Royal Death

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

As strange as it sounds, there's something comforting about seeing a deceased loved one lying out after the funeral director has done his job. I had two deaths in my family within three weeks (a parent and a parent-in-law), and it was nice to see them looking very similar to the way they looked in life. In some cases of violent death or extreme emaciation, of course, it's better to have a closed casket. Usually the casket is closed during the actual funeral where I live, but a person can view the remains during the visitation with the family the day or so before the funeral. Most visitations are in funeral homes now and rarely in private homes.

I am so sorry for your loss. It must have been hard.
It is very difficult for me to see someone either close or not laying in a casket. What is even more difficult is the custom in the US to have all the bereaved after the funeral go either to a home or a restaurant and feast on foods the deceased loved. Some say it is a celebration of one's life. I go crazy just thinking that these were crying an hour ago and now ask someone to pass the lasagna tray.............

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

In some cases of violent death or extreme emaciation, of course, it's better to have a closed casket.

A Corleon funeral comes to mind. . . .

[Lilla]

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In Denmark it is a tradition to bury the Kings and Queens at the Cathedral of Roskilde. Here is a list of kings and queens who so far has been buried there:

• Harald Blåtand* (Harald Bluetooth)
• Svend Tveskæg*(Sven Forkbeard)
• Svend II Estridsen
• Margrete I
• Christoffer III and Dorothea of Brandenburg
• Christian I
• Christian III and Dorothea of Sachsen-Lauenburg
• Frederik II and Sophie of Mecklenburg
• Christian IV and Anna Cathrine of Brandenburg
• Frederik III and Sophie Amalie of Braunschweig-Lüneburg
• Christian V and Charlotte Amalie of Hessen-Kassel
• Frederik IV and Louise of Mecklenburg-Güstrow and Anna Sophie Reventlow
• Christian VI and Sophie Magdalene of Brandenburg-Kulmbach
• Frederik V and Louise af Storbritannien and Juliana Marie of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel
• Christian VII
• Frederik VI and Marie Sophie Fredrikke of Hessen-Kassel
• Christian VIII and Caroline Amalie of Augustenborg
• Frederik VII
• Christian IX and Louise of Hessen-Kassel
• Frederik VIII and Louise of Sverige-Norge
• Christian X and Alexandrine of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
• Frederik IX and Ingrid

*Harald Blåtand and Svend Tveskæg was actually buried in the Church of Trinity. But it used to stand at the exact same spot where the Cathedral stands today.

The Empress of Russia Marie Feodorovna (Princess Dagmar of Denmark) was also buried at Roskilde Cathedral until the 23th of september 2006, when her coffin was returned to Russia.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Lilla

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In Denmark it is a tradition to bury the Kings and Queens at the Cathedral of Roskilde. Here is a list of kings and queens who so far has been buried there:

• Harald Blåtand* (Harald Bluetooth)
• Svend Tveskæg*(Sven Forkbeard)
• Svend II Estridsen
• Margrete I
• Christoffer III and Dorothea of Brandenburg
• Christian I
• Christian III and Dorothea of Sachsen-Lauenburg
• Frederik II and Sophie of Mecklenburg
• Christian IV and Anna Cathrine of Brandenburg
• Frederik III and Sophie Amalie of Braunschweig-Lüneburg
• Christian V and Charlotte Amalie of Hessen-Kassel
• Frederik IV and Louise of Mecklenburg-Güstrow and Anna Sophie Reventlow
• Christian VI and Sophie Magdalene of Brandenburg-Kulmbach
• Frederik V and Louise af Storbritannien and Juliana Marie of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel
• Christian VII
• Frederik VI and Marie Sophie Fredrikke of Hessen-Kassel
• Christian VIII and Caroline Amalie of Augustenborg
• Frederik VII
• Christian IX and Louise of Hessen-Kassel
• Frederik VIII and Louise of Sverige-Norge
• Christian X and Alexandrine of Mecklenburg-Schwerin
• Frederik IX and Ingrid

*Harald Blåtand and Svend Tveskæg was actually buried in the Church of Trinity. But it used to stand at the exact same spot where the Cathedral stands today.

The Empress of Russia Marie Feodorovna (Princess Dagmar of Denmark) was also buried at Roskilde Cathedral until the 23th of september 2006, when her coffin was returned to Russia.

To Lilla:

roskildedom

courtesy Mardam´s wonderfull site.

[Empress]

Wow Lilla! What a wonderful resource! I'm off to go exploring those links now! Thanks!

[Elspeth]

The off-topic conversation about Princess Diana, the paparazzi, and the drunk driver has been moved to this thread.

[Lilla]

It hasn't alwayes been a tradition to bury the monarchs at Roskilde Cathedral - not until about year 1550. This post and the next post contains a list of where the danish Kings were buried before that:

• Gorm den Gamle (Gorm the Old) It is presumed that he was buried in the chamber of the northern burial mound.in Jellinge. Later he was transfered to Jellinge Church.
• Harald 2. buried at ?
• 1018-1035Knud 2. den Store (Canute the Great) buried at Winchester Cathedral, Hampshire, England
• 1035-1042Knud 3. Hardeknud (Canute Hardecanute) buried at Winchester Cathedral, Hampshire, England
• 1042-1047Magnus den Gode (Magnus the Good) buried at Nidarosdomen, Trondheim, Norway
• 1074-1080Harald 3. Hen buried at Dalby Church, Skåne, Sweden.
• 1080-1086Knud 4. den Hellige (Canute the Holy) buried at St. Kunds Church, Odense
• 1086-1095Oluf 1. Hunger ( Oluf Hunger) buried at ?
• 1095-1103Erik 1. Ejegod ( Eric Ever so Good) buried in Cyprus.
• 1104-1134Niels buried at ?
• 1134-1137Erik 2. Emune buried at Ribe Cathedral.
• 1137-1146Erik 3. Lam (Eric the Lamb) buried at St. Knuds Church, Odense.
• 1146-1157Svend 3. Grathe*, is said to have been buried where he was killed at Grathe Heath.
• Knud 5*. buried at ?
• 1157-1182Valdemar 1. den Store* (Valdemar the Great) buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted

* For a short period in history (1146 - 1157) Denmark was split between these three Kings. This started a war which Valdemar the Great (Valdemar 1. den Store) won.
Source: www.gravsted.dk and Wikipedia

[Lilla]

and:

• 1182-1202Knud 6. buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted
• 1202-1241Valdemar 2. Sejr (Valdemar the Victorious) buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted
• 1241-1250Erik 4. Plovpenning (Eric Pough-pfenning) buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted
• 1250-1252Abel buried at Slesvig Cathedral.
• 1252-1259Christoffer 1. buried at Ribe Cathedral
• 1259-1286Erik 5. Klipping buried at Viborg Cathedral
• 1286-1319Erik 6. Menved buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted
• 1320-1326Christoffer 2. buried at Sorø Church.
• 1326-1329Valdemar 3. buried at St. Bendts Church, Ringsted
• 1329-1332Christoffer 2. buried at Sorø Church.
• 1340-1375Valdemar 4. Atterdag (Valdemar One more Day) buried at Sorø Church.
• 1376-1387Oluf 2. buried at Sorø Church.
• 1412-1439Erik 7. af Pommern (Eric of Pommorainia)buried at the church of Darlowo, Rügenwalde
• 1481-1513Hans buried at St. Kunds Church, Odense
• 1513-1523Christian 2. buried at St. Kunds Church, Odense
• 1523-1533Frederik 1. buried at Slesvig Cathedral

Source: www.gravsted.dk and Wikipedia

[sirhon11234]

I remember Grace's hands were well manicured..

The only celebrity who looked like they were sleeping in their coffin to me was the singer Selena who was shot by her fanclub president.

[Carminha Stalker]

Odette, I understand your feelings, about how different are funerals in your country and the US, for example. In Brasil, we also bury the person the same day with the exception of very famous people like a President or racing driver Ayrton Senna (who were both put in a place where people could come to pay their last respects).Also, here we don´t have the gathering of people to eat and drink after a funeral.

[MARG]

I find that when we talk of Royalty we talk of their death, not their "passing". I don't know where that expression originated, but it seems as though it dulls the edge of death, as if somehow they are not totally dead. They just "passed". It sounds like a road trip!

If we shun the words "death" and "dead" we do not give ourselves permission to grieve and move on with our lives. But, when a member of Royalty dies, they are dead. No politically correct euphamisms there. Royalty are the greatest pragmatists. The King is dead, long live the King! Or at least he had better be dead or the heir could not take the throne.

Royalty mourns, celebrates the life of the loved one, bury their dead, crown his sucessor and get on with the business of life. Queen Elizabeth mourned her father, wore black and veiled her face at his funeral, but she was now the Queen and black was not an option so, once again being wonderfully pragmatic, she went forth celebrating his life in an all-white wardrobe. Just stunning, and noone was in any doubt that she was "in mourning" but, she was a Queen in mourning!

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Nazma FOURRE

Why has the world been deprived from the sight of Diana's face before her burial Nazma FOURRE

It was a closed casket. What possible satisfaction could anyone take from seeing a young woman who suffered injuries, laying in a casket?
I do not think anyone was 'deprived" It was funeral that was televised throughout the world. What more did you expect to see?