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Old 06-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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Snowdon has no claim on the items, and, since he isn't the one burdened by death taxes, really doesn't have a dog in the fight. It's none of his business what his children do with their belongings. If Margaret had planned her estate better, all of this could have been avoided.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:06 AM
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Too bad the jewels are to be auctioned. I think these gems should be handed back to the Queen as part of the country's heritage.Any news on the auction?
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:43 AM
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about lord snowdon's interference, i totally agree on his part. it has been claimed in the british media that the death duties story is just a cover up, that he actually just wants to get quite rich with his mother's property,and lord snowdon was reported supported the auction of his late ex wife's jewellery but wasn't pleased that their wedding presents were up for auction, and he also didn't like other personal properties that are being up for auction like paintings of her and famous pictures( which he reportedly took as a photographer)
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:25 AM
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I don't doubt for a second Linley wants to get rich -- he seems obsessed by making money. But the items were left by MArgaret to her children to do as they please. I don't see why Snowdon is so sentimental about the wedding presents -- he wasn't remotely sentimental about the marriage. These items belong to David and Sarah, and it's up to the two of them (or David if he's the one running this) to decide what should be kept. The Linleys and Chattos don't have large homes to store unwanted items, so either the things are sold or placed into storage. I was surprised to see that one of Linley's own creations for his mother is up for auction, though. I guess Serena didn't see the need for it.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:51 PM
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Some of the auction items, such as the clear plastic umbrella, seem like desperate attempts to make money. I think some things should have been given to the Queen, especially Queen Mary's items and things like the small pin that was possibly the Queen Mother's first piece of jewelry. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that things I expect to have sentimental value for them (such the Annigoni painting, which took pride of place in her home) would be sold. After all Linley boldly sold the Mustique house while she was alive. I wonder what she would think of this auction.
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:32 PM
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Too bad the jewels are to be auctioned. I think these gems should be handed back to the Queen as part of the country's heritage.
I am sure that most if not all of the items were offered to the Queen and/or other members of the royal family for purchase first. It is likely that the lots for the auction were not finalised until after those involved had made their decisions on whether to buy a certain piece or not. This may explain why many other large and historic jewels are not included in the sale. (i.e. the Teck circle necklace/tiara and the turquoise parure.) It is possible that these items would have been included if not 'snapped up' by some other family member. Presumably the pieces that are viewed by the general public as being sentimental - like the 'M' pin - were not viewed in the same light by people who knew better how Princess Margaret herself felt about those items. Maybe she didn't like them or wear them very often, so they don't have a lot of emotional value for her relatives.
That being said, I really can't believe they're selling that painting!
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:36 PM
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I don't doubt for a second Linley wants to get rich -- he seems obsessed by making money.
Can you expand on this?
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:48 PM
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While I love the Poltimore tiara and would love to see it remain in the family (and therefore in the public eye on official occasions), there are several other tiaras in Princess Margaret's family that are equally lovely and have a far longer connection to the royal family. And with the surprisingly meagre incomes that extended members of the royal family receive, I'm not in the least bit surprised with the sale. There are plenty more jewels in that family. The piece that I am most surprised by in the sale is Queen Mary's diamond riviere necklace, as I presumed that its provinence would keep it out of the auction catalogues. I must marvel, though, at the many ways in which the Poltimore tiara can be worn: in the full form, with the flowers as a necklace, and with the large scroll pieces as brooches. Wonderful!
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About the vacation home on Mustique that was mentioned on the previous page, I remember seeing it in an issue of Architectural Digest from a year or so ago. It had at that time changed hands (after HH's death), and had been renovated/remodelled for the then owner. Lovely place, really. Several separate pavillions in a kind of H shape if my memory serves me correctly, and wonderful views. Not very ostentatious, either, given the hedonistic reputation that Mustique had. I'll see if I can go back and find the article so I can let everyone know where to look it up. (I realise that this is quite off the topic of jewels, but I felt obligated to respond).
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:18 PM
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...The piece that I am most surprised by in the sale is Queen Mary's diamond riviere necklace, as I presumed that its provinence would keep it out of the auction catalogues. ...
I am surprised too but they don't have much of a royal heritage other than Queen Mary had them from 1933 on, bequeathed to her by Lady Mount Stephen.

I was able to see the exhibit in New York and while I was struck by how huge those diamonds were and the magnificence of the Poltimore, I thought the quality of the multi-strand pearl necklace lot 118 was not so impressive. For example, the center pearl on the lowest strand had clearly visible bumps on it (for lack of a more technical jewelry term.) The "M" brooch was more modest than I expected but the small sapphire brooch (former pearl necklace clasp, lot 177) was absolutely stunning, much better than in the pictures. The Poltimore looked much older and delicate than I expected, and the gold setting more noticeable. It certainly is a showstopper.
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:07 PM
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i would have agree with posts because Princess Margaret's ex-hubby have rights for fights to christies because hard tell you about that i know her ex-hubby more respectives but im sure he would accept to sold of Margaret's jewels or not but we have wait and see what he says ok or not.

Margaret's son wanted sold his mother's jewels and her son would become rich and also Sarah because more remind of their mother very much but im sure lord snowdon wanted know about can sell or not.

if Princess Margaret would alives today
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Can you expand on this?
In almost every interview he has done, Linley has commented on his constant desire to make money and complained that he is nowhere near as wealthy as people think he is. He sold his mother's retreat while she was alive (and possibly missed out on around 8 million pounds profit by doing so), he sold family Christmas cards the year his mother and grandmother died, he's selling this stuff now. He's not at all sentimental.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:25 AM
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those are nice jewelries!!! too bad they sold them away. kelly9480 made linley sound greedy! if the princess margaret was still alive she would probably chose to die than see her valuables given away to other people just for her son to have lots of spending money.
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Tiara pic!

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I was able to see the exhibit in New York and while I was struck by how huge those diamonds were and the magnificence of the Poltimore... the Poltimore looked much older and delicate than I expected, and the gold setting more noticeable. It certainly is a showstopper.
Here is a detail from the Poltimore tiara.

courtesy Geoffrey Munn, "Tiaras: A History of Splendour", Antique Collectors' Club 2001
pic originally © By Gracious Permission of HRH The Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon.

The Poltimore Tiara (detail)

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In almost every interview he has done, Linley has commented on his constant desire to make money and complained that he is nowhere near as wealthy as people think he is. He sold his mother's retreat while she was alive (and possibly missed out on around 8 million pounds profit by doing so), he sold family Christmas cards the year his mother and grandmother died, he's selling this stuff now. He's not at all sentimental.
Could he perhaps be part Ferengi? I mean look at those ears!
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According to Christie's, none of the pieces will be withdrawn, regardless of Snowdon's feelings.
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Emerald Eyes, thanks for the ferengi comment, I needed a good laugh!
I am sorry for the family that they must sell these items-I am sure if they didn't have to, they wouldn't.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:58 PM
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Looking at the catalogue, there is just so MUCH STUFF. Where would David and Sara keep it all even if they wanted to. ALso many of the items are not things you would want if they weren't associated with royalty. I think Lord Snowdon may be upset just thinking about what personal items of HIS will be sold after he is gone. Maybe a trip to his solicitor is in order.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:38 AM
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From ITV.com:

Margaret's jewels make almost £10m

Jewellery once owned by the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret has raised almost £10 million at an ongoing two-day auction.
So far, £9,597,680 has been raised, which will go towards paying Inheritance Tax on the late Princess's estate and will also go to charities, including the Princess Margaret Fund at the Stroke Association.
Items that have already gone under the hammer include her wedding tiara which sold for £926,400. Margaret's silver, furniture and works of art will be auctioned off later.
Helen Molesworth, a specialist at Christie's jewellery department who researched the history of the Princess's jewellery, described the auction as a "sale of a lifetime".
She said: "This is a one-off for my career, this is a sale of a lifetime. For me this is the epitome of the personal side of the Royal Family.
"We have the combination of Royal provenance and glamour which have a wonderful appeal to the British public."
Some of the pieces sold for 100 times their estimated value as jewellery collectors and fans of British royalty battled in the sale room to own one of her cherished jewellery items.
At the height of the sale around 1,000 buyers were packed into five sales rooms. Before the event started, 1,000 people left bids - and there were 500 collectors making bids by phone.
Star lots included a delicate Fabergé clock, a gift from Margaret's grandmother Queen Mary, which fetched £1,240,000, the highest price of the night, and a ring designed by the Princess featuring three rubies surrounded by diamonds, which made £299,200 despite an estimated price of up to £20,000.
The collection included pieces that were inherited, given or personally acquired by the Princess, who died in 2002, and reflected her celebrated style and elegance.
But the highlight of the night was Margaret's head jewellery the Poltimore tiara, which was originally created by Garrards in 1870 for Lady Poltimore, the wife of the second Baron Poltimore.
The Princess wore it on several occasions, including at her wedding to Lord Snowdon and, in its alternative form, as a diamond fringed necklace and scroll brooches prior to their marriage.
Bidding for this unique item was brisk starting at £200,000 and soon reaching £600,000 before one persistent buyer finally saw the hammer fall on her price.
Christie's said a private Asian buyer bought the Poltimore tiara while the Faberge clock went to an anonymous buyer.
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Margaret's jewels make almost £10m

Items that have already gone under the hammer include her wedding tiara which sold for £926,400.
Tiara ONLY for Ł926,400? I thought that will be more than Ł1000000.

Btw. all item was sold?
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