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Old 10-22-2012, 11:39 AM
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Thanks to Gert-Jan who posted it on the Royal Jewels MB, here's an even closer pic of the 'new' tiara and haircomb.
Definitely no diamonds included, and what looks like black bead stones in a row on top are IMO half globes of steel cut in facets as well, if you look at the end of the row and at their back in the comb.
Definitely an antique set, perhaps only recovered/restored now, but most likely bought back or acquired recently:

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:59 AM
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Victoria's earrings from the religous ceremony

http://i50.tinypic.com/idf39u.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/13zbf3d.jpg
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Very elegant. Absolutely love them.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:46 PM
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This tiara is very interesting but I think it would have looked better if it had been placed in front of a fabulous up do with the tiara highlighted against her dark hair. Worn this way it seemed a little cramped and up tight. Hmm

To be honest, I did not like the addition of the large diamond pendant on the necklace with this gown as it looked too heavy and choker-like which added to the overall cramped impression. Meh!

No, that dress (and that Princess) was made to carry the Napoleon Steel Cut tiara and I wish she had worn that. It fitted so perfectly. Beautiful
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:09 PM
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Are we sure it's cut steel? It doesn't look like it to me.
1) This looks more like a necklace-turned-tiara than a straight-up tiara to me. Was the steel-cut tiara part of a parure?

2) I'm not that familiar with the Steel-cut Tiara's details, but the top row of beads looks like hematite to me.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:57 PM
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^^^Or even marquisite. I think this is too dainty a tiara for someone of Victoria's stature; she pulls off the grander tiaras beautifully.
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when i saw the new tiara i thought gift for the birth of the nest heir princess estelle most likely from her parents. Its an interesting tiara and one i could see estelle use as a starter tiara but i do prefer Victoria in something larger
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I have to admit I do not get the idea of wearing a tiara with a comb. Somewhat weird I think. The tiara itself is nice though a bit too small.
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Such fun trying to identify this fascinating tiara. Could the 'black bead stones' be garnets and might this be a Victorian era mourning tiara, with a view to the loss of Countess Alix de Lannoy?
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:58 PM
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Roger, who I think is the editor of the royal magazine "Kungliga Magasinet", posted this today to the Royal Jewels of the World Message board
Royal Jewels of the World Message Board: The "new" Bernadottetiara
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Other pieces that haven't been seen are lurking in those vaults too?

And we thought it was only the British Royals who guarded their treasures so tightly. Wonder what else we haven't seen yet and when can we see it?
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i hope roger will write something in the kungliga magazinet edition about the tiara and comb.

maybe the pre-wedding earings victoria wore isnot bought back but taken out of the voults for the first time in many many yeras
but what do they gave in the voults
victorias 18th birthday tiara may be such a item, estelles first tiara may come from the hidden tresures
only time will tell and a book about the jewllery written with the help pf the royal family

does anyone have a better and larger photo of queen josefina
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...xKFOdOdMigGFa8

not a match to victorias tiara but it has been on my mind from the first time i saw victorias smal cut steel tiara
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does anyone have a better and larger photo of queen josefina
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...xKFOdOdMigGFa8

not a match to victorias tiara but it has been on my mind from the first time i saw victorias smal cut steel tiara
Here is a larger version of Queen Josefine's portrait.
I agree, it does have a resemblance to Victoria's tiara. Not a perfect match but close.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:41 PM
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Actually the comb doesn't surpise me. Many older parures (Napoleanic era?) have them because tiaras don't go all the way around the head. The comb in the back helps close the gap so to speak, or it is put higher in the updo to give the tiara more height visually. The "tiara" still looks like an upside down necklace to me though.
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So that's the Cut-Steel Tiara's little cousin, then.
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If I had to choose between the two, I'd take the smaller one (even though it looks more like a necklace to me).
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Here is a larger version of Queen Josefine's portrait.
I agree, it does have a resemblance to Victoria's tiara. Not a perfect match but close.
I'm not too fond of this one, but I can appreciate the historical significance and the Victorian touch to it. Great find, thanks for sharing!
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:12 PM
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Here is a larger version of Queen Josefine's portrait.
I agree, it does have a resemblance to Victoria's tiara. Not a perfect match but close.
It's certainly not the same.
There's some resemblance in design with the haircomb of the 'new' cut steel set, but this isn't surprising as the small tiara worn by young Josefina in the painting and the 'new' cut steel tiara should date back to approximately the same time period - of course not Victorian, but rather Napoleonic indeed.
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Not a fan of this tiara. I find it boring and I think the design is uninteresting.
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I like the new tiara and especially the comb, but I do not think the tiara suits Victoria. I think she looks better with tiaras that are higher in the middle. Her face has a pronounced chin and a low sloping forehead and higher tiaras seems to balance it better. The other cut steel tiara looks just lovely on her.
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