The Hashemites

[tipper]

some pix of JRF ancestors, and of Muna and kids in London, in Sept '03, 2 pix of Q dina and KH's wed in '55, -PS- 2 pix of Nayef, Noor Hamzah's grandfather, and of KA the I and K Talal.

 

[maryshawn]

Thank You!

I love the photos! A lot of energy and time had to have gone into posting them....thank you so very much for doing all of this work so we can all enjoy these lovely images!!!!

Mary Shawn

 

[sommone]

Yes, thanks tipper for posting these pictures....Some of the people I don't quite recognize.

 

[tipper]

Yes, thanks tipper for posting these pictures....Some of the people I don't quite recognize.

if u tell me which pix, I mean in which u did not recognize some1 ? hope to be of any help-

 

[sommone]

if u tell me which pix, I mean in which u did not recognize some1 ? hope to be of any help-

The first four pictures in the first post...The men...I don't recognize any of them.

 

[tipper]

some pix of JRF ancestors, and of Muna and kids in London, in Sept '03, 2 pix of Q dina and KH's wed in '55, -PS- 2 pix of Nayef, Noor Hamzah's grandfather, and of KA the I and K Talal.

the first pic is of K Talal, the 2nd is of KA the I, the 3rd and 4th are of P Nayef, P Noor Hamzah's grandfather.

 

[Avalon]

This thread is to discuss the Hashemite dynasty, starting from HAshim ibn Abd al-Manaf, the founder of the dynasty, to King Talal I, father of King Hussein II and grandfather of the current King.

Here is the brief introduction to the Hashemite dynasty:

The Hashemites trace their ancestry from Hashim ibn Abd al-Manaf, the great-grandfather of Prophet Muhammad, from who the dynasty name comes. It is also believed the dynasty is descendant from Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter. The struggle between Hashemites and rival dynasty Umayyads eventually led to the religious split between Sunni and Shia.

After the collapse of the Ottoman power, Hussein bin Ali of the Hashemite dynasty rules and independent Hejaz. His rival, Ibn Saud, annexed Hejaz and named his own son, Faysal bin Abdelaziz al Saud as governor. The region was later incorporated into Saudi Arabia.

Of Hussein’s 5 sons, the eldest, Ali, briefly succeeded to the Throne of Hejaz, before it was annexed to the Saud Family. His second son, Abdullah later became King of Transjordan, and whose descendants established the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Hussein’s third son, Faisal, was briefly King of Syria, before becoming King of Iraq. Hussein’s fourth son, Prince Zeid, became claimant to the Throne of Iraq, when his brother’s grandson was overthrown and murdered in 1958. Prince Hassan died at a young age.

The rule of Hashemite dynasty in Iraq ended after 1958 revolution, however the dynasty continues to successfully rule in Jordan.

 

[kaffir]

Isn't there a thread on this somewhere?

 

[Avalon]

We have Hashemite Dynasty thread in the Royal Geneology Forum, which is focused on the geneology of the family.
This thread is for general discussion of the Dynasty.

 

[yamamah]

King Hussein was very popular but he was king for 46 years. The only other two kings before him were reigning for 2 years before assassination and 1 year before being sent to a mental health institution so really I am not surprised about your statment of hussein being the most popular and abdullah doesn't match up to his father in many people's eyes. Rania definitely needs to spend much more time in Jordan doing things that actually makes a difference and to stop the top down attitude of knowing what is best. There are many educated people in Jordan but if you aren't a favourite then you don't get heard.

 

[Veram98]

King Hussein was very popular but he was king for 46 years. The only other two kings before him were reigning for 2 years before assassination and 1 year before being sent to a mental health institution so really I am not surprised about your statment of hussein being the most popular and abdullah doesn't match up to his father in many people's eyes. Rania definitely needs to spend much more time in Jordan doing things that actually makes a difference and to stop the top down attitude of knowing what is best. There are many educated people in Jordan but if you aren't a favourite then you don't get heard.

King Abdullah I may have been king for only 2 or 3 years, but since 1923 he was the Emir of (then) Transjordan.

 

[yamamah]

King Abdullah I may have been king for only 2 or 3 years, but since 1923 he was the Emir of (then) Transjordan.

Yes but let's be honest the royal house of Jordan is a British invention and the Hashemites aren't even Jordanian but from the Hejaz.

 

[Veram98]

Yes, (Trans-)Jordan was created by the British Empire. Almost all the borders in the Middle East were "created" by Britain (and France).
But nowadays the Arabs living there (in former Trans-Jordan) see themselves first as Jordanians than as Arabs (at least the East Bankers) and have more or less accepted being ruled by the Hashemites (from Mecca).

 

[yamamah]

But there are more West Bankers there now and things aren't as settled internally.

 

[Veram98]

There are (many) problems between East and West Bankers and they cannot be resolved before the Palestinian problem as a whole will find a just solution. But even for the Palestinians in Jordan (who still do not know if they will stay for ever there or return to the other side of the Jordan river one day) there is no credible alternative to the actual regime.

 

[yamamah]

There are (many) problems between East and West Bankers and they cannot be resolved before the Palestinian problem as a whole will find a just solution. But even for the Palestinians in Jordan (who still do not know if they will stay for ever there or return to the other side of the Jordan river one day) there is no credible alternative to the actual regime.

The aspirations of the people to govern themselves have never been fostered but let's do this via pm OK?

 

[Veram98]

The aspirations of the people to govern themselves have never been fostered but let's do this via pm OK?

That is unfortunately the standard not the exception in the Middle East.

We've been trying over the past couple of years to add more substantive content; we do allow political discussions (and religious ones) as long as they have something to do with the royal topics, which is a relaxation of the earlier rules which involved a blanket prohibition)

 

[Amoula]

King Abdullah I may have been king for only 2 or 3 years, but since 1923 he was the Emir of (then) Transjordan.

Actually 1921 not 1923

 

[Veram98]

Yes, but only in May 1923 Transjordan was granted by the British a certain degree of formal independence with Abdullah as ruler in an official announcement.

 

[Rossina]

Hashemites of Iraq -cousins of the Jordanian royal family

Cousins of the jordanian royal family .... royals of Iraq
HM king Faisal I of Iraq and Syria ...
HM king Ghazi of Iraq..
HM king King Faisal II...
Crown Prince Abd al-Ilāh of Iraq

 

[Rossina]

View attachment 268463

Let us start with Faisal I of Iraq and Syria ..
Born : 20 May 1883 Taif ( now in saudi Arabia )
full name : Faisal bin Al Hussein Bin Ali El-Hashemi
( 11 March 1920 _ 25 July !920 ) king of Syria
(23 August 1921 _ 8 September !933) king of Iraq​

His fathrer was Sharif Hussein bin ali of Mecca & his mother was princess Abdiyah bint abdullah .his brother was king Abdullah I of jordan
Faisal was married to Huzaima bint Nasser (her twin sister was Queen MUsbah of Jordan ... Abdullah I of jordan wife ) and had one son and three daughters :​

Princess Azza bint Faisal
Princess Rajiha bint Faisal
Princess Raifia bint Faisal

King Ghazi of iraq​

 

[maram33]

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ew34ie.jpg

 

[AbuTheMonkey]

the hashemites

anyone know the estimate of hashimites in the world?

 

[Blog Real]

Genealogy of the Royal Family of Jordan

Abdullah I bin Al-Hussein (Abd Allāh al-Awwal bin al-Husayn, 2 February 1882 – 20 July 1951)
Abdullah married three times.

In 1904, Abdullah married his first wife, Musbah bint Nasser (1884 – 15 March 1961), at Stinia Palace, İstinye, Istanbul, Ottoman Empire. She was a daughter of Emir Nasser Pasha and his wife, Dilber Khanum. They had three children:

• Princess Haya (1907–1990). Married Abdul-Karim Ja'afar Zeid Dhaoui.
• King Talal (26 February 1909 – 7 July 1972).
• Princess Munira (1915–1987). Never married.

In 1913, Abdullah married his second wife, Suzdil Khanum (d. 16 August 1968), in Istanbul, Turkey. They had two children:

• Prince Nayef bin Abdullah (14 November 1914 – 12 October 1983; a colonel of the Royal Jordanian Land Force. Regent for his older half-brother, Talal, from 20 July to 3 September 1951). Married in Cairo or Amman on 7 October 1940 Princess Mihrimah Sultan (11 November 1922 – March 2000, Amman, and buried in Istanbul on 2 April 2000), daughter of the Ottoman prince, Şehzade Mehmed Ziyaeddin (1873–1938) and his fifth consort, Neşemend Hanım (1905–1934), and paternal granddaughter of Mehmed V through his first consort.
  • Prince Ali bin Nayef
  • Prince Asem bin Nayef m. 1.Firouzeh Vokhshouri (m. 1975; div. 1985) 2.Sana Kalimat ​(m.1986)
    • Princess Yasmine m. Basel Yaghnam
    • Princess Sara m. Alejandro Garrido
      • Talal Garrido
      • Lola Garrido
    • Princess Noor m. 1.Prince Hamzah bin Hussein 2.Amr Zedan
      • 1.Princess Haya
      • 2.Talal Zedan
      • 2.Abdullah Zedan
    • Princess Salha m. Mohammad Hashim Haj-Hassan
      • Aisha Haj-Hassan
      • Hashim Haj-Hassan
      • Abdullah Haj-Hassan
    • Princess Nejla m. Nasser Osama Talhouni
    • Prince Nayef m. Sharifa Farah Alluhaymaq
      • Prince Nayef bin Asem
• Princess Maqbula (6 February 1921 – 1 January 2001); married Hussein ibn Nasser, Prime Minister of Jordan (terms 1963–64, 1967).

In 1949, Abdullah married his third wife, Nahda bint Uman, a lady from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, in Amman. They had one child:

• Princess Naifeh (1950–); married Sameer Hilal Ashour.

Talal bin Abdullah (Ṭalāl ibn ʻAbd Allāh; 26 February 1909 – 7 July 1972)
In 1934, Talal married his first cousin Zein al-Sharaf who bore him four sons and two daughters:

• King Hussein (14 November 1935 – 7 February 1999).
• Princess Asma, died at birth in 1937.
• Prince Muhammad (2 October 1940 – 29 April 2021).
  m. 1.Firyal Irshaid
  • Prince Talal m. Ghida Sala'am
    • Prince Hussein
    • Princess Raja'a
    • Prince Muhammad
  • Prince Ghazi m. 1.Areej Zawawi (m. 1997; div. 2020)​
    2. Miriam Ungría y López ​(m. 2022)
    • Princess Tasneem
    • Prince Abdullah
    • Princess Jennah
    • Princess Salsabeel
• Prince Hassan (born 20 March 1947). m. Sarvath Ikramullah
  • Princess Rahma m. Alaa Batayneh
    • Aisha (born 2 January 2002).
    • Aref (born 15 February 2006).
  • Princess Sumaya m. Nasser Judeh ​(m. 1992; div. 2007)
    • Tariq Judeh
    • Zein el Sharaf Judeh
    • Ali Judeh
    • Sukayna Judeh
  • Princess Badiya m. Khaled Edward Blair
  • Prince Rashid m. Zeina Shaban
    • Prince Hassan
    • Prince Talal
• Prince Muhsin, deceased.
• Princess Basma (born 11 May 1951). m. 1.Timoor Daghistani (m. 1970; div. 197?) 2.Walid al-Kurdi ​(m. 1980)
  • 1.Farah Daghistani
  • 1.Ghazi Daghistani
  • 2.Saad al-Kurdi
  • 2.Zein Al-Sharaf al-Kurdi

 

[Blog Real]

Hussein bin Talal (Al-Ḥusayn ibn Ṭalāl; 14 November 1935 – 7 February 1999)

King Hussein married four times and had eleven acknowledged children:

Sharifa Dina bint Abdul-Hamid (1929–2019), on 19 April 1955. She was an Egyptian-born third cousin of King Hussein's father, King Talal. She was a member of the Hashemite family like Hussein and a graduate of Cambridge University and former lecturer in English literature at Cairo University. The marriage was arranged. They separated in 1956 and were divorced in 1957, at which time Princess Dina became known as Her Royal Highness Princess Dina Abdul-Hamid of Jordan. She became an Egyptian citizen in 1963, and in October 1970, Princess Dina of Jordan married Lieut-Colonel Asad Sulayman Abd al-Qadir, alias Salah Ta'amari, a Palestinian guerrilla commando who became a high-ranking official in the Palestine Liberation Organization.

• Princess Alia bint Hussein (born in 1956). Married first to Nasser Wasfi Mirza, they have one child together, a son.
  • Hussein
  They divorced in 1987. She remarried in 1988 to Sayyid Mohammed Al-Saleh; they have two sons.
  • Talal
  • Abdul-Hamid

Antoinette Gardiner ("Toni Gardiner," born in 1941), on 25 May 1961, titled Princess Muna Al-Hussein from marriage. An award-winning field hockey player and daughter of a British army officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Walter Percy Gardiner, she was given the title Her Royal Highness Princess Muna al-Hussein, retaining this title after they divorced on 21 December 1972.

• Abdullah II (born in 1962). The current King of Jordan
• Prince Faisal bin Hussein (born in 1963). Lieutenant-General, former Commander of Royal Jordanian Air Force. Currently Deputy Supreme Commander of the Jordanian Armed Forces. Married first to Alia Tabbaa (now known as Princess Alia Tabbaa). They have four children: Princess Ayah, Prince Omar, and twins Princess Sara and Princess Aisha. They divorced in 2008. He remarried in 2010 to Sara Qabbani and divorced in 2013. He is now married to Zeina Lubadeh, with whom he has two sons
  • Prince Abdullah
  • Prince Muhammad
• Princess Aisha bint Hussein (born in 1968, Zein's twin). Brigadier-General of Jordanian Armed Forces. Married to Zeid Juma, they have two children, a son, Aoun, and a daughter, Muna. They are now divorced. She married Ashraf Banayoti in 2016 and divorced him in the same year.
• Princess Zein bint Hussein (born in 1968, Aisha's twin). Married to Majdi Al-Saleh, they have two children:
  • Jaafar
  • Jumana
  • Tahani Al-Shawan (adopted)

Alia Bahauddin Toukan, Queen Alia Al-Hussein (1948–1977), on 24 December 1972, after whom Jordan's international airport (Queen Alia International Airport) is named. She died in a helicopter crash in Amman, Jordan, in 1977. An Egyptian-born daughter of Jordan's first ambassador to the United Nations, Sayyid Baha ud-din Toukan.

• Princess Haya bint Hussein (born in 1974). President of the Fédération Équestre Internationale 2008–2014.[94] Formerly married to Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice President and Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates and Ruler of Dubai. They have two children:
  • Sheikha Jalila
  • Sheikh Zayed
• Prince Ali bin Hussein (born in 1975). Married to Rym Brahimi now known as Princess Rym al-Ali. They have two children:
  • Princess Jalilah
  • Prince Abdullah
• Abir Muhaisen, (born in 1972, adopted by the couple in 1976).

Lisa Najeeb Halaby (born in 1951), renamed Queen Noor Al-Hussein on her conversion to Islam, married in Amman on 15 June 1978. An Arab-American of Syrian descent, daughter of Najeeb Halaby.

• Hamzah bin Hussein (born in 1980). Married first to Princess Noor bint Asem, third daughter of Prince Asem bin Nayef, by his first wife, Princess Firouzeh Vokhshouri. Princess Noor became Princess Noor al-Hamzah upon her marriage. Together they have a daughter, Princess Haya. They divorced in 2009. He remarried in 2012 to Princess Basmah Bani Ahmad (née Al-Outom); they have four daughters and a son:
  • Princess Zein
  • Princess Noor
  • Princess Badiya
  • Princess Nafisa
  • Prince Hussein
• Prince Hashim bin Hussein (born in 1981). Married to Princess Fahdah (née Abunayyan). They have three daughters and two sons:
  • Princess Halaah
  • Princess Rayet Al-Noor
  • Princess Fatima Al-Alia
  • Prince Hussein Haidara
  • Prince Mohammad Al Hassan
• Princess Iman bint Hussein (born in 1983). Married to Zaid Azmi Mirza, together they have a son, Omar.
• Princess Raiyah bint Hussein (born in 1986). Married to Faris Ned Donovan.

Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein (Abd Allāh aṯ-ṯānī ibn al-Ḥusayn; born 30 January 1962) is King of Jordan, having ascended the throne on 7 February 1999.
King Abdullah met Rania Al-Yassin at a dinner party in January 1993. On 10 June 1993, they were married. King Abdullah and Queen Rania have four children:

• Crown Prince Hussein (born 28 June 1994) m. Rajwa Al Saif
• Princess Iman (born 27 September 1996) m. Jameel Alexander Thermiótis
• Princess Salma (born 26 September 2000)
• Prince Hashem (born 30 January 2005)

List provided by wikipedia and free of copyrights.

 

[HRHTalDuchess]

Are Nasser Wafsi Mirza (P Alia bin Hussein's ex-husband) and Zaid Azmi Mirza (P Iman bint Hussein's husband) related?