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Old 09-13-2008, 09:54 AM
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Recently I read that the Greek royal house was owner of a company aircraft, they were the maximum action, which was company? Remains of them?
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:03 PM
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I have spoke here of the company aircraft, I want to specify that the company may have been of King Pavlo ...
The company performed in the decade of the 30, when Pavlo was not king,a specific engine airplane .. but I do not know what airplane it was.
I have read that family may have been maximun titular actions of company.
I do not know if it is a company manufacturing of planes or for commercial aircraft ... But it spoke of an engine airplane that in the decade of the 30 it was a novelty in the field airplane.
I do not know if it is of Royal Family, Now..
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:43 PM
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Belt I never heard of any connection between the King and aircraft companies.
Early on in the 70's he was working in some of the Shah's of Iran interests but there have never been any companies KC ever owned or ran.
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:58 AM
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It is true that besides being friends the two royal families were involved in business. King Constantine had been in business with the late king Hussein, though I'm not sure if this is still on with the next generation of Jordan Royals. In any case the friendship is on and, remember Prince Felipe of Spain interrupted his honeymoon to attend a Royal wedding in Jordan, along with his mother and members of the GRF.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:43 AM
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Exclamation King Constantine´s Interview in 2006

Our beloved King Constantine has given an interview in 2006 to the Greek Newspaper To Vima.

Is there anybody who hast this interview in English?!

My greek is very bad and it takes to 30 pages.

Or is there anyone who can translate me the full interview?!

Thx,

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Old 07-06-2010, 03:10 PM
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When King Konstantinos II is in Greece does he meet greek politicians?
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:17 AM
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All Greeks of a certain age and above recognize King Constantine when they see him. Likewise, he is familiar with many politicians simply because he is an avid watcher of Greek TV.
When in Athens, he stays usually at the Grande Bretagne, where he likes to socialize at the ground-floor Bar. Whenever it happens for a politician and King Constantine to be there, he usually greets and shakes hands politely with whomever he recognizes. I believe this is all the contact King Constantine has with the political world, except with Mr. Constantine Mitsotakis with whom he maintains a friendship. In fact, a year or so ago, Constantine and Anne-Marie visited with the Mitsotakises in Chania, Crete, the native place of the former prime minister.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:40 AM
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they never talk about politics, Misotakis is art collector Byzantine and Constantine collaborates with Orthodox Church in exhibitions of Byzantine art, but they never talk about politics. And King did not visited Misotakis, Constantine was visiting Crete, Misotakis saw it in the press, would look for the phone and call him and invite him to his house, but they never talk about politician


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Old 07-07-2010, 06:53 PM
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What I said was that the the Kings visited with the Mitsotakises, meaning here, talked with.
King Constantine and Mr. Mitsotakis maintain a friendship that has nothing to do with collecting of Byzantine icons or having an interest in the topic by either party. But I do agree that there is nothing of a political nature in their association.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:39 AM
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This is true, the King of Greece works with the Orthodox Church.
They are friends but I do not know if they are intimate or simple friend. In the interview in Chania, Crete, King said they did not spoke of politics. And at the wedding of Princess Alexia, some media reports said was present at the wedding an important Greek politician (they did not say the name, but was rumored that was Misotakis) .
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:41 PM
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No, at the weddig of princess Alexia Mitsotakis wasn't invited. I was there and i remember well. Only 1 member of the parliament, old friend of the King was there.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:09 PM
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I don´t found pictures, but it was said by some journalists that Misotakis was in wedding.
but I think that if they are intimate friends , the wedding of Nikolaos is a good moment for demonstrate this ,
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:45 PM
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At a moment that the Mitsotakises are under fire from Right and Left, I doubt they would attend even if they were invited.
Insofar as the Greel royal weddings were concerned, I know that Alexandros Lykourezos, once a New Democracy MP, attended one.

At any rate, the Mitsotakis family are Liberals, in the European meaning of the word [neoliberals in American lingo], which implies that, unlike the Right and the Left, they are fierce anti-populists, pro-free-market economy and, like many of us, they would not put too much emphasis on whether the symbolic Head of State is hereditary or not.
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I agree with Sylvia.

Although, I agree that the people of Greece have a right to choose their own form of goverment. The fact is that the members of the GRF are who they are. Their titles are their birthrights. Is Queen Anne-Marie supposed to have a press conference and say to the world, "Oh please just call me Anne-Marie or Annie?" That would be insanely ridiculous. It is a matter of respect and dignity.

Regardless of what may happen in the years to come and whether or not in the future members of the GRF use their titles (or happen to be addressed as such), their bloodline will still remain as it is. Royalty is invested within a person and not within a goverment. It can exist even though the respective country of a royal house/family is now a republic, etc. An individual does not cease to be royal simply because there have been referendums and the monarchy has been abolished. They may no longer be reigning (and even in exile) and may no longer have official duties, but there ancestry is as it is as Syliva pointed out so very well.

I also agree with Sylvia that is very obvious that members of the GRF do not go around begging to be in the spotlight and to speak at certain events or become members of various charities. They are sought out on many occassions and they graciously accept which makes it clear that in many circles there presence is in demand and they are highly respected.
I agree with Jacqueline.
The King of the Hellenes is the King of the Hellenes because of who he is, not because of what he is or because of what he may be today.
Respectfully, the Crown Prince's wife is also a Princess and must use exactly that as her title.
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Our beloved King Constantine has given an interview in 2006 to the Greek Newspaper To Vima.

Is there anybody who hast this interview in English?!

My greek is very bad and it takes to 30 pages.

Or is there anyone who can translate me the full interview?!

Thx,

Kai
Yes indeed, I can translate into english the King's interview in Το Βήμα for you. Just send.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:26 PM
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When King Konstantinos II is in Greece does he meet greek politicians?
He has done so for many times in the past to meet politicians and clergymen over formal occasions of fullfilling his royal duties of former monarch. His visits to Greece are far more frequent today than what they used to be, and where initially desputed over so called misunderstandments, that he has also even moved in permanently to Athens from London.
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It is true that besides being friends the two royal families were involved in business. King Constantine had been in business with the late king Hussein, though I'm not sure if this is still on with the next generation of Jordan Royals. In any case the friendship is on and, remember Prince Felipe of Spain interrupted his honeymoon to attend a Royal wedding in Jordan, along with his mother and members of the GRF.
I'm not sure about Doing business for Hussein but Constantine did business on behalf of the shah in the 1970s - Asadollah Alam's diary has more information on this along with Constantine and Anne-Marie's friendship with the Shah and Empress Farah. Both Constantine, his brother in law Juan Carlos, and a variety of other European royals have done buisness with the Shah and then a number of other Arab kings over the decades - the most important since the down fall of the Shah have been the Saudi kings and most of these deals have been about property, oil, and weapons. A lot of these deals would in fact constitue influence peddling as these royals often act as middle men as a way of bypassing official channels and in sme cases sanctions. Read Andrew Scott Coopers The Oil Kings for more about this wheeling and dealing.

Constantine would also attempt to secure refuge for the Shah and his family in the UK after the Iranian revolution but without success.

It's been rumoured that Constantine speaks Arabic (I wouldn't be surprised if he did - he lived in Egypt as a child and said he was able to speak it then), which would make him very handy as a go between on matters of such importance. Besides the GRF have had long ties to the ME, and to the JRF in particular and Constantine's aunt, princess Catherine lived in Iraq in the late 40s early 50s with her husband and they got to know the Iraqi kings (cousins of the Jordanian kings) well. Arab oil is strongly tied up with Greek shipping and the Arab kingdoms invest heavily in Greece, so someone like C would be a perfect go between for Greece's shipping tycoons and the Arab oil kings.

Onassis wasn't interested in royalty although he made an exception for Rainer and Grace - he was into celebrities and simply happened to be wherever the wind was blowing - he was a long time financial backer of everyone's favourite premier turned president Karaminlis. I don't think it was anything personal per se as Ari's first wife was supportive of the monarchy and C was also very saddened by the death of Christina Onassis, esp when he was barred from attending her funeral in 1988. Niarchos, on the other hand was a massive royalty snob/fanboy, Constantine was the godfather and namesake of one of his sons (this one later died after ingesting enough cocaine for 25 men) and I think he may have been the one who brought that whopping sapphire for Freddy. He also helped arrange the cruise of the Agamemnon in 1954. However profit came first and many were happy to support the colonels government. A lot of the later friendship with C was about posthumous loyalty to Cs parents, a nostalgia for the royal court (always a great place to social climb and show off ill gotten wealth), and a desire to stick one to A-Pap. Come to think of it Onassiss anti monarchy thing may have been yet another way of one upping Niarchos - he was (in his own mind) so big he did not need to hob nob with people like that. These types are long on money and short on conscience.

Sorry about the rambling, it's late, it's Friday and well past my bedtime
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