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Old 07-26-2010, 01:21 PM
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victorias tupaz necklace has anyone found out the story about it?
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Old 08-12-2010, 07:05 PM
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Cut-steel choker is actually bracelets

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I don't think that there are any pictures of former Swedish royal ladies wearing the cut steel tiara.
In fact, as you probably know, the tiara was 'misplaced', meaning lost and forgotten, for a long time until it was re-discovered by Queen Silvia in the late 1970s - in some dusty old cupboard in Stockholm Palace and by sheer coincidence.
The tiara is Napoleonic and probably came to Sweden through Queen Josefina, but after that, its history is something of a riddle.
There is also a choker necklace and earrings in cut-steel matching the tiara, so it's actually a whole parure, but Queen Silvia has worn the complete set only two times in thirty years.
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The necklace is rather cumbersome though and, in contrast to the tiara, not that beautiful; in all these years, Queen Silvia has worn the complete parure only twice. Still, I hope we will see the whole set worn again one day.
Hi, Boris and anyone else who may follow this thread. I was looking back through my archives specifically for the times where Silvia wore the entire cut-steel parure. The 2007 representation dinner shows her wearing the tiara, earrings, and a choker. This seems to be the same choice as the 1987 visit to Iceland (pics show more sparkle on the earrings and necklace btw). Both times she was wearing long sleeves so we can't see any bracelets. After I looked back further to the 1979 visit to Austria, it appears to me that the choker necklace she subsequently wore is actually made by joining the two bracelets (similar to the method she used with the amethyst parure redesign). In the 1979 pictures, she is wearing a sleeveless gown which although further away show a substantial cuff-style bracelets. In addition the necklace she wears is not a choker but more like a torque-style necklace - wide and flat - and only resting on the top of her shoulders. It does not extend up her neck as in the more recent photos. Every reference to the parure includes tiara, earrings, necklace and bracelets, but the 1979 pictures are the only ones where all are visible. I am convinced, especially as the "choker" in 2007 does not fit properly, that the 1987 and 2007 necklace is the joining of the two bracelets.

This would mean that the entire parure has only been worn once...the first time in 1979 (unless Silvia redesigned the old necklace into two bracelets), and the parure minus the necklace but with the bracelets formed into a choker has been worn twice - in 1987 and 2007.

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Old 08-13-2010, 07:57 AM
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This was interesting Rascal!
And hereis a video from Nobel 2004 where you can see Victoria in the steel cut tiara. In pictuers it looks kind of boring (non sparkling) but it has a lovely glimmering "live". At 0.40 and 2.43
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:42 AM
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Thanks for the post, Soli Deo Gloria! I am always fascinated to see live footage of any royals, but particularly the Swedish Royal Family as I follow them the most. In still photos and during the Nobel ceremony they usually seem so reserved and sometimes serious. But during the banquet footage and with a great portion of the recent wedding clips, they all seem so much more open and lively. In this clip Carl-Philip and Victoria both seem so animated and outgoing in their conversations with their respective dinner partners.

And you,re right...still photos of the steel tiara do not do it justice. It does sparkle more than I expected and actually looks in the clip like it is set with small diamonds. Excellent craftmanship on the steel facets to give it this bling.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:07 PM
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I am really fond of the cut-steel tiara. It is a marvel of metalwork. When you can get a hunk of metal to look like it has diamonds, that is the epitomy of craft (and deception -- LOL)!
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:42 AM
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if i have cropped the Original images can i then post it here?
thinking of the photo from 1979 when she wears the cut steel tiara

on a other note
i wonder if victoria has jewlley from her cousin oscar magnusson
he has designed for Court Jeweller W.A. Bolin

this is a video from svt you can see all years victoria took part of the nobels
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Hi, Josefine. I looked at the Bolin site and reviewed the items Oscar designed for them. I really liked some of them and some seem like the type of thing Victoria might wear. She hasn't yet worn any publicly, so we don't know for sure.

BTW, both Oscar's girlfriend, Emma Ledent, and the prime minister's wife, Filippa Reinfeldt, wore earrings that Oscar designed on the day of the wedding.

Thanks for the video link, Josefine. I had not seen this clip before. It really is amazing how much better the jewelry looks in "real-life" or in "live" video. Even the 4-button tiara looks quite good, although Victoria's 18th birthday tiara, while it looked good on her is still so small and has such small stones it doesn't really sparkle.

BTW, as you and Boris have provided so much information that IMO you are the experts on the Swedish jewels, what are your thoughts concerning my post on the cut-steel parure? Is the choker actually the two bracelets and is there another piece - the necklace - which has only been seen the one time in 1979?

Thanks again for the video link and for all your posts .

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Old 08-14-2010, 01:24 PM
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I leave this one for boris
i am not a expert but more a colector of information and pics.
We also got Mia who seems to know great deal
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:00 PM
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Rascal, you have a great eye for detail and you're almost correct regarding the cut steel parure:
When Queen Silvia wore it for the first time after the 'misplaced' tiara was re-discovered (state visit to Austria, 1979), the piece which is now worn as a choker was worn by her as two identical, wide bracelets.
On this occasion, she wore a necklace exactly as described by you in post #382, which I have never seen again.

The 'almost correct' concerns the earrings she wore for that dinner: Not the cut-steel earrings belonging to the parure, but small diamond hoop earrings which she has owned since before her marriage.
AS the cut steel pieces were subsequently worn in the combination of tiara, bracelets joined to form a choker, and matching earrings, the full parure was actually never worn - IF the 1979 necklace does belong to it, that is.

Queen Silvia wore the cut steel tiara on several more occasions, but always combined with diamond necklaces, or with the cut-steel earrings but no necklace.
CP Victoria never wore a matching piece from the set, only the tiara.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the reply, Boris. I noticed the similarity to the round diamond earrings from the 1979 pictures but thought it might just be the way the light picked up on them, so basically I assumed they were the same ones as the other two times she wore the set because those earrings are about the same size as the diamond ones, although they are not "hollow" in the middle.

Thank you so much for responding to my question. I'm uncomfortable with making a statement of fact about such things and prefer the discussion of more experienced followers such as yourself and Josefine (as well as Mia, hope to hear from you as well).

Just as with this situation, I have several other things that are nagging at me and will try my best to research as much as I can before posting my questions (although I seem to run into dead-ends as my questions are about really insignificant things and tend to not have a lot of background material...LOL).

Thanks all again for helping me with my questions.

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Old 08-14-2010, 07:01 PM
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I leave this one for boris
i am not a expert but more a colector of information and pics.
We also got Mia who seems to know great deal
LOL...Josefine! "Expert" is a matter of perspective...in my eyes you are definitely one of them in terms of Sweden royalty and jewelry. So PLEASE don't let it stop you from confirming or dispeling any of the information I happen to throw out here. Whether I may be correct or incorrect is irrelevant, I'm only looking for accuracy. And your contributions have been a huge help to me many times thus far.
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:25 AM
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Just as with this situation, I have several other things that are nagging at me and will try my best to research as much as I can before posting my questions (although I seem to run into dead-ends as my questions are about really insignificant things and tend to not have a lot of background material...LOL).

Thanks all again for helping me with my questions.

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You're very welcome, Rascal!
Please don't hesitate to present the 'nagging' Bernadotte jewelry issues in the respective topics here, 'minor' or not - I have the feeling that there might be questions among them which have been nagging me as well!
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:26 PM
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... I have several other things that are nagging at me...my questions are about really insignificant things...
Rascal, we're a discussion forum and without questions to be answered, puzzles to be solved and clues tossed around we'd be left with largely empty posts and empty threads.

No detail is insignificant and for those with an interest in a subject such as royal jewels, a thirst for detail is usually part of the package. Fine detail is often the most interesting part of any puzzle and while some questions may never be answered, just the asking encourages the sharing of knowledge, thereby allowing us all to learn.

We are fortunate in having knowledgeable members who are willing to share what they know or consult their reference books and files to find the answer. It's the research and the sharing with others who have a common interest which makes discussion forums such as this interesting, enjoyable and valuable.

So don't feel constrained and hold back; choose your topic, find the thread, ask anything from the seemingly obvious to the wonderfully arcane, and let the discussion begin!
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:09 PM
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Jumping over to Queen's Silvia's jewelry thread

Hi, Boris, Josefine, Mia, Warren and anyone else who pops in on the discussion of Swedish royal jewelry.

Since many of my questions deal with jewelry that has been worn by the queens of Sweden, I am moving to that thread...especially since Soli Deo Gloria posted a link to a Swedish Wikipedia page specifically on the Swedish Royal Jewelry.

I hope you will join me there. First question will be posted there shortly!

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Old 08-17-2010, 01:22 PM
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victoria has worn 8 different "tiaras"
  • her 18th birthday tiara
  • 4 button tiara
  • 6 button tiara
  • ametyst cirkel tiara
  • baden fringe tiara
  • cut steel tiara
  • 2 row Diamond Rivières as a tiara
  • cameo tiara
photos Imageshack - crownprincessvictoriast.jpg
I added also her hair ornament at queen of Denmark’s birthday as it were a tiara event
That would come to a count of 9 but it may be a cheat to count the brooch

i do not count the diamondarrow becouse it was not worn at a tiara event
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Necklace - looks like a V and D
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Old 08-22-2010, 11:14 AM
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Great eye PrincessofEurope!!!
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:38 PM
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Now she can use the V and D -necklace freely even in official duties, she has used it for years at her free time, and a couple of times also in official duties. She has had it from 2005.
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Princess Victoria commemorates Folke Bernadotte's lifesaving 'White Buses' mission at Ramlösa Brunnspark
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