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Old 08-30-2016, 07:48 PM
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princess or not zara is a granddaughter a monarch she will definitely wear a coronet so why not a tiara with it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corone...ronet_rankings

Zara would not be the sovereign's granddaughter because in this situation Charles is the sovereign. She would be his niece.

Can't see the youngster like Mia, George and Charlotte there unless they are 8 or older. It's a pretty long service. Charles as a young kid didn't attend the whole thing when his mom was crown.


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Old 08-30-2016, 08:16 PM
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princess alexandra wore her's and the coronation was for her cousin , it's like the title once you are titled u will always gona be titled whether they are children or grandchildren of a current monarch or a former monarch
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:31 PM
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princess alexandra wore her's and the coronation was for her cousin , it's like the title once you are titled u will always gona be titled whether they are children or grandchildren of a current monarch or a former monarch
Zara isn't titled.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:38 PM
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Zara isn't titled.
yes she is not titled but now she have precedence after Lady Louise Windsor and before Viscountess Linley and the kents and the Gloucesters who are all titled like i said before a granddaughter of a monarch is like a title
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:02 PM
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Zara isn't titled.
Title as in granddaughter of the monarch. When Charles is king, she will still be granddaughter of a monarch, just former. Royal ladies (which she is title or not) wear coronets. As will any lady entitled (like opening of parliament). Like George VI and Elizabeth's all royal family will be included in the procession with the pomp and ceremony which includes coronets. She wont be among more minor ladies, she will be surrounded by women in coronets and tiaras.
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Just because she's the granddaughter of the Queen doesn't mean she's automatically entitled to a coronet. She's not an HRH/princess.

Unlike Beatrice and Eugenie, Zara's personal arms don't bear a coronet.

She can't very well show up at the coronation decked out like she's royal.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:28 PM
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this is the coronet of grandchildren of monarchs who are not prince/ss
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:34 PM
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^^^ Thanks. I didn't know that. Her arms don't have a coronet.

She would still need permission though. Coronets are regulated through the College of Arms.

Are there examples of non royal grandchildren using coronets?
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:45 PM
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no there isn't any examples cause the uk is the only country that have coronets in the coronation and the grandchildren of monarchs were always titled either they were descendants of a female or a male child of a monarch
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:50 PM
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I am not sold on a large coronation in the style of the Queen's for Charles'. I have seen a 'price' of around a billion for a coronation on that scale due to security concerns along with all the other associated expenses and there is no way the British people would stand for that - particularly with a 6 billion price tag for the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament and another billion or so already stated for BP.

There is no way they will shut down Westminster Abbey for six months to put in seating - and that means a lot fewer people in the Abbey.

With all the hereditary peers and peeresses expected to attend (after all that was a major reason for these ceremonies in the first place - so that the nobles could personally swear allegiance to the monarch) along with all the GGs and High Commissioners of the Commonwealth and then the representatives of other nations (not the Heads of State unless a personal relative) there won't be room for many other people.

I can see it not being a full tiara affair at all - as a move towards the more European style of changeover which I suspect will be the case for William.

When I was last at the Royal Mews they even suggested that it was possible that the Gold State Coach may not be used as it will cost 10 million pounds to refurbish it and that cost is going up annually as well. The other coaches and carriages get used and so are better maintained while it sits there as it costs so much to even move it for any form of maintenance.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:59 PM
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there is no need for closing Westminster Abbey for six months it can be done now in less than 2/3 weeks it's not the 50's anymore , the coronation won't be that much different of a royal wedding even less than a royal wedding cause you don't have as much heads of states in the same place
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:11 AM
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The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Tiara Thursday: Queen Victoria's Strawberry Leaf Tiara

A stunningly beautiful tiara. It is a wonderful design.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:33 AM
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Very pretty....when's the last time it was worn?


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Old 09-29-2016, 02:46 PM
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Is it still with the BRF?

Its another tiara that really suited Queen Victoria Eugenie of Spain.
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Old 10-01-2016, 02:07 AM
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The County of Surrey Tiara | The Court Jeweller

This is a striking tiara, though I do not like the design.
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Old 10-01-2016, 05:40 AM
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Elegant and beautiful tiara! Ans as necklace too!!
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Old 10-05-2016, 02:39 AM
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The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Flashback Friday: The Splendor of Queen Alexandra

She had a magnificent collection. Truly a regal and breathtaking collection of a Queen.
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Alexandra was lucky that Bertie was a generous husband in those early years. I can't imagine Queen Victoria, deep in her mourning and deploring London Society life, handing over too many of her jewels!

Incidentally I believe Bertie's wedding ring bought for Alexandra contained the stones Beryl, emerald, ruby, Topaz, Jancinthe (representing the i) etc., spelling out 'Bertie'. Typical of many acrostic Victorian rings, which have messages like 'Dearest' in gemstones.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:19 PM
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The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: My Ultimate Tiara Collection: Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara

An absolutely stunning and regal tiara. The style and emeralds are exquisite. This is one of my all time favorites.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:47 PM
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Beautiful! When was it worn last?


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