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Old 01-31-2007, 06:09 AM
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Do you think it was wise for Camilla to show that much clevage especially at her age?
What has age got to do with it?
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:42 AM
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I think remodelling it would be a bit of an insult to the person who gave it to Camilla. If it came from a Head of State in the Middle East, I think it would send a message that she didn't really care about the necklace, just the diamonds and rubies. I don't think HRH is like that so I don't think it'll be turned into a tiara any time soon.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:02 AM
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What has age got to do with it?
Well at a certain age the skin is not as taut and the flesh is not as firm, giving an overripe look. A slightly higher neckline might be more flattering.
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I also don't think it should be turned into a tiara. It would definintely insult the gift givers. I think she looked good and I loved the necklace to me camilla can carry off big neklaces .
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I think remodelling it would be a bit of an insult to the person who gave it to Camilla. If it came from a Head of State in the Middle East, I think it would send a message that she didn't really care about the necklace, just the diamonds and rubies. I don't think HRH is like that so I don't think it'll be turned into a tiara any time soon.
Many of those large necklaces can be converted to tiaras without any damage. And the BRF has been known to reset jewels in the past. Also, any good jeweler would be able to adapt the setting so that certain sections are removable to be worn as clips or pendants, etc.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:15 AM
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Well at a certain age the skin is not as taut and the flesh is not as firm, giving an overripe look. A slightly higher neckline might be more flattering.
Not on everybody and it is not necessarily an age related phenomenon. There are many men and women of tender years who would be well advised to cover up.
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It might be nice to turn the collar into a tiara and leave the rest as a necklace I suppose.
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It might be nice to turn the collar into a tiara and leave the rest as a necklace I suppose.
I agree that it could be a very nice tiara. And maybe it will happen.
But it was a present and so it was the right way to wear the necklace before turning it into something else.
And again: She´s a woman who can wear it! She looks stunning with the dress, the neckline, the necklace!
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Not on everybody and it is not necessarily an age related phenomenon. There are many men and women of tender years who would be well advised to cover up.
Absolutely! Many younger women who have had children or gained and lost a lot of weight have the same issue. My feeling is if its firm(ish) go for it! But anything crepe-y is better off left to the imagination at any age!

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Does Camilla have her own tiara? And if so where did she get it and does anyone have a phot?
I read that HRH The Prince Charles purchased a tiara for HRH The Duchess of Cornwall. It was a replica of her great, great grandmother's, Alice Keppel, given her by HM King Edward VII. The diamonds in the tiara, according to the article, were real, but the rubies were facsimiles.
Rather interesting to say the least.

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Old 02-01-2007, 04:00 AM
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Camilla also has (in her possession or on loan from her brother?) the diamond tiara she wore to her first wedding and the one her daughter wore to hers.

The Duchess wore this tiara to the Diplomatic Reception in 2006 I believe?

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Old 02-01-2007, 04:22 AM
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Camilla also has (in her her possession or on loan from her brother?) the diamond tiara she wore to her first wedding and the one her daughter wore to hers.

The Duchess wore this tiara to the Diplomatic Reception in 2006 I believe?
It was her wedding diademe (first wedding) and indeed the Duchess wore this sparkling diademe again during a reception for the Corps Diplomatique in 2006. I have seen that in a documentary on BBC.

I thought the diademe was a wedding gift and a heirloom via Camilla's mother, the honourable Rosalind Maud Shand née Cubitt.

Camilla's mother is born in the marriage of Roland Calvert Cubitt, Baron Ashcombe and of Sonia Rosemary Cubitt, Baroness Ashcombe née Keppel.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:19 AM
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A pic of Camilla's family tiara as worn by her daughter is here.
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It was her wedding diademe (first wedding) and indeed the Duchess wore this sparkling diademe again during a reception for the Corps Diplomatique in 2006. I have seen that in a documentary on BBC.

I thought the diademe was a wedding gift and a heirloom via Camilla's mother, the honourable Rosalind Maud Shand née Cubitt.

Camilla's mother is born in the marriage of Roland Calvert Cubitt, Baron Ashcombe and of Sonia Rosemary Cubitt, Baroness Ashcombe née Keppel.
It was not in 2006, Henri.M, it was in 2005 actually. Last year, the Duchess of Cornwall did not attend the Reception.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:55 PM
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The Duchess has Queen Mary's Delhi Durbar and The Queen Mother's Cartier Diamond Tiaras for her use as well.
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:03 PM
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It was not in 2006, Henri.M, it was in 2005 actually. Last year, the Duchess of Cornwall did not attend the Reception.
Oh yes, New Year has passed again, you are absolutely right... it was in 2005.

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Old 02-01-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Ashcombe or Keppel (Albemarle) heirloom

The glittering diademe is believed to be a heirloom from Camilla's family. It can have been inherited via both the grandpaternal Cubitt line (Barons Ashcombe) or the grandmaternal Keppel line (Earls of Albemarle).

Maybe nice to know that Van Keppel was (and is) a very old Dutch noble family and there is a Castle of Keppel near the village of Keppel in the east of the Netherlands. And the Lords of Keppel also owned Voorst Estate, close to the old castle.

In 1697 the Dutch nobleman Arnold-Joost van Keppel, Lord Van Voorst and Acquoy was created Earl of Albemarle, Viscount Bury, Baron Ashford.
Camilla's grandmother Sonia Rosemary Cubitt, Baroness Ashcombe née Keppel does descend from this Dutch/British noble family.

So the diademe can have its roots in one of the two noble families.

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As I stated in another thread [quite errantly, I might add], I didn't know what was more ostentatious; the necklace or her bosoms. I thought both were a little much.


Now before anyone comes after me saying I'm being ageist or some such malarkey, allow me to say that I don't want to see ANYONE'S boobs, I don't care who you are or how old you are. Especially if you're royal.....cover those things up. If I didn't like it on Princess Madeleine, who's my age...might I add, I won't want to see it on a woman who is about my mother's age. That necklace is going to stand out no matter what kind of dress you're wearing, so I don't necessarily believe a low-cut neckline is absolutely needed.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:07 AM
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