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Old 03-19-2006, 01:24 AM
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fascinating, thanks for initiating this thread, I learned a lot! Didn't realize for example she was the mother of Denmark's Ingrid.
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Old 03-19-2006, 03:50 AM
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Thanks ysbel!!
Did he have more children or just the ones with Margretha?
He didnt had more children. Actually queen Louise had a miscarrige (a daughter)

At Margarethas death she layed under her wedding vail( it was a special wish from her if she died young) The same vail was worn by queen Ingrid and her daughters at their wedding so i can understand that the vail has a special value for the family.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:40 PM
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He didnt had more children. Actually queen Louise had a miscarrige (a daughter)
She wasn't a queen yet then though.
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:57 PM
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I really enjoyed the pictures of the Princess. But I am curious, what did she die of? Did she have pneumonia?

It just sounded weird that her jaws were festering! I think her husband sounds like a class act. Is this one marriage that the couple was actually faithful to each other and loved to death???

edited because I forget a word!
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:57 AM
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I've heard pneunomia as the cause of Margareth's death too, but I'm not sure. She was greatly missed though.

As I understand it, both of Gustav VI Adolf's two marriages were love marriages. He chose both Margareth of Connaught and Louise Mountbatten because he loved them. He even had trouble being allowed to marry Louise, because she was not considered a princess before they did some research on her lines and the brittish royal family proclaimed her as a brittish royality.
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:09 AM
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Battenbergs

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He chose both Margareth of Connaught and Louise Mountbatten because he loved them. He even had trouble being allowed to marry Louise, because she was not considered a princess before they did some research on her lines and the brittish royal family proclaimed her as a brittish royality.
Lady Louise Mountbatten was born HSH Princess Louise of Battenberg. She was a sister of both Lord Louis Mountbatten and Princess Alice (Princess Andrew of Greece), who was Prince Philip's mother.

The Battenbergs were a morganatic branch of the Grand Ducal House of Hesse and bei Rhein [Hesse-Darmstadt] and some members had very close connections with Queen Victoria and the British Royal Family. Because of their morganatic descent many of the European families looked down on the Battenbergs as socially inferior.
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Lady Louise Mountbatten was born HSH Princess Louise of Battenberg.
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She was a sister of both Lord Louis Mountbatten and Princess Alice (Princess Andrew of Greece), who was Prince Philip's mother.
I knew Louise had to be related to Philip! So the brittish queen's husband was our queen's nephew?

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The Battenbergs were a morganatic branch of the Grand Ducal House of Hesse and bei Rhein [Hesse-Darmstadt] and some members had very close connections with Queen Victoria and the British Royal Family. Because of their morganatic descent many of the European families looked down on the Battenbergs as socially inferior.
I knew there was something silly going on there, because they were royals. Sadly enough, at least four Swedish princes lost their royal status and right to inherit the thrown because they married the wrong women. Our current queen Silvia is also our first queen since Gunilla Bielke in the 16th century, who hasn't been born a princess. So a crown prince marrying a "common" woman in the 1920s would be a problem.
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His or Her Serene Highness.

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Sadly enough, at least four Swedish princes lost their royal status and right to inherit the thrown because they married the wrong women. Our current queen Silvia is also our first queen since Gunilla Bielke in the 16th century, who hasn't been born a princess. So a crown prince marrying a "common" woman in the 1920s would be a problem.
Princess Louise of Battenberg (or Lady Louise Mountbatten as she became after the German styles and titles were done away with by King George V in 1917) was not a commoner. She just wasn't Royal enough for some of the insufferable snobs of the time.
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His or Her Serene Highness.
Oh I had never heard that expression!

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Princess Louise of Battenberg (or Lady Louise Mountbatten as she became after the German styles and titles were done away with by King George V in 1917) was not a commoner. She just wasn't Royal enough for some of the insufferable snobs of the time.
Of course she was not a commoner. Some were just affraid she was a commoner. And yes, insufferable snobs is a good term.
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Oh I had never heard that expression!
The Grimaldis and Liechtensteiners are Serene Highnesses, as are most of the non-Royal German Princely Families (eg Thurn und Taxis, Sayn-Wittgenstein, Hohenzollern, Fürstenberg, Hohenlohe etc).
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I posted this before, but I find it amusing that alot of the HSH's are wealthier than the Reigning Royals, Liectenstein, Grimaldis, (who are Principalities), Thurn-Taxis, and many other of the German Princely Houses. I often wonder how some of the snobs would had reacted if they lived today?
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Old 04-01-2006, 10:56 AM
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How did Queen Ingrid get along with her step mother, Queen Louise?
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In the beginning the children of Margareta were not so happy with their father remarrying. Later they got on well together
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I posted this before, but I find it amusing that alot of the HSH's are wealthier than the Reigning Royals, Liectenstein, Grimaldis, (who are Principalities), Thurn-Taxis, and many other of the German Princely Houses. I often wonder how some of the snobs would had reacted if they lived today?
Wealth is not the arbiter. Titles, styles and ancestors determine the ranking and status within this caste. Would an aristocratic family rather lose their fortune or their titles?
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http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7244/margareta13fy.jpg Margareth of Connaught (Margareta), the grandmother of our current king Carl XVI Gustaf and and the danish queen Margarethe II.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3...gareta26kx.jpg Crown princess Margareta outside skiing.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/4...gareta36wz.jpg Margareta and her husband Gustav (VI) Adolf with their first-born Gustav Adolf, our current king's father, when he was a baby.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/1862/louise18ts.jpg Gustav (VI) Adolf and Louise Mountbatten at their wedding.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:14 AM
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Interesting thread. Thanks for posting the pictures Furienna.
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An interesting fact about Crown Princess Margareta and her mother-in-law Queen Victoria - they were both first cousins of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany.

Margareta through her father the Duke of Connaught (brother of Wilhelm's mother Vicky, the Empress Friedrich), Victoria through her mother Louise, Grand Duchess of Baden (sister of Wilhelm's father, Kaiser Friedrich III)
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:51 PM
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So were they each other's cousins as well? Well, I knew they both were daughters of prussian princesses...
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Do you mean Margareta? Margareta was a member of the British Royal Family, being the daughter of Queen Victoria's third son, the Duke of Connaught.
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Yes, Margareta was a Brittish princess, but her mother was a German princess, a member of the Prussian royal family, who became the German imperial family. And Margareta's mother-in-law Viktoria's mother was the daughter of a German emperor/Prussian king. I guess Margaretha and Gustav Adolf were at least second cousins.
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