Click to expand...

That's not a great angle--I have seen photos where it is impressive--but overall, it doesn't crack my list of favorite tiaras.
 
snowflower said:
I guess she believed Carol and Madame Lupescu couldn't be trusted around precious stones :D
Click to expand...

I was reading biography of Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia in which he states that he visited his uncle Carol II during his exile in Portugal and that he and his wife were frequent visitors of Casino in Estoril in which Magda Lupescu was wearing some magnificent jewels...which one,he didn't mention!
 
Carol II left Romania with a considerable personal fortune, which undoubtedly gave him the means to purchase jewels for his wife. His mother's jewels were all retained by her and left to her daughters.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
So.. other than the Greek Key Tiara, nothing else is left? I know what happened historically, but am curious about the present time. Even the Bulgarian Royals seem to have three tiaras at their disposal.
 
Lady Marmalade said:
So.. other than the Greek Key Tiara, nothing else is left? I know what happened historically, but am curious about the present time. Even the Bulgarian Royals seem to have three tiaras at their disposal.
Click to expand...

It doesn't seem likely at all, when CP Margarita got married she borrowed the Essex tiara from Garrards in London, clearly the Romanians have very little jewellery left for them if CP Margarita had to borrow a tiara (albeit a stunning one) for her own wedding.
 
Do the Romanian royals only have use of this tiara?
I maybe wrong but I haven't seen the Crown Princess wear anything else with the exception the tiara for her wedding,which was on loan I believe?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
It is possible they had to sell of a lot of the jewellery to maintain a certain level of lifestyle but I still find it hard to believe there is only one tiara in the family. This said, I haven't seen the Crown Princess (or her sisters) in anything but the Greek Key Tiara either.

As for Margarita's wedding tiara, it was indeed a loan; she wore the Essex tiara currently owned by Cartier.

- The Essex Tiara worn by the Crown Princess on her wedding day.
 

Attachments

  • 547f257b.jpg
    547f257b.jpg
    31.5 KB · Views: 2,586
Last edited by a moderator:
.

Unfortunately it is all that is left from the Romanian royal jewels...
First the bulk of the jewels were lost in the WWI in Russia, then after King Ferdinand gave a free hand to Queen Mary to replace the lost jewels she bequeathed the majority of her jewels to her daughters and those that went to his sons Carol and Nicolas ended up with their respective wives and probably sold.
The Greek tiara was gifted directly to Princess Helen by Q Mary and her coronation necklace with the huge sapphire to King Michael. During her lifetime Princess and later queen Helen has never worn(publicly) any other major piece of jewelry. She had some pearl necklaces a couple of diamond brooches and some diamond and pearl earrings.
The coronation necklace was probably broken up and sold, or there be maybe a part of it left....
Queen Anne and pr. Margarita has worn on several occasions a sapphire demi-parure but I hadn't seen it in the last 20 years, so it may be sold already...
So I'm afraid that there's only the Greek key tiara and some modern diamond necklaces.
 
Yes I had thought there would be another smaller tiara but it appears not :sad:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
lightningbearer said:
It doesn't seem likely at all, when CP Margarita got married she borrowed the Essex tiara from Garrards in London, clearly the Romanians have very little jewellery left for them if CP Margarita had to borrow a tiara (albeit a stunning one) for her own wedding.
Click to expand...

I wonder why she did not wear the Greek key? Does anyone know or has anyone heard any reason?
 
This tiara on Queen Marie is simply horrible! :eek: Just way too much and ostentatious for my taste.
 
Last edited:
:previous:
It's more of a headdress of sorts than what we would call a "tiara" or a "jewelled head ornament".
In any case it's very Queen Marie, and she knew it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Blog Real
Curtea de Argeș Cathedral (burial place of the Romanian Royal Family)
Replies
1
Views
422
Blog Real
Blog Real
Marengo
Jordanian Royal Jewels 2: Jan 2024 -
Replies
0
Views
608
Marengo
Marengo
Marengo
Queen Camilla Jewels 2: February 2024 -
2
Replies
41
Views
4K
muriel
muriel
Tilia C.
Crown Princess Marie-Chantal Jewels 2: 2023 -
Replies
1
Views
631
doro
doro
Tilia C.
Queen Silvia Jewels 4: Jun 2023 -
2
Replies
30
Views
3K
LadyFinn
LadyFinn

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom