German and Austrian Royal and Noble Jewels 1: Ending 2021

[Marengo]

I think you are correct Tilia. On this photo of the wedding of ADss Anna Eugenie you can see the pattern a bit more clearly.

The tiara may indeed be needing some cleaning, as often is the case when they are not used on a regular basis.

As for why it was not used for the children of ADss Anna Eugenie: we can only guess. But in the 80/early 90-ties it was less easy to travel within Europe with valuable goods, as there could be issues at the borders of countries that were not part of Schengen. IIRC something of the sort happened when AD Karl brought a tiara to Austria for his fiancée to wear. The tiara may also have been stored in Mexico, where AD Felix and ADss Anna Eugenie lived, which would make it more difficult and expensive to bring the tiara to a wedding in Europe.

 

[Tilia C.]

Your picture is much better! I'm now absolutely convinced that the tiara is the same. And your explanation about traveling with a valuable tiara being difficult sounds plausible. Also, wearing a wedding tiara was not as fashionable in the 80s and 90s as it is nowadays.

I also think that it might be an Arenberg heirloom. AD Otto and Regina didn't have many jewels left to leave to her children, and I have never seen a similar tiara on another Habsburg lady. On the other hand, I have never seen a picture of another Arenberg lady with it, so this is just a speculation.


Btw, I sometimes thought that AD Kathleen didn't wear a tiara because she was getting married in the US.

 

[Marengo]

Btw, I sometimes thought that AD Kathleen didn't wear a tiara because she was getting married in the US.

I always assumed that that was the reason indeed. To transport a tiara from Europe to the US the costs of a secure transport & insurance will be substantial. I didn't think that it was some sort of signal about the feelings of AD CC and Pss Marie-Astrid towards their daughter-in-law, as some suggested at the time.

It *could* be an Arenberg or Wrede heirloom. ADss Anna Eugenie only had one sister, the grandmother of Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg.
I can not find much information about the other ladies in the Guttenberg family but KT's wife Stephanie von Bismarck wore a different tiara for her wedding.

 

[Tilia C.]

Here is the only tiara pic that I have of Rosa Sophie von Guttenberg, Princesse d'Arenberg. The event was the wedding of Freiherr Enoch von Guttenberg & with Countess Christiane von und zu Eltz.
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And here is the bride. Unfortunately, the watermark is right across her head, but I think that she is wearing the von Eltz star tiara.
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[Stefan]

So far, I have seen wedding pics of only three of the seven children of AD Felix and AD Anna Eugenie and none of them wore a tiara. So, it’s a bit of a mystery why this tiara was unseen for so long.

What is strange is that both of Kinga's sisters die not wear the tiara for their Weddings. Don't know if here are public pics of their weddings but i have seen a few of both Weddings as someone i know was at both of them.

 

[Tilia C.]

I don't think that there are any public pictures of those weddings. And it surprises me, that Kinga's sisters didn't wear the tiara. Maybe, she was the only one who liked it enough to wear it? Imo, the tiara is quite nice, but taste differs, so...

 

[Marc23]

Well, I see you have solved the mystery

I agree with you. It looks like the same tiara, shape wise too.

THANK YOU!!!

 

[Marc23]

The Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg Diamond Spike Tiara | The Court Jeweller

I dislike this tiara. I don’t like the design and I find it kind of cheap looking.

I think that this link needs to be updated.

https://i.ibb.co/KbSJh8S/1998b.jpg

As we have seen, this tiara was previously worn by Princess Katharina zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein, née Countess von Podewils-Dürniz and probably belong to this line of the family.

I think this information should be included into the link.

Thnx.

 

[Marc23]

Portrait of Empress Augusta Victoria:

https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Augusta-Victoria-of-Schleswig-Holstein-S/3EC36D01DC1CC631

Can anyone identify the tiara in the painting?

 

[Stefan]

Portrait of Empress Augusta Victoria:

https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Augusta-Victoria-of-Schleswig-Holstein-S/3EC36D01DC1CC631

Can anyone identify the tiara in the painting?

They lady in the pic doesn't look like Empress Auguste Victoria.

 

[Marc23]

They lady in the pic doesn't look like Empress Auguste Victoria.

I think the same...Maybe the tiara could be the clue who is it.

 

[Kataryn]

They lady in the pic doesn't look like Empress Auguste Victoria.

When I look at this picture of Auguste Victoria, I see similarities - both have such an special "Danish"-look about them. So I can believe it is a portrait of the late empress.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/c4a36w/au...tein-1858-1921-last-german-empress-c4a36w.jpg


Here is a better view of the jewellery:
https://endl-antiquitaeten.de/assets/img/frau-b.jpg


Found this pic, could that be the tiara from the side?
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/bf/9e/c4/bf9ec4fe658d7319a9e65fb95d130e9c.jpg

 

[Marc23]

Interesting tiara of Princess Sophie von Wied, Princess of Albania:

https://scontent.fbeg4-1.fna.fbcdn....=1ae137e063bf30f7918235f97df5331a&oe=6039DFBB

Any thoughts about whereabouts?

 

[Marc23]

Strange tiara worn by Princess Alexandra von Windisch-Graetz, later Princess von Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst:

https://sun9-22.userapi.com/sun9-63...n=b6b5e9c7e1640f9ceb98278919cb055b&type=album

She was daughter of Prince Tassilo Festetic de Tolna and Lady Mary Victoria Douglas-Hamilton.

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Princess Gloria dripping in huge pearls and a mouthwatering Art Deco sapphire bracelet at an event in Paris, 1989. The bracelet was later sold.

Photo by Benjamin Auger/Paris Match via Getty Images

 

[An Ard Ri]

The Art Deco sapphire bracelet is stunning what a shame it was sold off.

 

[Marc23]

When I look at this picture of Auguste Victoria, I see similarities - both have such an special "Danish"-look about them. So I can believe it is a portrait of the late empress.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/c4a36w/au...tein-1858-1921-last-german-empress-c4a36w.jpg


Here is a better view of the jewellery:
https://endl-antiquitaeten.de/assets/img/frau-b.jpg


Found this pic, could that be the tiara from the side?
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/bf/9e/c4/bf9ec4fe658d7319a9e65fb95d130e9c.jpg

I don't think it's the same tiara. Maybe the woman in the portrait could be someone related to Empress Augusta Victoria and therefore misidentified.

I thought that her jewels (tiara) could be the clue.

Tiara in the portrait resembles to this tiara, but obviously not the same:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/bb/74/5fbb7455af2c00ff7ee18bfd86910d55.jpg

It was worn by Princess Ingeborg of Denmark, later Princess of Sweden.

 

[JR76]

Tiara in the portrait resembles to this tiara, but obviously not the same:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/bb/74/5fbb7455af2c00ff7ee18bfd86910d55.jpg

It was worn by Princess Ingeborg of Denmark, later Princess of Sweden.

The already adaptable tiara and necklace is later thought to have been redesigned into this necklace worn by Ingeborg's granddaughter Princess Ragnhild of Norway.
https://pin.it/32ztW5w

 

[Stefan]

The already adaptable tiara and necklace is later thought to have been redesigned into this necklace worn by Ingeborg's granddaughter Princess Ragnhild of Norway.
https://pin.it/32ztW5w

So Ragnhild not only inherited Ingeborg's boucheron circle tiara but also this necklace.

 

[An Ard Ri]

The already adaptable tiara and necklace is later thought to have been redesigned into this necklace worn by Ingeborg's granddaughter Princess Ragnhild of Norway.
https://pin.it/32ztW5w

I also really like the redesigned version worn by Princess Ragnhild,I wonder what happened to it after her death?

 

[maria-olivia]

Princess Ingeborg never wore this diamond necklace later , always pearls.
This Danish necklace went to the Royal House of Norway.

 

[prince.of.preslav]

The Art Deco sapphire bracelet is stunning what a shame it was sold off.

It sure is!
You can see it in its full glory here - Thurn und Taxis jewels
I also wonder what happened to it after 1992.

 

[Marc23]

The already adaptable tiara and necklace is later thought to have been redesigned into this necklace worn by Ingeborg's granddaughter Princess Ragnhild of Norway.
https://pin.it/32ztW5w

Thnx for the info. I never knew it's fate.

It seems that the lady (obviously misidentified as Empress Augusta Victoria) in the portrait is wearing similar tiara which can be also worn as a necklace, too.

 

[Marc23]

Countess Maria Margaretha von Wenckheim, born Countess Palffy (1863-1954):

https://static.darabanth.com/images/1/3/1349672.jpg

She is wearing big diamond floral tiara that seems to be detachable.

 

[Marc23]

Princess Maria Theresa von Auersperg, born Princess von Schönburg-Hartenstein (1861-1945):

https://sun9-62.userapi.com/impf/9p...n=13458473983eaab60ba8dec08ddb2b9c&type=album

She is wearing diamond and emerald tiara.

 

[Marc23]

Princess Lioba zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg, later Princess zu Oettingen-Wallerstein:

https://www.main-echo.de/storage/image/3/6/6/9/4959663_artikeldetail-bild_1tfNN2_XQfJVH.jpg

She is wearing unknown tiara...probably a picture from the pre-wedding ball.

 

[Tilia C.]

Is it sure that this is a tiara? To me it looks like it might be another hair ornament, maybe orange blossoms. It's difficult to say, imo.

 

[Marc23]

I am not sure...but I suppose it could be a small tiara (hair ornament) because the picture was from the wedding festivities, but it was not from the wedding itself, which means that it could only be from the pre-wedding ball.

https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=mrib6NzkYqQUVcwCulVERg==

This is her picture from the wedding itself, where we can see that she was dressed differently, had a different tiara (if the first one is tiara) and had huge diamond necklaces and earrings.

So, we can only speculate if she wore hair ornament or orange blossom during pre-wedding ball or a tiara...don't know is there any custom when the orange blossoms are to be worn.

 

[prince.of.preslav]

^^
Looks like Princess Lioba wore the Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg jewels for the wedding itself.
Here's a closer picture from the wedding - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/1b/d9/201bd91af3ff77454bfee8b80dc2f05f.png

The tiara, earrings and two collet necklaces are currently worn by Fürstin Anastasia, her sister-in-law - https://static1.purepeople.com/arti...sia-de-prusse-et-alois-konstantin-950x0-2.jpg

Don't know about the small tiara from the pre-wedding. Could be a converted bracelet or a lesser-known jewel from the LWR collection.

 

[Stefan]

^^
Looks like Princess Lioba wore the Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg jewels for the wedding itself.
Here's a closer picture from the wedding - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/1b/d9/201bd91af3ff77454bfee8b80dc2f05f.png

Could also be the Oettingen-Wallerstein tiara at the Wedding. It is difficult to tell from this pic: https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...ein-sayn-and-picture-id1224442611?s=2048x2048