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01-31-2016, 05:34 AM
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According to a poster on the Royal Jewels Message Board, the golden bijoux worn by Máxima were from Joël Arthur Rosenthal (JAR), Place Vendôme 7, Paris...
I understand she is Her Majesty Queen Máxima, Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau and with that comes "a royal lifestyle" indeed. But tell me, a simple dude, what is the diffference between gold bijoux from a jeweller in Buenos Aires or Istanbul and gold bijoux from a jeweller at the Place Vendôme, apart from the prize tag?
It is only gold, I mean: in the soukh in Marrakech or at any jeweller in Beirut she can buy the same gold bijoux (or even more beautiful) for just a fraction of the prize she had to pay at the Place Vendôme, in Paris. That is what I do not understand. It is not that the golden bijoux from JAR is that amazingly unique, or am I thinking the wrong way? At the other hand... it could have been a gift too, of course. From the King or so.
Queen Máxima with her JAR gold: picture.
The atelier and jewellery of Joël Arthur Rosenthal is to the left of The Ritz hotel, off Place Vendôme. The shop has no display windows, nothing to indicate what happens inside. To open his door, someone needs an introduction from someone Monsieur Rosenthal knows, another client perhaps, or have a name that brooks no confusion... According to a report by Forbes, the craftsmen only create 70 to 80 pieces a year, each of them one of a kind and many designed with a particular buyer in mind. Monsieur Rosenthal reserves the right to refuse to sell an item if he doesn’t think it will look good on the intended wearer. His creations often sell for twice what the first buyer paid.
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01-31-2016, 04:22 PM
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I have seen alot of JAR jewelry. Im not sure thats correct info. I looks nothing like his jewels.
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02-11-2016, 03:32 PM
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Maxima's beautiful turquoise earrings and ring:
Queen Máxima | Getty Images
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03-09-2016, 06:55 PM
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03-12-2016, 11:25 AM
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I will let you awesome photo posters post pics but Max was wearing some of her beautiful dangle ruby earrings and a royal diamond choker....awesome! Is it just me or does the choker look a bit shined up? Maybe polished?
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04-03-2016, 12:12 PM
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These are STATEMENT necklaces in the true sense of the meaning!! She's the only royal who gets away with such items.
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04-03-2016, 12:20 PM
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Yes are STATEMENT but still for me is UGLY!!!
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04-08-2016, 10:41 AM
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She is so tall and Beautiful she can wear anything...and i love her for being natural..she is not plastic like some others....
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04-16-2016, 08:49 AM
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Queen Máxima donned some serious bling in the Rathaus in München: picture 1 and picture 2.
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04-16-2016, 09:27 AM
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Serious diamonds yes, but still very simple and elegant. I much prefer jewellery like this on Queen Maxima than some of the modern costume jewellery she wears.
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04-16-2016, 10:57 AM
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Serious diamonds yes, but still very simple and elegant. I much prefer jewellery like this on Queen Maxima than some of the modern costume jewellery she wears.
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She does not really wear costume jewelry. Costume jewelry = make-believe jewelry. Wearing glass beads looking like diamonds or sapphires. Yes, she has worn wooden necklaces, copper pendants, enamel broches, feathery bijoux and polyester earrings but they are exactly what they are: wood, copper, enamel, feathers and polyester. She is not wearing paste rubies or plastic pearls.
Costume jewelry is what you see whan an actress in a play or a singer in an opera wear a "diamond" parure, in reality all paste. So it is a matter of definition what costume jewelry is. This week Queen Máxima wore a grey coat with applications, but that is not really jewelry: it are applications to textile.
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04-16-2016, 11:43 AM
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She does not really wear costume jewelry. Costume jewelry = make-believe jewelry. Wearing glass beads looking like diamonds or sapphires. Yes, she has worn wooden necklaces, copper pendants, enamel broches, feathery bijoux and polyester earrings but they are exactly what they are: wood, copper, enamel, feathers and polyester. She is not wearing paste rubies or plastic pearls.
Costume jewelry is what you see whan an actress in a play or a singer in an opera wear a "diamond" parure, in reality all paste. So it is a matter of definition what costume jewelry is. This week Queen Máxima wore a grey coat with applications, but that is not really jewelry: it are applications to textile.
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I would have to disagree with you, costume jewellery is an item of jewellery made of inexpensive materials or jewellery worn as a fashion item. These can include imitation jewellery such as you mention in your post but also include pieces made from inexpensive materials such as beads, plastic, wood.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costume_jewelry
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04-16-2016, 12:46 PM
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I would have to disagree with you, costume jewellery is an item of jewellery made of inexpensive materials or jewellery worn as a fashion item. These can include imitation jewellery such as you mention in your post but also include pieces made from inexpensive materials such as beads, plastic, wood.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costume_jewelry
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It is Wikipedia... I disagree with it. An actress depicting Elizabeth I on stage wears costume jewelry, that means plastic "pearls" and glass "rubies". The word "costume" already reveals that it is meant for show.
But Queen Máxima is not pretending: what you see is what you get. She is not wearing a collier with glass beads pretending to be expensive diamonds.
What you see is what you get: delftware and gold in a collier (by Pauline Wiertz, the Netherlands) paired with Cartier golden earrings.
What you see is what you get: polished goldpainted wood, leather and lucite (by Gerda and Nikolaï Monies, Denmark)
What you see is what you get: a double golden chain with malachite, carnelian, mother of pearl, tiger eye (by Van Cleef & Arpels, Paris)
You will be shocked to see the prize tag attached to these bijoux, (the last one around 30.000 USD!). No any of these jewels pretend anything else than what they are showing and therefore I have some problems with the term "costume jewelry" (= plastic tiaras).
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04-16-2016, 12:52 PM
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thanks duke for the 'what you see is what you get' demonstration. maxima is one you can count on to show us how jewelry is done. i had no doubts ever since i saw her wearing this beauty. she really does not shy away from anything! well done to her. those amazing pieces need to be used!
is this necklace the same one that can be worn as a tiara?
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04-16-2016, 01:40 PM
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What Max wears is more 'fashion jewelry' then costume. Both are made out of cheaper materials meant to be more affordable for buyers. Where costume jewelry is meant to imitate real jewels, fashion jewelry is not. While it may include less precious gems, they aren't meant to imitate real pieces. This is where you find the copper, wood, metal and even plastic jewelry. Some are quite cheap like kid's pieces, and others as we have seen with Maxima, can be quite expensive.
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is this necklace the same one that can be worn as a tiara?
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It looks like it is.
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04-16-2016, 02:47 PM
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I think it is not the same actually. The diamonds worn in Germany seem to have a simular size while the ones in the bandeau -which can also be worn as a necklace- have various sizes. I think the necklace in Munich is the upper part of the triangular motive necklace:
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04-17-2016, 03:31 AM
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I think it is not the same actually. The diamonds worn in Germany seem to have a simular size while the ones in the bandeau -which can also be worn as a necklace- have various sizes. I think the necklace in Munich is the upper part of the triangular motive necklace:
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I agree. I think the diamonds in the Bandeau are more or less permanently set in a monture. The matching rivière is almost mirroring the Bandeau: picture.
I would not mind to see the beautiful big diamonds of the bandeau worn as a rivière: the effect must be awesome.
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04-17-2016, 07:53 AM
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The brooch is amazing. She is lucky because this royal family has impressive pieces of jewelry
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04-17-2016, 12:42 PM
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I don't know who many diamond rivieres the Dutch RF has, but I think it's more than one. The one she wore in Munich has amazing large stones, though I think that there's also one with smaller diamonds. The big one looks stunning in combination with the bandeau. Maxima also wore the combination at the gala before the inauguration, only that she had pendent attached to the necklace.
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