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Old 07-11-2019, 05:41 AM
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The deco tiara loan from Queen Paola to Princess Mathilde because her tiara was not ready for her wedding dauy is the very last between the 2 Queens.
I don't think we will see other jewels from Queen Fabiola .
A shame. I do hope that Queen Paola bequeaths her Art Deco tiara to Mathilde or to Elizabeth, so it returns to the main line.

It would also be nice if Mathilde could acquire a new versatile tiara, that could be used with different stones interchangeably.
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:55 AM
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It would be a huge surprise if Astrid doesn't receive the art deco tiara. Paola can't be bothered with thinking about the royal function of jewellery AAIK.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:06 AM
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It would be a huge surprise if Astrid doesn't receive the art deco tiara. Paola can't be bothered with thinking about the royal function of jewellery AAIK.

Princess Astrid is Paola's only daughter. Logical that she receives her mother's personal jewelry.

Note that King Philippe is perfectly able to purchase a new diadem. If he can buy a new holiday home, a new yacht, a new car, he can purchase a diadem. No problem.


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Old 07-11-2019, 03:33 PM
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This blog claims the dragonfly brooch that Mathilde wore in Germany is a 1920s diamond and sapphire piece acquired at an auction in 2018.

I don't know if that information is accurate or reliable.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:22 AM
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Queen Elisabeth's Art Deco Bandeau | The Court Jeweller

I love this tiara. Very beautiful and elegant.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:04 PM
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For the State Banquet in Luxembourg on October 15 Queen Mathilde wore the Nine Provinces Tiara:
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:14 PM
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Its a tiara for a queen and Mathilde wears it with pride but I wish the Belgian jewel chest wasn't so depleted and they had reacquired some of the historic family jewels.
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Its a tiara for a queen and Mathilde wears it with pride but I wish the Belgian jewel chest wasn't so depleted and they had reacquired some of the historic family jewels.
King Philippe will have to buy wedding gift tiaras for his two daughters-in-law and maybe for his two daughters too. Maybe he is saving for the future given that the Belgian royal family is not particularly wealthy.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:22 PM
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King Albert II was well enough off to buy himself a $6.6 million yacht named Alpa less than a decade ago so he must have spent the Belgian jewel fund!
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:26 PM
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The present King was wealthy enough to buy himself a helicopter so it is a matter of priorities perhaps.

A few small tiaras should be possible to acquire. Small tiara's with small stones can sell for 20.000 euros or less. The tiara that was acquired for Pss Claire was far from extravagant - and her new one even less so. That is IF the King acquires tiaras at all. It is possible that the younger siblings(-in-law) will simply not wear a tiara apart from on their wedding day. Let's hope that Pss. Elisabeth will at least be/have been given/left Q. Elisabeth's bandeau or the Spanish Floral tiara.
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The present King was wealthy enough to buy himself a helicopter so it is a matter of priorities perhaps.

A few small tiaras should be possible to acquire. Small tiara's with small stones can sell for 20.000 euros or less. The tiara that was acquired for Pss Claire was far from extravagant - and her new one even less so. That is IF the King acquires tiaras at all. It is possible that the younger siblings(-in-law) will simply not wear a tiara apart from on their wedding day. Let's hope that Pss. Elisabeth will at least be/have been given/left Q. Elisabeth's bandeau or the Spanish Floral tiara.
I think they will have to wear tiaras as Eleonore and Gabriel’s and Emmanuel’s wives will probably attend state dinners unless they don’t live permanently in Belgium.
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:20 PM
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I know it is blasphemy on a forum like ours but it is possible that they attend state visits without wearing a tiara. Princess Claire has done so in the past.

We will have to wait and see if they attend state dinners or if the King prefers to limit the more active and visible members of the family. We saw today in Luxembourg that Prince Guillaume and Princess Sybilla -who are supposed to live in Luxembourg- did not attend the state banquet of the Belgian king. The same goes for the Spanish infantas. This downsizing trend may reach the Belgian court at one point.
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I think they will have to wear tiaras as Eleonore and Gabriel’s and Emmanuel’s wives will probably attend state dinners unless they don’t live permanently in Belgium.
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I know it is blasphemy on a forum like ours but it is possible that they attend state visits without wearing a tiara. Princess Claire has done so in the past.

We will have to wait and see if they attend state dinners or if the King prefers to limit the more active and visible members of the family. We saw today in Luxembourg that Prince Guillaume and Princess Sybilla -who are supposed to live in Luxembourg- did not attend the state banquet of the Belgian king. The same goes for the Spanish infantas. This downsizing trend may reach the Belgian court at one point.
Having limited future apanage funding to Princess Elisabeth, leaving her siblings to support themselves professionally, will probably downsize the siblings' programs of activities in comparison to Princess Astrid's and Prince Laurent's during their father's reign, and that might extend to their spouses as well.
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:50 AM
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If King Philippe buys some Jewels for his daughter's and future daughter-in-laws. it would be better to acquire some diamond necklaces which convert to tiaras so there is more fleixibility to use them. And hen it would be wise not to givge them as personal property but held them in Trust as monarch so the can be lend out if a occasion to wear them comes up. This wqy the peaces could be used by several Family membes.
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:12 AM
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If King Philippe buys some Jewels for his daughter's and future daughter-in-laws. it would be better to acquire some diamond necklaces which convert to tiaras so there is more fleixibility to use them. And hen it would be wise not to givge them as personal property but held them in Trust as monarch so the can be lend out if a occasion to wear them comes up. This wqy the peaces could be used by several Family membes.
Indeed. But I would have thought that, in any case, they would have bought a few more pieces in recent years. For example, a good "work horse" diamond necklace (to supplement the Wolfers), and a few other critical bits.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:24 AM
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I only know that Belgium has great jewellers, that Antwerp is important in diamonds, that King Philippe is not short on cash, so he must be able to buy nice items. Jewels are not arch expensive, in comparison with helicopters or motor yachts.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:43 AM
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Plenty of Belgian Royal Jewels of the past have gone on sale but the Belgian kings prefer to splash out on yachts/helicopters instead historic pieces associated with the RF .
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Indeed. But I would have thought that, in any case, they would have bought a few more pieces in recent years. For example, a good "work horse" diamond necklace (to supplement the Wolfers), and a few other critical bits.
I don’t think Mathilde is in need of another convertible necklace tiara . What she needs is a proper diadem to wear as an alternative to the Nine Provinces.

That wouldn’t be necessary if either Queen Elisabeth’s Cartier tiara, Queen Marie Jose's Fabergé tiara , or even Queen Elisabeth’s ( now Queen Paola’s) Art Deco bandeau were available to Mathilde. Unfortunately none of them are .

Two proper diadems ( the Nine Provinces plus another one) and two convertible necklaces should be enough for Mathilde’s needs. The large tiara collections seen in other European countries are of historical significance , but unnecessary for modern, frugal monarchies .
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The Cartier tiara of Queen Elisabeth is now owned by Cartier and they use it as one to the center pieces of their frequent expositions. They won't part with it easily, and I dare say that the price would be enormous. The Fabergé tiara would also be horrendously expensive, if it were to appear on the market again. We must accept that these jewels are gone.
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Princess Lillian sold that off didn't she in the late 1980's ,what a shame such an iconic piece of jewelry is no longer with them and now they have such a paltry jewel collection.
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