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Old 09-28-2013, 02:46 AM
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Did she wear the wedding gift tiara from the Societe Generale while Josephine Charlotte was alive? Or did she wear it first after her death in 2005?
Thy only daughter-in-law of Joséphine-Charlotte who wore the scroll tiara dfuring her life time was the Princess Sibilla.
I think that Maria Teresa only started to wear jewels that had owned by Joséphine-Charlotte after her death in 2005.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:51 AM
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You are right Stephan , she was her favorite daughter in law. I never understood why Sybille wore no tiara on her wedding day.
MT wore the scroll tiara only after the Cancelation of the Sotheby's Auction.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:53 AM
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Josephine , They have fabulous Broches and the Grand Duchess wore Natan's fake Brooches on Prince Guillaume wedding day!
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:10 AM
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The Scroil tiara and the Congo tiara were in the cancelled Auction in Paris !
They could have been disappeared for ever.. Thanks to the troubles of people of Luxembourg : "Selling presents even the poorest of the Country should not do that."
Grand Duke Henri had to cancel the Auction and had to pay Sotheby (Prince Philip of Wurtenberg) a huge unknown amount.
Since then MT wears the scroll tiara and the emerald bracelet as necklace.
She never wore the Congo tiara/necklace only the bracelet on her wedding day as her sisters in law.
It is all a bit mysterious to me. They wanted to sell the scroll tiara and the Congo tiara-necklace. And when the auction had to be cancelled, one tiara, the scroll, became one of MT’s most frequently worn tiaras, while the other was never seen again. If MT liked the scroll so much, why did they plan to sell it in the first place? And why would she shun her own wedding tiara?
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You are right Stephan , she was her favorite daughter in law. I never understood why Sybille wore no tiara on her wedding day.
MT wore the scroll tiara only after the Cancelation of the Sotheby's Auction.
Another mystery: why did Sibilla not wear a wedding tiara? Her own family owned the aquamarine tiara of Queen Ena, which her mother wore without the coloured stones at her wedding. And the groom’s mother had even more tiara at her disposal. I guess we will never learn if Sibilla just preferred a tiara-less bridal look, or their families thought that she was not Princess enough to deserve a tiara.
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It is all a bit mysterious to me. They wanted to sell the scroll tiara and the Congo tiara-necklace. And when the auction had to be cancelled, one tiara, the scroll, became one of MT’s most frequently worn tiaras, while the other was never seen again. If MT liked the scroll so much, why did they plan to sell it in the first place? And why would she shun her own wedding tiara?
Are we sure that she has not worn the congo as necklace? could it not be the one at the State Visit to the Netherlands?
Perhaps the planned sale had to do with the inheritance. Perhaps the siblings did not agree how to split the jewels up among them. Hope they have now put them in the Family Trust/Foundation.
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What I don't understand is that Archduchess Marie Astrid's daughter and daughter-in-law wore a loan from Luxembourg is is not said that it belonged to Her.
The same for the wedding of Guillaume, Princesses Marie-Astrid and Margaretha wore jewels of the vault. Is there a Foundation as for the Dutch Royal Ladies ?
For the State Visit for the Netherlands MT wore as necklace the 2 huge row of diamonds worn by Grand Duchess Charlotte before.
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What I don't understand is that Archduchess Marie Astrid's daughter and daughter-in-law wore a loan from Luxembourg is is not said that it belonged to Her.
The same for the wedding of Guillaume, Princesses Marie-Astrid and Margaretha wore jewels of the vault. Is there a Foundation as for the Dutch Royal Ladies ?
For the State Visit for the Netherlands MT wore as necklace the 2 huge row of diamonds worn by Grand Duchess Charlotte before.
Perhaps they agreed after the cancelled auction that all jewels would be either owned by the Grand Duke or put in the Foundation and the Princesses and their descendants can use Jewels of it when they have an occasion where they need them.
There is a Family Foundation which i think dates back very long, not sure but i think even to the days when the still reigned the Duchy of Nassau. To it for example also the Empire tiara belong and the Grand Duches Adelaide diamond and Sapphire tiara.
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Are we sure that she has not worn the congo as necklace? could it not be the one at the State Visit to the Netherlands?
Perhaps the planned sale had to do with the inheritance. Perhaps the siblings did not agree how to split the jewels up among them. Hope they have now put them in the Family Trust/Foundation.
I’m not sure which event you mean. Do you mean in 2006 when MT wore the empire tiara? That evening the Grand Duchess wore two large diamond rivieres. But I don’t know what she wore at the return banquett. (I must admit that I am so focused on tiaras that I don’t collect pictures of non-tiara events)

Isn’t there some kind of “Hausschmuck” trust which protects some of the older jewels like GD Adelaide’s sapphire tiara and the empire tiara? But I have never heard that the family added newer pieces to it. It seems to me that the family is not concerned about a dispersal of the jewellery.
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Prince of Chota in spanish translated to english La negrita = the little black one.
Well her mother in law was an idiot... after all she is not here anymore, life goes on, and the marriage is stronger than never.
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Why are your comments pertinent to a thread about MT's jewelry?
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Prince of Chota in spanish translated to english La negrita = the little black one. Well her mother in law was an idiot... after all she is not here anymore, life goes on, and the marriage is stronger than never.
I am confused by this post and why it is in this thread.
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I believe that fogdancer is replying to a post of Prince of Chota from 2006, at the beginning of this thread. There is a more elaborate discussion about MT-JC in this thread:

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