Queen Frederika (1917-1981)

[juliamontague]

Originally Posted by laskaris

...Has anybody photos of the Greek Royal Family,(Southafrican Era??)Please post!

The caption says that this one was taken in South Africa

[tiaraprin]

I believe Queen Fredericka was hated due to her German heritage and her forceful personality. It help cost her son Constantine the crown of Greece, but then again, Greece was never a stable monarchial country. Fredericka's daughter became Queen of Spain, the present Queen Sofia.

I don't think Fredericka was a Nazi just because she was German. I am of German descent and I am sure as heck NOT A NAZI!!! My German grandfather fought for the United States in World War II and landed on the beach at Normandy on DDay. He received the Fleur de Lys from the French Government. He also helped liberate Auschwitz. A German man did all of that and he was my Grandfather and I loved him very much!!

[michelleq]

I am constantly telling people that many, many Germans were not Nazis. It is a falsehood that created hatred to all Germans. Many Germans in Germany hid and helped Jews (as well as Polish) to escape persecution. This would be a wonderful world when we as the Human Race stop persecuting people because of their color and or nationality.

[iowabelle]

Originally Posted by George II

O.K.

And I heard something about her dead in 1981. She died in Madrid, but I heard something about poisoning. She was poisoned by former rivals from Greece, but I think this is not treu. Do you know anything about this?

Regards... George II

She died while having opthalmic surgery. I think she had a heart attack. Too sad for her family, age 64 is fairly young.

[iowabelle]

Originally Posted by George II

And I also heard she lived in Egypt, but why and when??

She and her older 2 children (Sofia and Constantine) fled Greece during the Nazi invasion. Later, they moved on to South Africa, where Princess Irene was born.

[lula]

What I have listened at some time is that she died for some complication after an operation of cosmetic surgery. I believe that I listened to it in some program on the life of the Prince Felipe, because the death of his grandmother marked him enough, he was still small and had had to remain in Madrid studying while the family had gone away to some place, and was only when they gave to him the news.

[laskaris]

as I remmember I've red in the news papers.. May God rest Her Majestie's soul!!


Here is Link:

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[Sean.~]

Originally Posted by lula

What I have listened at some time is that she died for some complication after an operation of cosmetic surgery. I believe that I listened to it in some program on the life of the Prince Felipe, because the death of his grandmother marked him enough, he was still small and had had to remain in Madrid studying while the family had gone away to some place, and was only when they gave to him the news.

It was some kind of eye surgery, actually.

[kelly9480]

I've always read that she was having the skin around her eyes tightened or something, but it's always been described as cosmetic.

[rchainho]

more pics in ITN.

EUROPEAN ROYAL LUXURY CRUISE http://www.itnstills.com/still.php?result=1

GREEK ROYALS STATE VISIT http://www.itnstills.com/still.php?result=5

KING PAUL & QUEEN FREDERIKA IN GERMANY http://www.itnstills.com/still.php?s...39b296b007255e

KING & QUEEN OF GREECE IN USA http://www.itnstills.com/still.php?result=14

there are more in that website.

[iowabelle]

Originally Posted by juliamontague

The caption says that this one was taken in South Africa

I think that's Jan Smuts (the older gentleman) with the family. He was Irene's godfather since she was born in South Africa.

[sinulord]

In many of Queen Frederica's photos, one finds her smiling or in a jovial mood. She must have been a happy character. She must have also been immensely generous, especially after reading about the thousands of orphaned and poor children she helped during the Greek Civil War and how, together with the King, worked tirelessly for Greece.
Bless her soul....

[Splodger]

Frederica was popular in Greece until the 60s. She had a german air of pomp and ceromony which used to upset a few people. Elini Vlachou the editior of an Athinian news paper was told once she was comming to visit the office and expected everyone to kiss her hand... however when she arrived she was as relaxed and informal and made everyone feel easy... perhaps she used to make people expect a stiff cold person so they were then blown off their feet when they met her.

She became really unpopular however when her son became King beacuse she obviously had alot more experience and was seen as beeing influencial on his choices and decissions. However alot of this had to do with the rumour mungering that went on around the pro-socialist government that wanted to discredit the monarchy. After the fall of the Junta the republicans put up posters of her on bill boards with the caption "i am comming" to scare people off voting for a monarchy. She knew she was unpopular (although i do beleive unfairly) by this time and she distanced herself from Constantine and went off traveling on her own and spent time in India... however people still picked up on this and made it out she had given up greek orthadoxy and gone all indian on them. Poor woman couldnt do anything right.

My ex's grandmother didnt like her beacuse she beleived she stole alot of money from the Greek orphanage fund for her self and she was a monarchist... however i always argued over that beacuse she hardley seemed to benefit from the money and as it was supposed to have happened when she was in exil it would have made things difficult... was more republican lies.

[edelmibea]

Originally Posted by George II

O.K.

And I heard something about her dead in 1981. She died in Madrid, but I heard something about poisoning. She was poisoned by former rivals from Greece, but I think this is not treu. Do you know anything about this?

Regards... George II

I read that she suffered a heart attac after a plastic surgery. Hers parents were on vacation and she didn,t go this them because the plastic surgery was a secret and she stay in Madrid with Dr. Carlos Zurita a Infanta Dona Margarita,s husband. This was a terrible notice to her family that has left her in very good condition two or three days ago.
Pardon my bad english but I wish you,ll understend .

[Marengo]

your english is perfeclty fine, edelmibea, so don' t worry about that.
I never heard that plastic-surgery part of the story before, but just that she had a heart attack. Interesting though.

[Philippe Egalite']

Well, the whole thing about the cause of death was widely publicized. The only difference between the official communique' and the rumours was that according to the Palace she died during an ophthalmic operation while according to hearsay she died during plastic surgery.

[Odette]

Queen Frederica was a very interesting person who worked very hard when she returned to Greece after the war was over. Unfornunately she was not appreciated by a lot of Greek people and there was a lot of controversy surrounding her. She was a strong willed woman and then as now they do not get well accepted by the status quo.

[Raniaf4]

No,the royal graves weren't destroyed during an earthquake.They are still in Tatoi.

[Menarue]

Originally Posted by George II

O.K.

And I heard something about her dead in 1981. She died in Madrid, but I heard something about poisoning. She was poisoned by former rivals from Greece, but I think this is not treu. Do you know anything about this?

Regards... George II

She died of a blood clot after an operation.