King Paul I (1901-1964) and Queen Frederika (1917-1981)

[Maura724]

I found this photo tonight of Sophie and Frederica just after Sophie's birth. I'd never seen it before; it's sweet.

Photos from THE GREEK ROYAL FAMILY | Facebook

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by Maura724

I found this photo tonight of Sophie and Frederica just after Sophie's birth. I'd never seen it before; it's sweet.

Photos from THE GREEK ROYAL FAMILY | Facebook

It is very nice. How did you come across it?

[Nikolopoulus]

yes, I saw that picture, there are some people on Facebook who have a personal albums of Royales houses very nice, http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1292438623 In picture is Queen Federika with Princess Sofia and Prince Constantine

[Maura724]

Vasillisos, I just discovered on Facebook that there was a group with a huge album of Greek royal pictures - there's a ton from several different eras.

Nikolopoulus - that's cute! I love baby pictures.

[Vasillisos Markos]

Maura,

Thanks for the information. Someday I will have to create a Facebook profile . . . .

[Aussieprincess]

Hi all, not sure if you are aware, but QF's mother, Duchess Viktoria Luise of Brauschweig's autobigraphy, titled, "The Kaiser's Daughter, Memories of HRH Viktoria Luise of Prussia," include several pictures of QF, and all her family,with plenty of information.
The front cover features a little Viktoria Luise, sitting on her Kaiser Wilhelm II's lap. In it,VL mentions that the last thing he saw, before he went blind, was a photograph of QF holding a little Sofia.
English version of autobiography, which I have, is edited by Robert Vacha, and was printed in 1972, eight years before the death of VL, and 9 before QF herself.

[Vasillisos Markos]

My dear Aussieprincess,

I am reading King, Kaiser, Tsar and thorougly enjoying the book. There is so much that I am learning about the three men, King George V of England, Kaiser Wilhelm II and Tsar Nicholas II, things which I had never read in other biographies. Another joy to the book is learning more about the people in their lives. I am hoping that there will be mention about Viktoria Luise and Frederika near the end of the book.

[EmpressRouge]

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

My dear Aussieprincess,

I am reading King, Kaiser, Tsar and thorougly enjoying the book. There is so much that I am learning about the three men, King George V of England, Kaiser Wilhelm II and Tsar Nicholas II, things which I had never read in other biographies. Another joy to the book is learning more about the people in their lives. I am hoping that there will be mention about Viktoria Luise and Frederika near the end of the book.

Actually, there was surprisingly good insight into Queen Frederika in "Alice, Princess Andrew of Greece" by Hugo Vickers about the Duke of Edinburgh's mother. It's brief, but it was evident that Princess Andrew was not a fan of Queen Frederika.

[Vasillisos Markos]

My dear EmpressRouge,

I read the Vicker's biography of Princess Andrew and enjoyed it. You are correct -- although Princess Andrew and Princess Nicholas (Elena Vladimirovna who was the mother of Marina, Duchess of Kent) were not close, the two princesses were the only members of the Greek royal family to remain in the country during World War II. For some reason, Frederika kept Princess Andrew in the dark about Princess Nicholas's final illness until it was too late to see her before she died. This upset Pss Andrew greatly and she never quite forgave Frederika.

[CSENYC]

King, Kaiser, Tsar is an excellent book.

If King Paul I had lived longer- say, until the 1980s- would the Greek monarchy have been overthrown?

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Aussieprincess

Hi all, not sure if you are aware, but QF's mother, Duchess Viktoria Luise of Brauschweig's autobigraphy, titled, "The Kaiser's Daughter, Memories of HRH Viktoria Luise of Prussia," include several pictures of QF, and all her family,with plenty of information.
The front cover features a little Viktoria Luise, sitting on her Kaiser Wilhelm II's lap. In it,VL mentions that the last thing he saw, before he went blind, was a photograph of QF holding a little Sofia.
English version of autobiography, which I have, is edited by Robert Vacha, and was printed in 1972, eight years before the death of VL, and 9 before QF herself.

As I understand it the relationship between Viktoria Luise and Frederica was a difficult one. Can anyone provide details on their problems?

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by CSENYC

King, Kaiser, Tsar is an excellent book.

If King Paul I had lived longer- say, until the 1980s- would the Greek monarchy have been overthrown?

My dear CSENYC,

It is hard to say, but Paul may have been able to hold on to the throne. I don't think he would have left as quickly as poor Constantine because Paul was more mature and older.