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Old 04-29-2017, 11:02 PM
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the sapphire was a necklace of a belgian princess that the queen bought a and they made a tiara frame for it , the aquamarine the queen commissioned it from Garrard in 1957 and the ruby tiara is a redesign of a diamond tiara that was a wedding gift and some rubies she got als as a wedding gift from burma .

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From Her Majesty's Jewel Vault: The Burmese Ruby Tiara

From Her Majesty's Jewel Vault: The Brazilian Aquamarine Parure

So the rubies were a gift from Burma and the aquamarines a gift from Brazil ! It is indeed convenient to be the Queen.
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:06 PM
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So the rubies were a gift from Burma and the aquamarines a gift from Brazil ! It is indeed convenient to be the Queen.
the necklace was a gift from brazil she commissioned the tiara to go with it .
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:40 PM
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How much do you think she got from Queen Mary?
The Queen Mother? She would have been left all the official pieces connected with the position of being Queen Consort. Privately we just don't know, as apparently Queen Mary enjoyed purchasing precious gems anonymously at auction (and there was a lot of primarily Russian noble and Romanov jewellery flooding world markets in the 1920s) and then altering necklaces and tiaras in her personal possession to please her own taste. So who knows how many necklaces, tiaras etc came into the present Queen's collection in that way.

This mostly deals with Mary's official jewellery but it's still fun. Queen Mary just loved shiny gems!

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Old 04-30-2017, 04:38 AM
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QM had to do something while GV was playing with his stamps.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:46 PM
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QM had to do something while GV was playing with his stamps.
Do you think The Queen inherited over 200 pieces of jewels from Queen Mary?
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:29 AM
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Oh yes. Much more. That doesn't include what she gave to her other children.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:22 PM
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Oh yes. Much more. That doesn't include what she gave to her other children.
I just want to know how much she left to The Queen.
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Old 05-01-2017, 04:25 PM
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The Queen has a great deal of jewels from her mother, grandmother and so forth. Not all of it has been seen in decades.
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I just want to know how much she left to The Queen.
I don't think anybody will ever have the answer to that question. Things that are transferred between family members because of a death remain private. I do think though that the Royal Archives keeps a list of some of the things that were passed on but perhaps someone who knows more than me can fill in on those details.

There are two things I associate most with HM, The Queen and that is she loves to wear pearls and has a stunning wedding bracelet that was designed by Philip as a wedding present and was made out of diamonds from his mother, Princess Alice of Greece and Denmark.
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I don't think anybody will ever have the answer to that question. Things that are transferred between family members because of a death remain private. I do think though that the Royal Archives keeps a list of some of the things that were passed on but perhaps someone who knows more than me can fill in on those details.

There are two things I associate most with HM, The Queen and that is she loves to wear pearls and has a stunning wedding bracelet that was designed by Philip as a wedding present and was made out of diamonds from his mother, Princess Alice of Greece and Denmark.
If you had to guess how much do you think she left to the Queen?
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Old 05-01-2017, 05:06 PM
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I don't have any kind of a clue. I would just go with "alot"
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I don't have any kind of a clue. I would just go with "alot"
I agree, "a lot" is the best guess we can make here! We don't even know how many pieces of jewellery Queen Mary personally owned in the the first place. Let alone, what passed to the Queen and what was given to other family members.
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Old 05-02-2017, 03:28 PM
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I agree, "a lot" is the best guess we can make here! We don't even know how many pieces of jewellery Queen Mary personally owned in the the first place. Let alone, what passed to the Queen and what was given to other family members.
If Queen Mary is credited for revolutionizing the royal jewels then I would say she had over 500 pieces of jewelry.
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Old 05-02-2017, 03:38 PM
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Queen Mary did give away jewels to minor branches of the family but given the nature of inheritance laws in the UK, I think most of her jewels found their way down the main line to HM The Queen.
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Queen Mary did give away jewels to minor branches of the family but given the nature of inheritance laws in the UK, I think most of her jewels found their way down the main line to HM The Queen.
A lot went off to the Kents, Gloucesters and other children of George V and QM, which dud not even up back in the main line. You only need to see the Gloucester collection (6 tiaras? ) to get a sense of how much ended up outside the main line of the BRF.
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A lot went off to the Kents, Gloucesters and other children of George V and QM, which dud not even up back in the main line. You only need to see the Gloucester collection (6 tiaras? ) to get a sense of how much ended up outside the main line of the BRF.
I mean The Queen got like 9 tiaras or more from Queen Mary.
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Actually many she didn't get from her grandmother, she got from her mother.

Queen Mary had basically three categories. There were the Crown Jewels abd royal collection which automatically pass to next monarch. She had private jewels she inherited from Alexandra and Victoria. And then she had her magpie pieces, those she personally acquired over years.

The ones she inherited, that were private, for the most part like the royal collection, went to the queen mum. There are exceptions. Those she acquired personally she was extremely generous with her daughter in laws and family.

There is no accurate record of how many pieces she acquired. Or how many remained in the main line and how many left it. The Gloucestets certainly have a fine selection of hers.

As there is no known amount of pieces she owned, it's pretty hard to even guess hpw many ended up with the queen.
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:36 PM
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Actually many she didn't get from her grandmother, she got from her mother.

Queen Mary had basically three categories. There were the Crown Jewels abd royal collection which automatically pass to next monarch. She had private jewels she inherited from Alexandra and Victoria. And then she had her magpie pieces, those she personally acquired over years.

The ones she inherited, that were private, for the most part like the royal collection, went to the queen mum. There are exceptions. Those she acquired personally she was extremely generous with her daughter in laws and family.

There is no accurate record of how many pieces she acquired. Or how many remained in the main line and how many left it. The Gloucestets certainly have a fine selection of hers.

As there is no known amount of pieces she owned, it's pretty hard to even guess hpw many ended up with the queen.
I think Queen Mary gave majority of her personal jewels to The Queen not the Queen mom. Whats the difference between the crown jewels and the royal collection?
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Like her daughter in laws Marina and Alice, Mary left a huge assortment to The queen mum. This includes the Delhi Dubar tiara and the fringe tiara Elizabeth II wore on her wedding. The queen often borrowed, but they belonged to her mother until 2002. Unlike the royal collection which belonged to the monarch, these were the queen mums personal inheritance and didn't pass to her daughter until she died.

As has been explained, the Crown Jewels refer to the official state jewels. These are the crowns, sceptre and other pieces used in only the most official occasions like a coronation. The royal collection, like the Crown Jewels, belong to whoever is on the throne. They automatically pass. These are jewels that can be used on any occasion. Any jewels that date before queen Victoria, belong to the royal collection. These can be worn as chosen but not sold or given away to other members. They can and are added to at times, like jewels from tours.

Her private jewels she had were inherited from her mother in law or acquired. As continually discussed, she shared these with all three daughter in laws, as well as Elizabeth. There is no way of remotely estimating how many pieces Elizabeth inherited as there was no total to start with.

Fortunately unlike the Kents, the Gloucrsters have managed to maintain ownership of some incredible pieces she gave Alice.

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Like her daughter in laws Marina and Alice, Mary left a huge assortment to The queen mum. This includes the Delhi Dubar tiara and the fringe tiara Elizabeth II wore on her wedding. The queen often borrowed, but they belonged to her mother until 2002. Unlike the royal collection which belonged to the monarch, these were the queen mums personal inheritance and didn't pass to her daughter until she died.

As has been explained, the Crown Jewels refer to the official state jewels. These are the crowns, sceptre and other pieces used in only the most official occasions like a coronation. The royal collection, like the Crown Jewels, belong to whoever is on the throne. They automatically pass. These are jewels that can be used on any occasion. Any jewels that date before queen Victoria, belong to the royal collection. These can be worn as chosen but not sold or given away to other members. They can and are added to at times, like jewels from tours.

Her private jewels she had were inherited from her mother in law or acquired. As continually discussed, she shared these with all three daughter in laws, as well as Elizabeth. There is no way of remotely estimating how many pieces Elizabeth inherited as there was no total to start with.

Fortunately unlike the Kents, the Gloucrsters have managed to maintain ownership of some incredible pieces she gave Alice.

https://royalwatcherblog.com/2016/06...esters-tiaras/
The Queen also got amazing jewels from her queen mother as well.
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